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FIA Formula One 2018 |OT| Halo: Racing Evolved
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I bought it with a friend. We've used nowtv a lot in the past.
Blimey to think Sky viewers last year were only 652,000 whilst Channel 4 was 1.9 million. Really makes F1 an elite sport (well, by 2019 in could get a lot worse). the £150 NowTV deal is tempting but I don't know. For someone who's watched F1 since the late 70's paying such a premium really grates. Kinda' just...wrong.
Just watched the 2010 season review and confirms many things in my eyes. Vettel was very lucky to win that year due to many reasons but mainly:
He continues to struggle under pressure and close races show where he stands compared to Alonso and Hamilton. But out in front he does lead well. This is where he shines. But 2010 was gifted to him.
- Lewis retirements. When he didn't crash or had car trouble he did very well. Those lost points would have put him in the lead or close to the championship.
- Mark was hard done by which I'll get into later, but he fucked up too. His slow starts often compromised chances to win at the front, the crash in Korea was his fault, and the poor qualifying in Abu Dhabi put his chance away.
- Alonso should have won after the good performance and the end of the season. The team lost his chance by pitting early in Abu Dhabi. He stays out to pit later he wins the championship simple as that. Ferrari fucked it up.
He continues to struggle under pressure and close races show where he stands compared to Alonso and Hamilton. But out in front he does lead well. This is where he shines. But 2010 was gifted to him.
That's "only" 652k viewers who are paying for it.
1.9 million that is free with anyone that has a license and an aerial to pick up signals is a poor number in comparison.
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Couple of news items.
First, off, Formula E has a DRIVER OF THE DAY now:
And VER won, of course!
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Secondly, and this is great news as far as I'm concerned:
I know people gave Nico shit for saying "For Sure" a lot, but he had tremendous insight and analysis during his appearance last year, and I'm glad we get more of it.
First, off, Formula E has a DRIVER OF THE DAY now:
And VER won, of course!
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Secondly, and this is great news as far as I'm concerned:
I know people gave Nico shit for saying "For Sure" a lot, but he had tremendous insight and analysis during his appearance last year, and I'm glad we get more of it.
I don't think that being fresh out of F1 is that relevant in terms of insight quality. Here in Brazil we have Luciano Burti (an irrelevant F1 driver) and Max Wilson (who was no more than a test driver 20 years ago) and their insights are very good usually. Barrichello, on the other hand, was kind of bad (he didn't last long on TV). :P
Korea was where he lost the title IMHO. With a win there I think the team would've shifted focus to him (rather than Vettel) for the remainder of the season, and that would've been enough to secure the title.
In Belgium we've had active drivers.
2013: Jerôme d'Ambrosio
2014: Charles Pic
2016: Stoffel Vandoorne (and when he was racing, Esteban Ocon took over)
2017: Pierre Gasly
(rtbf)
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I can imagine the mental stress is completely different as a commentator. Does he need to be there for the full race weekend too like he did as a driver?
We have nobody because lol Norwegian racing :'(
The commentators even had a long discussion once about the dire state of racing in Norway
And what do the advertisers and sponsors think? They pay millions for how many bums on seats? Any chance they may simply look at the figures and think "Hang on, we're not getting much coverage" and pull out, there-by making it harder for teams (usually the lower ones) to get money. And it's only that low because the majority of the races aren't live nor show practice etc. I don't know, if it were closer to 1 million on Sky I would say it was a success. But how can Formula 1 grow its fan base with such paltry numbers? Honestly, carrying on like this in 20 years or so they'll be significantly less viewers and lower crowd numbers because they'll all be dead (I'm 48 for example)!
You know, I thought this was a pretty good price for an entire F1 season, seeing as Sky has ten or eleven live races, and a weeks pass is £13 at a time = £143 in all.
Then I realised that it is EVERYTHING on Sky Sports for that duration of time!
Thank you so very much for letting us UK folks know about this.
Glad to realise that this weekend is race weekend. With a small child I'll probably be awake to watch it live anyway so no bother for me!
Rocking up to do a Saturday and Sunday is a lot less work than being an actual driver. Especially the effort it took for him to sabotage so many of Hamiltons engines that year :P
The numbers are terrible when you consider that at times the BBC coverage could pull in 6m viewers. Though I seem to recall that the new boys have already said that the deal they inherited from Bernie for viewership in the UK is terrible as far as they are concerned because its behind a paywall from 2019 till 2024.
And just like everything else, it seems to be coming way too late in the day.
Starting stuff like this and F1 TV after the start of the season is dumb as hell.
I think it's been labeled by Liberty as soon for computers and later on for mobile devices so I wouldn't expect them to be ready for Albert Park, unfortunately.
Its not uncommon for services like this to not make it for the launch of a thing. A decision is taken at some point to greenlight the project, and inevitably the pen pushers that do it don't listen to the people who actually have to make it work. So they decide a bit late, the project maybe hits a few snags and before you know it you've missed the start of the season.
Yep. Both the BBC and ITV were regularly pulling in 3m per race, going up to 8 to 8.5m in the Prime Time races (USA, Interlagos). You can pull the Sky numbers aside, but that doesnt account for 400k viewers on average compared to those days - and a lot of that can be put down to the shitty show that F1 is putting on. The move away from V8s was terrible for that.
Eh, I honestly can't say the at the change from v8 to v6 has caused the drop (with relation to the noise which is what I guess you mean?).
When you can only watch half the season live, a lot people probably just don't bother at all, or will find ways of watching on a stream for free.
The shitty show, sure. That its taken this long for anyone to get close to Mercedes is a credit to Mercedes, but also a huge detriment to the sport. Maybe were it Alonso or Vettel that had been in the other Merc, things might have been a bit more exciting.
Do you guys normally make predictions in here? Well, I'm going to.
Constructor's
Mercedes - Even if they aren't the strongest to begin the season, they've shown they can develop throughout.
Ferrari - That oil smoke is concerning with the new regulations, but I think their engine will be reliable enough to beat...
Red Bull - I do think they'll get their fair share of podiums.
Renault - Their power supply will be magically more robust than their customers'.
Force India - Both drivers are good and the engine will make up for some other deficiencies.
Haas - Let's see how fast last year's Ferrari is. I expect a strong start and then a downturn.
McLaren - It'll be rough for a bit, but I think they'll get it sorted.
Toro Rosso - Even if Honda gives them plenty of power and reliability, the drivers won't be able to capitalize.
Williams - It's a mess.
Sauber - It's a messier mess.
Driver's
Lewis Hamilton - Best driver, best car
Max Verstappen - All the troubles hit Danny this year
Valteri Bottas - Best car
Constructor's
Mercedes - Even if they aren't the strongest to begin the season, they've shown they can develop throughout.
Ferrari - That oil smoke is concerning with the new regulations, but I think their engine will be reliable enough to beat...
Red Bull - I do think they'll get their fair share of podiums.
Renault - Their power supply will be magically more robust than their customers'.
Force India - Both drivers are good and the engine will make up for some other deficiencies.
Haas - Let's see how fast last year's Ferrari is. I expect a strong start and then a downturn.
McLaren - It'll be rough for a bit, but I think they'll get it sorted.
Toro Rosso - Even if Honda gives them plenty of power and reliability, the drivers won't be able to capitalize.
Williams - It's a mess.
Sauber - It's a messier mess.
Driver's
Lewis Hamilton - Best driver, best car
Max Verstappen - All the troubles hit Danny this year
Valteri Bottas - Best car
I'd mostly agree; nothing too shocking on that list. I think McLaren finishes above Haas. McLaren is shit but I think they will get it sorted enough to beat Haas. Haas will have brake issues related to the Ferrari wind tunnel issues (I guess that meme has run it's course?)
It's the fifth year of the formula, in which few have been able to get developmental gains against Mercedes, so let's hope for some surprises this weekend and the rest of the year! F1 is back! (almost lol)
It's the fifth year of the formula, in which few have been able to get developmental gains against Mercedes, so let's hope for some surprises this weekend and the rest of the year! F1 is back! (almost lol)
Very talented field this year. I reckon at least 5 drivers will contend for the championship.
He overcame the talent gap by busting his ass and some luck. He gave Lewis legit competition in qualifying. No shame in his game, he could be a great commentator.
Burning oil isn't illegal. You're just not allowed to vent it into the airbox and the limit is stricter.
I know its not illegal, but they can only burn 600ml per 100km, and they weren't producing any smoke at all last year when the limit was much looser. To deliberately change your design so that you are now pointing a huge arrow at your engine because plumes of smoke fall out of the exhaust, when its an area where the FIA can and will happily drop the limit even further just seems daft. It sure as shit isn't the petrol making the smoke.
We don't know what is causing it, but one factor pointed out is that Ferrari's outlet is far from the exhaust and much colder than the other engines where the outlet is heated by the exhaust. That could be a big factor as the others might have a similar amount coming, just evaporated.
Very talented field this year. I reckon at least 5 drivers will contend for the championship.
"Marcus Armstrong (ITA)"
That has to be the most unItalian name in history. Even googling I found he's from New Zealand and raced in a New Zealand series. I'm really curious lol
He's a Ferrari junior, maybe he's trying to endear himself to the Tifosi lol. Marino Sato is Japanese but is listed as Sanmarinese. Robert Schwartzman isn't exactly a typical Russian name either.
Ferrari junior I noticed, yes. Can they just declare any nationality they want? I realize it's not a big deal like a passport obviously but it just feels weird lol
I think it is tied to the racing license, don't quote me on that.