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Revolsin

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Oct 27, 2017
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It'll be pretty interesting if Switch actually takes this month.

Tax returns should provide a notable boost for PS4 and X1, and Switch has had nothing in particular going on for Jan or Feb, so it would have to be doing pretty well on its own strength now. Beating Xbox especially would be impressive here considering the lower price point.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It'll be pretty interesting if Switch actually takes this month.

Tax returns should provide a notable boost for PS4 and X1, and Switch has had nothing in particular going on for Jan or Feb, so it would have to be doing pretty well on its own strength now. Beating Xbox especially would be impressive here considering the lower price point.

Is there a particular reason I'm missing as to why tax returns are only applicable to the PS4/XB1 and not the Switch?

The Switch is still a sought after item.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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It'll be pretty interesting if Switch actually takes this month.

Tax returns should provide a notable boost for PS4 and X1, and Switch has had nothing in particular going on for Jan or Feb, so it would have to be doing pretty well on its own strength now. Beating Xbox especially would be impressive here considering the lower price point.
What reason is there that PS4 and XB1 would benefit more from this than the Switch? XB1 might get a noticeable bump because it had a discount, but PS4 and Switch are at their regular price, so I wouldn't see why one would benefit more than the other.
 

Pooroomoo

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Oct 28, 2017
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What reason is there that PS4 and XB1 would benefit more from this than the Switch? XB1 might get a noticeable bump because it had a discount, but PS4 and Switch are at their regular price, so I wouldn't see why one would benefit more than the other.
I think the reasoning is that it used to be that Nintendo consoles were often bought more "for the family" (or that was at least the explanation why PS and XB did better when there were tax returns). I don't know if this reasoning was actually correct, but even if it was, I think it is no longer necessarily the case with the Switch.
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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So about Game Pass, there is no way that the NPD could know how many are downloading a newly launched game right? You think MS will count every subscriber/game download as a sale?
 

Soony Xbone Uhh

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Oct 27, 2017
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So about Game Pass, there is no way that the NPD could know how many are downloading a newly launched game right? You think MS will count every subscriber/game download as a sale?
No they don't, but we have this metric player, that covers that.
Game Pass will be like digital.
Complementary and growing the pie to some extend and slowly increase over the years. So maybe 10% of players are Game Pass subscriber now and 30% in 2 years.

You get the pictures.


The NPD group is trying to get digital spend beyond just game sales. So MTX and DLC stuff, too. I assume this would not include subscription revenue, as you can't know what games the customer plays and downloads and how much you attribute to a specific game of that revenue. (Similar to hard bundle game copies) But additional spend on those games would be at least covered.

NPD is still fine.
 

Deleted member 2785

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Oct 25, 2017
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So about Game Pass, there is no way that the NPD could know how many are downloading a newly launched game right? You think MS will count every subscriber/game download as a sale?

We track spending on the subscription via our consumer panel, but no we do not track or report on game pass downloads.

Both Microsoft and the publisher of the game downloaded can do so, however.
 

patapon

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Dec 7, 2017
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I feel like every time I posted in the NPD thread I have to explain where this is from.. :| the actual source is NPD but I got them from a different channel..

Yes, PS4 was the top..but that doesn't mean the others are doing poorly.. Switch hardware sales are also progressing in line with Nintendo's guidance and sales of Nintendo software, especially its own major titles, appear to be favorable.

Thank you for sharing bro.
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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Well, that's interesting, was expecting Xbox to be over PS4 at least due to the promotion going on.
 

Wise

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like every time I posted in the NPD thread I have to explain where this is from.. :| the actual source is NPD but I got them from a different channel..

Yes, PS4 was the top..but that doesn't mean the others were doing poorly.. Switch hardware sales are also progressing in line with Nintendo's guidance and sales of Nintendo software, especially its own major titles, appear to be favorable.
That's fine. Just wondering. Thanks for the clarification
 

Mory Dunz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow at MH too.

wait, Odyssey and MK8D hopped over

  1. Dragon Ball: Fighterz
  2. Call of Duty: WWII
  3. PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds*
  4. Grand Theft Auto V
  5. NBA 2K18
with no digital sales? (fighterz not surprising of course)
wow to that too.


edit:
NVM, top SKUs. My bad.
 

Kaveri

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Oct 28, 2017
343
Wow, was I dead wrong. I thought the switch would end up on top and xbox edging out more sales than PS4 due to the promotion..
 

Mpl90

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Oct 25, 2017
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If Switch, while being 3rd, is still "in line with Nintendo's guidance" according to MagicPork, it probably means this month sales were quite high overall.
 

Mory Dunz

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Oct 25, 2017
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If Switch, while being 3rd, is still "in line with Nintendo's guidance" according to MagicPork, it probably means this month sales were quite high overall.
Seems possible.
did anything happen for ps4 this month? Or just MHW pushing HW.

Cause 30% seems a lot. If Switch did like 230k, ps4 would be 300k
 

Wise

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Oct 27, 2017
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Seems possible.
did anything happen for ps4 this month? Or just MHW pushing HW.

Cause 30% seems a lot. If Switch did like 230k, ps4 would be 300k
PS4 got Shadow of the Colossus and Dynasty warriors last month but I'm pretty sure those games wouldn't be moving a lot of consoles.

So honestly I'm really not sure myself. I'm really surprised at the results haha.
 

Mory Dunz

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Oct 25, 2017
36,370
PS4 got Shadow of the Colossus and Dynasty warriors last month but I'm pretty sure those games wouldn't be moving a lot of consoles.

So honestly I'm really not sure myself. I'm really surprised at the results haha.
guess we'll see how SOTC did.

but dang, huge for PS4

Thanks :)

I don't know what that means
standard....I forgot the acronym lol

but it's each individual platform of the game.
For intance, Instead of GTAV, it'd be:
GTAV (PS4)
GTAV (Xbox 1), etc. So it's not combined.

Not combined Switch exclusives rank higher in revenue. If it were an individual SKU chart.
But combined GTAV as a whole might be higher.
 

Quintus

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think its because of Fortnite, previously Xbox was showing better then expected performance due to PUBG exclusivity as well.
 

Peek-a-boo!

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Oct 30, 2017
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I was dead wrong with my predictions!

I am honestly amazed that despite the fact that the Xbox One S had a two week $50 drop across all of their bundles ($229 and $279 respectively), they still couldn't go toe to toe with the PlayStation 4 at $299.

And the PS4 version of Monster Hunter: World at the top whilst the Xbox One version is below two year-old Switch games slightly boggles the mind.

Despite barely coming second and being the cheapest console by a significant margin, especially during the tax returns, I just cannot see what they can do from here on out, now that they are back to price parity with both the PlayStation 4 and Switch...

Interesting Times Ahead™
 

Geoff

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ah gotcha. Thanks both. Should have been able to work that out.

Still...that's still really surprising isn't it? Like REALLY surprising?
 

Jade1962

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Oct 28, 2017
4,259
Wow at MH too.

wait, Odyssey and MK8D hopped over

  1. Dragon Ball: Fighterz
  2. Call of Duty: WWII
  3. PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds*
  4. Grand Theft Auto V
  5. NBA 2K18
with no digital sales? (fighterz not surprising of course)
wow to that too.


edit:
NVM, top SKUs. My bad.

Either way I feel like physical sales are more prominent on switch versus the other consoles.


Also ps4 had no sales that I can remember in February. MH doing work!
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I was dead wrong with my predictions!

I am honestly amazed that despite the fact that the Xbox One S had a two week $50 drop across all of their bundles ($229 and $279 respectively), they still couldn't go toe to toe with the PlayStation 4 at $299.
I feel like where everyone was expecting Xbox One X would be leading to PS4 owners getting an Xbox for their third party games, the opposite is actually happening... or at least in bigger numbers. The Xbox users finally have enough of the lack of exclusives and are getting PS4s as their second console.

Otherwise I have no clue who these people are that are still buying PS4s for "full price" in the US.
 

Zappy

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Nov 2, 2017
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I was dead wrong with my predictions!

I am honestly amazed that despite the fact that the Xbox One S had a two week $50 drop across all of their bundles ($229 and $279 respectively), they still couldn't go toe to toe with the PlayStation 4 at $299.

And the PS4 version of Monster Hunter: World at the top whilst the Xbox One version is below two year-old Switch games slightly boggles the mind.

Despite barely coming second and being the cheapest console by a significant margin, especially during the tax returns, I just cannot see what they can do from here on out, now that they are back to price parity with both the PlayStation 4 and Switch...

Interesting Times Ahead™

They patently cannot do anything to reverse or change their relative positioning. But that has been the case since launch. They launched appallingly and lost 360 players like me to the PS4. Whilst I did get an XB1 down the line and now an X, many didn't,

However, its been clear for a long time that the disastrous launch is slowly but surely being turned around by MS. They won't overtake the PS4 as simply two years headstart is hard to turn round as it is, let alone when you have only recently re-doubled their gaming efforts and re-focussed into the market. MS are looking to next gen and the future.

Having said that, they will end up selling 50M XB1's or more. And that is remarkable given their utterly catastrophic launch and horrible first year where every media outlet dunked on them.;

Their sales performance seems to be on the rise right now, and as they can reduce the price of the X I think they can maintain this trajectory. I suspect the recent talk of new projects will be with a serious eye on next gen launch now.
 

Imad issa

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Nov 8, 2017
558
I predicted switch in 3rd place, i knew it would start losing momentum. I had xbox winning though, pretty crazy ps4 beat it, with all though amazing deals.