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Jessica Jones | Season 2 on Netflix | 3/8/18 (Spoiler-free discussion)
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I thought Season 1 was OK (mainly because of Killgrave) but looking online I see so many people calling this the best Netflix Marvel show...I disagree...I thought both seasons of Daredevil were way better...even though Krysten Ritter does a good job I find most of the secondary characters to be under-developed and boring...I'm in no hurry to watch Season 2...looking forward to Lost in Space much more
Really Trish, you're gonna give that dude drugs?
I thought it was weird how episode 6 or maybe seven lined HEAVY on the noir stuff with all the jazz music and the hardboiled voice overs from Jessica. This show needs to be that for for all the episodes.
The episodes post the mom reveals have been MUCH better than the ones leading up to it. They really did a piss poor job at building up the villains in the first 6 or so episodes. I especially didn't really care about Jessica's mission to bring down those dudes or her continued insistent that what they did to her was horrible when they just saved her life and the only side effects is that she has superhuman strength. Big whoop, Jessica.
I thought it was weird how episode 6 or maybe seven lined HEAVY on the noir stuff with all the jazz music and the hardboiled voice overs from Jessica. This show needs to be that for for all the episodes.
The episodes post the mom reveals have been MUCH better than the ones leading up to it. They really did a piss poor job at building up the villains in the first 6 or so episodes. I especially didn't really care about Jessica's mission to bring down those dudes or her continued insistent that what they did to her was horrible when they just saved her life and the only side effects is that she has superhuman strength. Big whoop, Jessica.
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Pryce Cheng's whole storyline is so thrown together. He's only in the show because he wants to buy out Jessica since he's stealing his clients, even though he's in the best law firm in the city and Jessica barely takes clients and the ones she does are small fries. It makes no sense for him to go after her so goddamn hard, dude is literally making bank off his rich clients and shit he's over here bending over backwards to fuck over Jessica.
And now in episode 9 he's over here trying to kill Jessica's mom like he's Harvey Lee Oswald.
So far this season feels like it could've been severely trimmed down by just removing Trish and Cheng's whole storyline. They've added nothing but annoyance and uninteresting story developments.
And now in episode 9 he's over here trying to kill Jessica's mom like he's Harvey Lee Oswald.
So far this season feels like it could've been severely trimmed down by just removing Trish and Cheng's whole storyline. They've added nothing but annoyance and uninteresting story developments.
Isn't that Jeph Loeb's job?
On episode 6 at the moment. Krysten Ritter is doing a great job as JJ. I'm really interested in seeing where they're taking Trish's character but from the replies here it sounds bad.
Finished the season, the later half was much better than the first which genuinely was pretty bad. This is always said but this season is even more proof that these shows need to stop being 13 episodes.
Anything not dealing directly to Jessica and were mom were just not interesting and felt like filler to pad out time.
Trish's boyfriend at the start, her addiction and then attempts to become superpowered were boring and it soured Trish for me. It became annoying when she showed up. The super, lawyer's ASL, Jessica's mom's crazy cop, Pryce and pretty much all other subplots, were uninteresting. This whole season would've been way more interesting if it didn't take 7 episodes for the mom twist and had completely focused on that.
Trish's boyfriend at the start, her addiction and then attempts to become superpowered were boring and it soured Trish for me. It became annoying when she showed up. The super, lawyer's ASL, Jessica's mom's crazy cop, Pryce and pretty much all other subplots, were uninteresting. This whole season would've been way more interesting if it didn't take 7 episodes for the mom twist and had completely focused on that.
It was not necessarily someone else's face, it's was because her face burned off and grew back differently with some plastic surgery.
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Facial reconstruction surgery with what they had available to work with? Yeah, I didn't really think about that after they kinda talked about it. If she was given the ability to heal, woudln't her face come back to normal after some time?
Season 1 is favorite Marvel Netflix series. This season is at the bottom. Everything was just clumsy and disjointed compared to the tightly written first season. The biggest problem being everyone was so disconnected and just caricatures of their first season selves.
i thought it was stated that the genetic therapy "changed" her and as a result her face came back different too?
gets super powers without any negative side effects that are permanent I'm going to lose my shit. What an awful moral that you can manipulate, lie, and basically act as garbage as you want and you get to become a super hero.
She keeps spouting nonsense about how she wants powers to help people, when in reality she wants powers because she has a pathetic life and doesn't really matter to the world like she wishes she would. If there was anyone on these shows that didn't deserve powers it is her.
She keeps spouting nonsense about how she wants powers to help people, when in reality she wants powers because she has a pathetic life and doesn't really matter to the world like she wishes she would. If there was anyone on these shows that didn't deserve powers it is her.
Do either Griffin and/or the superintendent go away?? Like, I'm going to need them to have dramatically reduced screen time in order to for me to get through the rest of this unscathed. Or, can I skip their parts without doing to much harm to the overall narrative??
Okay thanks. At least I have that to look forward to. I was having fucking Wonder Woman vibes again, where they tart up my shit with a bunch of fucking bland ass dudes.
Yeah, the super, aka Papi Chulo, aka Papitos, really grew on me. I couldn't stand him at first, but he's one of the nicest guys on parole you'll ever meet.
I was dying to watch this when it premiered but a coworker who has watched all of the Marvel Netflix stuff (the only person I know irl who like me has seen it all) knew we were scheduled to work overnight together this weekend and begged me to hold off so we'd have something to watch while at work. We blew through four episodes yesterday morning and the rest between our 6pm-6am shift that just ended and the consensus from both of us was "Yikes."
Both of us really liked JJ S1 and ranked it at or near the top of the Marvel Netflix universe but this season just wound up being so bad at the end. I thought it started off pretty strong, got kind of boring midway through, and had a horrible end. When the villain is revealed to be
is where I thought things started getting boring/bad. I didn't mind Trish in season one but her decisions and reasonings were garbage in this and I found myself hating her. I found myself liking Hogarth a lot more this season than in season one, despite her storyline/ALS-stuff not really having much to do with anything and feeling like a useless addition (it felt like she could have had any one of a number of grievances with her partners that could have kicked off her storyline in episode one and the outcome in episode 13 would have been the same).
I said I really liked Jessica Jones season one but I'll admit she made some dumb decisions in the second half of that season. Luckily she wasn't constantly fucking up this season like she did with Kilgrave (Trish was making enough stupid decisions for the both of them this go-around) but the last few episodes had me rolling my eyes as she began slipping into her old ways. At the end there I was like
Oh well though.
dying, as early as it happened too, was bullshit. Needed to establish how bad the big bad was going to be though, I suppose. The appearance of
was nice but I was hoping he'd be a bit more prominent and maybe even turn out to be alive; all I knew prior to the season was that he was doing some scenes during filming. I guessed months ago it would turn out to be how he was shown in the show, but I was hoping for more.
I'm not sure what my current rankings are but I'd put this maybe tied with Luke Cage in the middle of the pack. I liked Jessica for most of the season, Malcom was a boss, and I thought Hogarth was better, but Trish was infuriating and awful and the villain was boring and awful.
Both of us really liked JJ S1 and ranked it at or near the top of the Marvel Netflix universe but this season just wound up being so bad at the end. I thought it started off pretty strong, got kind of boring midway through, and had a horrible end. When the villain is revealed to be
Jessica's mother
I said I really liked Jessica Jones season one but I'll admit she made some dumb decisions in the second half of that season. Luckily she wasn't constantly fucking up this season like she did with Kilgrave (Trish was making enough stupid decisions for the both of them this go-around) but the last few episodes had me rolling my eyes as she began slipping into her old ways. At the end there I was like
"Really, Jessica? Running off with your mom to Canada after she killed a cop and tried to kill your friend/sister seems like a good choice to you???"
Nuke
Kilgrave
I'm not sure what my current rankings are but I'd put this maybe tied with Luke Cage in the middle of the pack. I liked Jessica for most of the season, Malcom was a boss, and I thought Hogarth was better, but Trish was infuriating and awful and the villain was boring and awful.
Thought it was... meh. I think what irked me about this season was that, for a series about Jessica Jones, they divy up the screen time with characters NOT AS important as the title character. JJ should get the lion's share, but in this season, it's almost like they are saying Trish, Malcolm and Hogarth are AS important as JJ ... in a show LITERALLY called "Jessica Jones"! Most of everybody's other side-stories, while connecting, seemed to be expanded in length for the means of padding it out for 13 episodes. My ideal version of how this season should've went down is, trim the fat of the majority of the episodes so that the first couple or so episodes focus on other cases not related to
, but show Jessica breaking down through these episodes little by little. Introduce
. Cut Trish+Malcolm's scenes down to 60-75% of what they were in the season, and cut Hogarth's scenes down by 50%, focus MORE on Jessica.
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Cheng here, but as soon as they are ready to change the narrative to the main plot of the season, he disappears (until the end, where Malcolm joins him).
Well they pretty much beat you over the head with the notion that Jessica is not a superhero.
It's ok
Trish should become Hellcat next season, hopefully it will become more of a superhero show then.
I just finished this and I can't get over how dumb I find Trish's character. I still find jj a great and fascinating character. I wish the next season would drop some side characters like the lawyer, Trish and focus more on Jessica solving cases. Still over all like it a lot. Still better than the Defenders which isn't saying much.
Hogarth directed Pryce to try to hire Jessica in an effort to make amends for her past actions. The stealing clients thing was just a cover.
I get that, but the first season felt like a superhero show and that's what most people come in expecting.
Finally finished it. Intensely stupid, good god. I don't even find myself to be that harsh a critic when it comes to shows like that but man. I'll skim the next season.
OK, I've changed my mind and I greatly regret my earlier comment comparing the first couple of episodes to Iron Fist in terms of awfulness. Episode 7 got me hooked in for the rest of the season, even though I still don't find it to be on the level of season 1. And those first few episodes were still a chore to get through. And I'm seeing the themes finally emerge thanks to episode 7.
the past catching up to you now that Trish is an addict again and Jessica finds out about her mom killing Sterling.
I don't buy that Trish/Malcolm hookup though. Seems like it came out of nowhere.
This will be your mantra for the rest of the season: Trish be crazy
And just when I thought I got that awful "cray-cray" song out of my head......
Lmao, I'm sorry.
Damn it, now I'm upset that I didn't say "Trish be cray cray"
Themes of the overall season were really good. What brings it down is that it is not there from the start, and then characters are changed, and start to behave different halfway in order to fit the mold of the new themes.
For the most part, none of what they did surprised me.