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iPhone X | OT | Hello Future | November 3
- Thread starter wachie
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That's a shame. Having an app that always feels like it's running in the background adds a lot to the user experience and QoL.
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I honestly didn't know about this.
In fact, I don't even force quit my unused apps that often because I'm that lazy but I always had the impression closing them was good for the phone's memory (and battery for that matter)
Thanks for the info.
The only time I ever force quit is when an app is fucking up and freezing. i assume that's what apple intended.
I've had a lot of apps crash on my X that I've had to force quit and it's a pain. I don't understand the need to long hold it to bring up the red X. Why not let us just swipe the cards up? Why make that go back to home but on the lock screen force us to only swipe from the bar?
Congrats!!!
Yeah. It's best to not think about all those apps as "running" (because generally they're not), think of it as a list of apps you've recently used
I see everyone do it, drives me up a wall. And then I'll let them know that it's doing more harm than good and they'll go "oh okay thanks" and keep on closing
That's not really true, hasn't been for a long time. It's butt simple to make any app save its state when you go Home, and restore its state when you open it - it's a single flag you set. The other state of the flag is to force reload every time your app starts. Now, there is a chance that the iPhone will eventually decide to completely end your app, if the storage and RAM it has allocated for the saved-state gets full, and if you'd like your app to continue in *that* state, then yes, as a developer you have to save/restore your state manually. But if a developer doesn't want to do that they can still get the normal state saving without any additional work, and the state will only be lost if the user doesn't use that app in a while.
So if an app always fully restarts whenever you open it, that is very much a choice the developer made, or a bug (for example, if an app crashes as you go to the Home screen, it will restart when you next launch it).
Um yes, this is what I meant. I'm not talking about normal backgrounding where the app remains resident in memory, I'm talking about when it gets shut down (which can happen quite quickly if the system is already RAM-starved). From a user's perspective, you should never have to know when that happens. The app should look like you left it no matter what state iOS has put it in. But for the developer this can be a lot of work, and the more complicated the app is, the harder it is to recover from every state the user might've left it in.
That rarely happens, because those saved states aren't just in RAM, they are also on storage. RAM can fill up and the oldest ones in RAM will go away but the ones in storage will still be there. You should rarely see any app that you normally use fully reload, that only happens when the storage allocated for it also gets full.
Man thats crazy. I've been force closing apps for as long as its been an option to do it on iPhones. It's going to take a while to break the habit, but luckily the annoyance of the extra step on the X to force quit apps will actually help me stop doing it lol
Agreed. Been on dat Apple Maps train for a while. Fantastic app. Really underscores the importance of a good first impression.
I seem to use Apple Maps a lot now just for the fact that integrates with the watch so well. When I am in a city I am not familiar with, and I have a rental car, I can input the destination into my phone and start driving having never to look at my phone because my watch will vibrate when its time for me to make a left or right...
Just something else to hate on Apple, I guess.
No reason to download separate apps when there's a perfectly capable one built in.
Do you guys think AppleCare is worthwhile for this phone? I'm still torn on it since it's so expensive.
I got this one from Amazon last week; not sure why it's unavailable now (maybe just sold out). Works great so far; was $17.99 when I bought it.
I got this one from Amazon last week; not sure why it's unavailable now (maybe just sold out). Works great so far; was $17.99 when I bought it.
You didnt link to anything on amazon...
Also, Applecare is essential for a phone like this... do not sit on this decision... just go get it.
The Belkin one sucks, super expensive and so big that it's too easy to miss the charging sweet spot and end up with a dead phone in the morning.
Bought two Anker ones that have been fantastic and are like half the price
I only have Google Maps on my phone for the street view functionality. Can be helpful for familiarizing yourself with the destination before you get there. I've seen Apple Maps vehicles on the streets taking street view imagery, so hopefully Apple Maps will be adding that function in the near future.
Since I already own multiple four port USB-A Anker chargers that charge everything fast enough for me to consider it "super fast", I'm not going to bother with wireless charging nor "USB-C Fast Charging" until Apple delivers their "air power" pad that can charge the iPhone, the Watch and the AirPods all at the same time, and then, assuming reviews are good and it's not unbelievably expensive, I'm going to get one of those for my nightstand because not having to plug anything in at night nor fiddle with the exact angle and placement of the watch will rule. Getting a pad for just one device at a time doesn't seem worth it.
Which anker one did you get? Can you link me to their product page?
Google Maps also has better traffic info and ETAs but maybe I need more experience with Apple Maps.
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Also, does anyone with the clear Spigen case have updated impressions?
did anyone else buy the Silk Red grip case from Amazon? It was $6...
well, on Friday it arrived, and it was the iPhone 8 version. I put in a request for an exchange, pointing out that they had sent SLK-BG8-RED instead of SLK-BGX-RED...
They fast tracked a replacement that arrived today. Guess what? Again, they sent me SLK-BG8-RED.
My guess is that every single one of these in one shipment got misfiled and possibly thousands of these ended up shipping out. Yikes.
well, on Friday it arrived, and it was the iPhone 8 version. I put in a request for an exchange, pointing out that they had sent SLK-BG8-RED instead of SLK-BGX-RED...
They fast tracked a replacement that arrived today. Guess what? Again, they sent me SLK-BG8-RED.
My guess is that every single one of these in one shipment got misfiled and possibly thousands of these ended up shipping out. Yikes.
I got this $30 Pasanomi charger for topping up at work, because I wanted a stand-up charger with a wooden exterior. And it's great! At home I just plug the phone in, because I have a 29 watt fast-charger for my iPad Pro I can use there.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IOZOR92/?tag=era0f0-20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IOZOR92/?tag=era0f0-20
If that was true, then Discord -- which didn't implement State Restoration -- would not be restarting from scratch all the time. Apps that are punted from RAM don't retain their state automatically. This is why the State Restoration API exists. If developers implement it, apps that return from being terminated will look no different than being backgrounded in RAM. They're responsible for the state of the views, reloading all the data, etc. It isn't just flipping a switch in most cases. If the dev didn't, the app has to start from the initial view again.
From Apple:
Discord doesn't restart from scratch all the time. Not for me anyways, and I use Discord as my primary chat program so I use it a lot. Now, since iOS 11 came out it has been restarting fairly frequently (but not all the time), I figured that was a bug because it wasn't doing that before.
there are plenty of times I need to restart an app and closing it is the only way to do that. Debating the appropriateness of closing apps is missing the point regardless. The option remains to do it, so making it more cumbersome doesn't accomplish anything other than annoying the user. People aren't going to stop closing apps because they have to hold the card first. And if they were that worried about discouraging it, they wouldn't have made all the changes they implemented to make it easier over the years
oh I don't think Apple is trying to discourage them from doing it with this iPhone X change. It's just an oversight
Thanks for all the YouTube battery drain replies. I'm going to turn off background data for it. Ridiculous. I didn't have this issue on my 7 Plus, although... YouTube always was the highest on the battery list.
I googled a place´s address and didn´t realize it opened in the google app. It was really frustrating it wasn´t giving me a heads up on stuff like this. lol
I'm stuck on Nov 21-28 from my 3am preorder maaaan it's tough to wait
Face Id doesn't work when I'm in the middle of drinking a beer.
What is even the point of this feature.
What is even the point of this feature.
omg im in love with this phone. ive always had iphones... mainly to jailbreak. but this beast is amazing and i dont feel too bad losing jailbreak from my iphone 6 with all the features these days.
and i effing love this camera!! im not a photographer by any means (i stick to drawing portraits instead) but this thing has me feeling like a pro. picturss of my daughter just increased tenfold lol.
and i effing love this camera!! im not a photographer by any means (i stick to drawing portraits instead) but this thing has me feeling like a pro. picturss of my daughter just increased tenfold lol.
If they just put the battery percentage inside the battery icon instead of showing the progress bar, I'd take that in a second.