G-sync thread

Edward · Feb 18, 2018

Anyone have the aw3418dw? I've been looking into getting a ultrawide and gsync and Best Buy currently has it on sale for $999 i thought about biting on it. Just wondering if anyone has it and how do they like it. I'm not really interested in a non-ultrawide at the moment and i don't much care for 4k or 200hz since i will never have a PC powerful enough to hit 200fps so i figure i might as well jump in now instead of waiting.

Rickyrozay2o9 · Mar 10, 2018

So I'm thinking about buying an entry level gsync 144hz monitor for around $400-$500. What would you guys suggest?

Deleted member 2533 · Mar 14, 2018

Just got my Dell S2716DG, 27" 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor and it's so fresh :D

It is slightly annoying going from 1080p 60Hz to 1440p and seeing framerates of 70 though, lol. Gonna have to drop some of the more expensive rendering options.

Nome · Mar 14, 2018

Does anyone else get GSync kicking in when using non-gaming applications?
When I use Unity Editor, it kicks in and my screen flickers a bit. Same with Sourcetree.

My GSync is currently set to work on windowed applications, which might be an issue, but I really don't want to give up alt-tabbing seamlessly.

flipswitch · Mar 14, 2018

Couple questions;

Does gsync make your GPU work harder than playing on a regular monitor?

And locking your frame rates to say 60fps, makes your gpu work less?

myzhi · Mar 14, 2018

Nome said:
Does anyone else get GSync kicking in when using non-gaming applications?
When I use Unity Editor, it kicks in and my screen flickers a bit. Same with Sourcetree.

My GSync is currently set to work on windowed applications, which might be an issue, but I really don't want to give up alt-tabbing seamlessly.

Yes, when Gsync enable for in Windows and fullscreen.

Pargon · Mar 14, 2018

Nome said:
Does anyone else get GSync kicking in when using non-gaming applications?
When I use Unity Editor, it kicks in and my screen flickers a bit. Same with Sourcetree.

My GSync is currently set to work on windowed applications, which might be an issue, but I really don't want to give up alt-tabbing seamlessly.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/g-sync-thread.5961/#post-934697

Cookie Dough · Mar 14, 2018

flipswitch said:
Couple questions;

Does gsync make your GPU work harder than playing on a regular monitor?

And locking your frame rates to say 60fps, makes your gpu work less?

G-sync does not make your graphics card work harder. As for locking frame rate, sure, limiting how many frames a game can draw will reduce the overall load on a GPU. These are two very different points though.

Nome · Mar 15, 2018

Pargon said:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/g-sync-thread.5961/#post-934697

You're the best!

ultima786 · Mar 15, 2018

I'm having problems with g-sync and video-playback during Final Fantasy XV. Gameplay works great with g-sync and it makes all the difference. But when a video (like those in cutscenes) plays, I get weird jitter and stutter, which goes away completely when I deactivate g-sync. Anyone have any ideas? I don't think my frame limiter (RTSS) is the problem because I tried it with g-sync off and frame-limited to 57 and the jitter wasn't nearly as bad as when g-sync is on.

- Turned off g-sync and turned on frame limiting to 57 - This stopped the jittery video playback and videos played smoothly (naturally gameplay stutters)
- Kept g-sync on, v-sync on, frame limiting to 57 - causes jittery video playback (gameplay is great!)
- G-sync on, no frame limit - causes jittery video playback
- G-sync on, no frame limit, v-sync off - causes jittery video playback and also terrible screen tearing during videos

Protoman200X · Mar 24, 2018

I got my new monitor in the mail today (this one), but I don't understand why the Nividia Control Panel can't allow me to enable g-sync. It also won't allow me to change the refresh rate, as it's stuck at 60Hz.

Any tips?

TSM · Mar 24, 2018

Blues1990 said:
I got my new monitor in the mail today (this one), but I don't understand why the Nividia Control Panel can't allow me to enable g-sync. It also won't allow me to change the refresh rate, as it's stuck at 60Hz.

Any tips?

You bought the same monitor I have. It's an amazing looking monitor when games are pushing 200+ fps since most of the blur associated with an LCD panel goes away. In the Nvidia control panel there's an option to enable v-sync in windowed mode which you should enable. For your desktop refresh rate: right click desktop -> Screen Resolution -> Advanced Settings -> Monitor Tab -> select 240 hertz from the drop down -> hit apply. For games you can make sure g-sync is the default under the game settings options in the Nvidia control panel.

Knurek · Mar 24, 2018

Blues1990 said:
I got my new monitor in the mail today (this one), but I don't understand why the Nividia Control Panel can't allow me to enable g-sync. It also won't allow me to change the refresh rate, as it's stuck at 60Hz.

Any tips?

Did you connect using HDMI cable? You need to use DisplayPort to have G-Sync.

deejay · Mar 24, 2018

I think gsync is alright. I've had this monitor (still do) for about 2 years now but I haven't noticed anything that made me go wow. I've checked the settings I don't know how many times but the difference with what I've seen before (running everything with vsync on, running on high-end hardware) is hardly, if at all, noticeable for me. It's been an extremely underwhelming experience for me.

ultima786 · Mar 28, 2018

I use g-sync with ffxv. However during video playback such videos play at a weird FPS and seem to slightly stutter. When I turn off gsync the problem goes away. In game nonprerendered cutscenes play fine.

Anyone have any idea why this is happening?

Gtx-1070
i7-7700hq
16 gigs ram
Powespec 1510

Pargon · Mar 28, 2018

ultima786 said:
I use g-sync with ffxv. However during video playback such videos play at a weird FPS and seem to slightly stutter. When I turn off gsync the problem goes away. In game nonprerendered cutscenes play fine.
Anyone have any idea why this is happening?

Some games just don't handle video playback well. It's not always a G-Sync problem (though it sounds like it is in this case) - sometimes it's an issue with unlocked framerates or high refresh rates.

Dezzy · Mar 31, 2018

Well, I bought a Acer Predator XB271HU and tried out a few games and I gotta say 144 fps is pretty amazing. Overwatch and Fortnite were so fluid. Even 2D side-scrollers looked amazing in motion.
And yet I have to return it. :(
I tried the monitor for about an hour, and just in that hour a vertical line cut part of the image down the middle of the screen and showed it on the right edge. Had to turn it off and on again to fix it. Turns out all monitors with this panel have that bug and it requires you to send in it for service for a firmware update. I'm not playing panel lottery though, I've done that before. Guess I'll have to wait for a new line of monitors to come out.

Vipu · Mar 31, 2018

Dezzy said:
Well, I bought a Acer Predator XB271HU and tried out a few games and I gotta say 144 fps is pretty amazing. Overwatch and Fortnite were so fluid. Even 2D side-scrollers looked amazing in motion.
And yet I have to return it. :(
I tried the monitor for about an hour, and just in that hour a vertical line cut part of the image down the middle of the screen and showed it on the right edge. Had to turn it off and on again to fix it. Turns out all monitors with this panel have that bug and it requires you to send in it for service for a firmware update. I'm not playing panel lottery though, I've done that before. Guess I'll have to wait for a new line of monitors to come out.

What? there is lots of monitors to choose from.

Deleted member 4346 · Apr 14, 2018

I got my first GSYNC display- Acer Predator Z321QU. I'm coming from a FreeSync setup with R9-290X and an HP Omen 32, so this is a significant upgrade (1080 Ti and 144Hz GSYNC monitor). The Z321QU is fairly new and I haven't seen any actual reviews yet, snagged the only one at my local Microcenter. It's... ok. 144Hz is good, not a total game-changer, but it's kind of "eh" for a display that cost me a $300 premium over the FreeSync version. Contrast is actually lower than my Omen 32. There's definitely improvements in pixel response time on the newer VA panel, however, it is immediately evident! I'd get nasty trailing @75Hz on my old panel. This one I get some at 144Hz but it's not nearly as bad. No dead pixels, average uniformity. I'm keeping it. I debated the Alienware and Asus 35" IPS panels but they just had too poor of contrast. This panel, for the price, is acceptable.

etta · Apr 14, 2018

So you can't have 4K and 120/144 Hz at the same time?
I don't want to choose..... 4K is kind of necessary nowadays.

CarthOhNoes · Apr 14, 2018

Dezzy said:
Well, I bought a Acer Predator XB271HU and tried out a few games and I gotta say 144 fps is pretty amazing. Overwatch and Fortnite were so fluid. Even 2D side-scrollers looked amazing in motion.
And yet I have to return it. :(
I tried the monitor for about an hour, and just in that hour a vertical line cut part of the image down the middle of the screen and showed it on the right edge. Had to turn it off and on again to fix it. Turns out all monitors with this panel have that bug and it requires you to send in it for service for a firmware update. I'm not playing panel lottery though, I've done that before. Guess I'll have to wait for a new line of monitors to come out.

That's the biggest issue with lots of these "gaming monitors" at the moment. The quality control on the Acer and ASUS ones is pretty dreadful. Light bleed, dead pixels and on the ROG Swifts there's an issue where the power switch simply doesn't turn the thing on - I had to RMA mine in less than a year due to the power button no longer turning it on - I had to unplug it and replug it in to make it turn on and even that was unreliable. Pretty bad considering the massive price premium paid on monitors currently.

Bony Manifesto · Apr 14, 2018

etta said:
So you can't have 4K and 120/144 Hz at the same time?
I don't want to choose..... 4K is kind of necessary nowadays.

Well, it's kind of irrelvant right now anyway, as even a top-end GPU struggles to hit 60fps in modern games in 4K, let alone higher.

etta · Apr 14, 2018

Bony Manifesto said:
Well, it's kind of irrelvant right now anyway, as even a top-end GPU struggles to hit 60fps in modern games in 4K, let alone higher.

Yea of course but if you drop >$1,000 on a monitor, you'd want it to last. I have a 1080 Ti right now but I might get the 2080 Ti when it's out, so I wanted a base to be 4K/60 now, but to increase framerate as I get new GPUs.

I'm bummed out, if I go for 4K now then I have to get a 60 Hz one, there's not much point to Gsync at 60fps is there, outside of eliminating tear. And when I get a new GPU there won't be much improvement, aside from running the newest games at 60fps.

I tried 1440p on my 4K X900E and it still doesn't look clean enough, that's why I'm so focused on getting a 4K Gsync monitor.

petran79 · Apr 14, 2018

Bony Manifesto said:
Well, it's kind of irrelvant right now anyway, as even a top-end GPU struggles to hit 60fps in modern games in 4K, let alone higher.

Even 3440x1440 can be demanding for some games

etta · Apr 14, 2018

Wait what's this, the PG27UQ with 4K HDR and 144Hz Gsync.... revealed last year at CES? But it's not out still??
This seems exactly like what I want lols, what's the price.

Isee · Apr 14, 2018

etta said:
Wait what's this, the PG27UQ with 4K HDR and 144Hz Gsync.... revealed last year at CES? But it's not out still??
This seems exactly like what I want lols, what's the price.

Available for preorder in europe. Will be available in the next couuple of weeks. Starts around 2500€.
The similar ACER model is about 3000€.

etta · Apr 14, 2018

Isee said:
Available for preorder in europe. Will be available in the next couuple of weeks. Starts around 2500€.
The similar ACER model is about 3000€.

Hmmmm, but that's an insane price. Either way it's probably best to wait, I can just use my X900E for 4K in the meantime. But if I'm gonna drop so much money on a Gsync monitor, I'd rather it have both 4K and 120/144 Hz.
Unless I can get a good 4K/60 one for ~$500.

Compsiox · Apr 14, 2018

I can't remember what it's like to not have G-Sync. It's been years now. It's definitely the way to go though.

Isee · Apr 14, 2018

etta said:
Hmmmm, but that's an insane price. Either way it's probably best to wait, I can just use my X900E for 4K in the meantime. But if I'm gonna drop so much money on a Gsync monitor, I'd rather it have both 4K and 120/144 Hz.
Unless I can get a good 4K/60 one for ~$500.

There are some 4k/60 gsync displays without HDR out there.

Yeah, the price is too high, even for many early adopters that are willing to pay premium prices. The thing is (afaik) this isn't just normal static TV HDR10 but an improved dynamic version (supposedly even better then Dolby Vision). At least according to Nvidia PR. They still have problems with display manufacturing though and supply is supposed to be rare this year. They also ran into problems with the new Gsync module (they started to run very hot).

I was waiting for the 35", 3440x1440,200Hz variant but that has been postponed. Looking at the 27" UHD price… It won't be affordable anyway (for me), so whatever.

Deleted member 4346 · Apr 14, 2018

CarthOhNoes said:
That's the biggest issue with lots of these "gaming monitors" at the moment. The quality control on the Acer and ASUS ones is pretty dreadful. Light bleed, dead pixels and on the ROG Swifts there's an issue where the power switch simply doesn't turn the thing on - I had to RMA mine in less than a year due to the power button no longer turning it on - I had to unplug it and replug it in to make it turn on and even that was unreliable. Pretty bad considering the massive price premium paid on monitors currently.

I've never seen an ASUS or Acer one that didn't have light bleed. For the price that's crazy. The demo Alienware 35" that I saw looked very uniform, and it was cheaper than the ROG Swift, but again- IPS panels aren't something I'm interested in. The Acer I got is, AFAIK, the first 32" 144Hz VA-based GSYNC monitor. I think LG has one as well based off of the same panel?

etta said:
So you can't have 4K and 120/144 Hz at the same time?
I don't want to choose..... 4K is kind of necessary nowadays.

Yeah, the GSYNC market flat-out sucks. You can't have 4K/144Hz. There are extremely limited 32-35" options. There's no GSYNC HDR displays on the market yet, and the ones that have been delayed and delayed are coming with a massive price premium- like $3k. I saw that this week and said "fuck that", researched and bought something else instead.

inner-G · Apr 17, 2018

I have the ASUS which uses this same panel, but this Acer Predator has a 1440p/144-165hz IPS panel and is on sale for $549 if anyone in in the market for one: https://slickdeals.net/f/11489191-2...144hz-g-sync-ips-monitor-549-99-free-shipping

Kaelan · Apr 22, 2018

How good is this g-sync monitor? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0149QBOF0?tag=viglink20241-20 Building a PC and was thinking of getting it. I don't have enough to spend on the higher gsync ones but yeah

Nokterian · Apr 22, 2018

Chacranajxy said:
So, there's a fix for the stutter problem that I found on the nvidia forum a few days ago. You have to disable DiagTrack. Go to MSConfig / Services, and uncheck the box that says "Connected User Experiences and Telemetry". Seems like one of those "fixes" that wouldn't change a damn thing, but I tried it, and immediately, everything was fixed. Borderless fullscreen no longer presents any sort of problem, g-sync works, and we can all sing Khumbaya around a fucking campfire.

Seriously, try it if you've been having issues.

I'm trying to find this but does it have a different name or something?

Edit : never mind i found it!

And well goddamn it does improve a lot and mostly in WoW.

Chicken Wing · Apr 22, 2018

So...um...what is gsync?

etta · May 9, 2018

So what's the best 1440p/120Hz G-sync to get?
IPS or VA?

OmniStrife · May 9, 2018

etta said:
So what's the best 1440p/120Hz G-sync to get?
IPS or VA?

That's the one I got, I love it! It's also amazingly priced (this is CAD btw)
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0173PEX20/

Deleted member 4346 · May 9, 2018

etta said:
So what's the best 1440p/120Hz G-sync to get?
IPS or VA?

What's your focus, pixel response or visual quality? My VA-based Acer Predator Z321QU has been good now for the past month of ownership, but it can't always hit the pixel response time required for 144Hz, so there's a bit of trailing. IPS panels do better at that but have much worse contrast. I strongly prefer VA and I'd never buy another IPS monitor, personally, but if your primary concern is fast gaming I can see why IPS monitors continue to sell.

louris · May 9, 2018

Is there a reason all VA panels are curved? There are no flat VAs at all, in my country at least.

Spitz · May 9, 2018

louris said:
Is there a reason all VA panels are curved? There are no flat VAs at all, in my country at least.

Not all a curved i have this one and i love it. http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-32GK850G-B-gaming-monitor

etta · May 9, 2018

OmniStrife said:
That's the one I got, I love it! It's also amazingly priced (this is CAD btw)
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0173PEX20/

Ya i'm in Canada as well, that's good.

Apharmd said:
What's your focus, pixel response or visual quality? My VA-based Acer Predator Z321QU has been good now for the past month of ownership, but it can't always hit the pixel response time required for 144Hz, so there's a bit of trailing. IPS panels do better at that but have much worse contrast. I strongly prefer VA and I'd never buy another IPS monitor, personally, but if your primary concern is fast gaming I can see why IPS monitors continue to sell.

Well visual quality unless this pixel response which I haven't even heard of before gets too bad?
I have an LG IPS 1080p monitor now, the blacks still aren't all that black anyway so... I just don't want TN, that shit's horrible.

Slackbladder · May 10, 2018

I recently got the Asus PG348Q Ultrawide 3440x1440 100hz g-sync monitor. It has an IPS panel and yes, blacks could be better. That said I've noticed no smearing what-so-ever. Ony issue I have is two sources of light bleed on top left and right (where the monitor goes beyond 16:9 tellingly) and the fact that with a HDMI plugged in (but the TV it's connected to off) if I go above 75hz the desktop is changed as if it's set to a multi monitor display. Probably an issue with the different connections (one DP for monitor anf the other a HDMI to my OLED tv). Still, playing games at 100fps like Forza 7 (though Forza 7 has a bug where the fps will drop to 48fps say, randomly and is only fixed by pausing then unpausing the game) and Destiny 2 is a real eye opener fpr someone used to 60fps before.

ArrogantBastard · May 16, 2018

Dell S2716DGR, 27 inch, 144hz, gsync, TN panel. I snagged one for 350 at best buy, basically curious if I'm going to wish I went with IPS. Some people are saying this monitor is trash and I would be better served getting IPS 144hz even if it meant losing gsync. I cannot justify dropping 600+ on a monitor really.

Any input.

RandomExpletive · May 16, 2018

ArrogantBastard said:
Dell S2716DGR, 27 inch, 144hz, gsync, TN panel. I snagged one for 350 at best buy, basically curious if I'm going to wish I went with IPS. Some people are saying this monitor is trash and I would be better served getting IPS 144hz even if it meant losing gsync. I cannot justify dropping 600+ on a monitor really.

Any input.

Have it, use it daily, its great. No IPS, but for what it offers 350 is a great price

Just make sure you're getting an A05 or above, lower ones have banding issues (A07 and up is ideal)

ArrogantBastard · May 16, 2018

RandomExpletive said:
Have it, use it daily, its great. No IPS, but for what it offers 350 is a great price

Just make sure you're getting an A05 or above, lower ones have banding issues (A07 and up is ideal)

It's an A09 unit, just picked it up, damn the box is huge.

I also want to pick up a 2nd monitor to mount with it, 1440p doesn't need Gsync.

RandomExpletive · May 16, 2018

ArrogantBastard said:
It's an A09 unit, just picked it up, damn the box is huge.

Don't forget to actually enable Gsync and set the RR to 144, some people miss that

Oh and calibration, obviously

Deleted member 1813 · May 16, 2018

Dezzy said:
Well, I bought a Acer Predator XB271HU and tried out a few games and I gotta say 144 fps is pretty amazing. Overwatch and Fortnite were so fluid. Even 2D side-scrollers looked amazing in motion.
And yet I have to return it. :(
I tried the monitor for about an hour, and just in that hour a vertical line cut part of the image down the middle of the screen and showed it on the right edge. Had to turn it off and on again to fix it. Turns out all monitors with this panel have that bug and it requires you to send in it for service for a firmware update. I'm not playing panel lottery though, I've done that before. Guess I'll have to wait for a new line of monitors to come out.

I realize I'm months late on this, but for anyone else that is curious: this is fixed by overclocking the monitor to 165hz. I've had zero issues after doing it.

To further address the point, this firmware defect was supposedly fixed in late 2016/2017 but the issue has seemingly cropped up and become widespread again over the last 3-4 months, so either something is broken at the driver level OR something may have gone wrong at the manufacturing level with the more recent batches. For reference, my monitor was manufactured in February of this year.

ArrogantBastard · May 16, 2018

Jesus, this thing is HUGE. Went from 22 to 27inch. After calibration I really don't have any issue with the color representation at all. Exceptionally happy atm. Its sold out now, $350 was a great deal I think.

dmoe · May 16, 2018

ArrogantBastard said:
Dell S2716DGR, 27 inch, 144hz, gsync, TN panel. I snagged one for 350 at best buy, basically curious if I'm going to wish I went with IPS. Some people are saying this monitor is trash and I would be better served getting IPS 144hz even if it meant losing gsync. I cannot justify dropping 600+ on a monitor really.

Any input.

Once you calibrate it, it's wonderful. I have it next to an IPs and I'll take the 350 gsync over some stupid 700 ips

ArrogantBastard · May 16, 2018

dmoe said:
Once you calibrate it, it's wonderful. I have it next to an IPs and I'll take the 350 gsync over some stupid 700 ips

I'll only note one thing and that is I guess color banding (hell this is something that I never once paid attention to). I only notice now that people have pointed it out.

Note this is imgur and w/e, but it is greatly exaggerating the effect.

The banding completely disappears if I move back about one foot from where I normally sit. Is this even color banding? Someone have a different monitor care to load up the bnet launcher?

Vipu · May 17, 2018

ArrogantBastard said:
I'll only note one thing and that is I guess color banding (hell this is something that I never once paid attention to). I only notice now that people have pointed it out.

Note this is imgur and w/e, but it is greatly exaggerating the effect.

The banding completely disappears if I move back about one foot from where I normally sit. Is this even color banding? Someone have a different monitor care to load up the bnet launcher?

I cant see banding on that even with my shitty work monitor.

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