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Ultra

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If that ship sinks all we'll have left in this manga is nenless gon and a couple of zoldycs lol

It's not like it couldn't work :P

The arc many consider the best only had Gon and Killua and Netero as major known characters. Everyone else was either new or appeared for an episode or two at the most. It's not like this current adventure where literally everyone is on the boat.
 

Komii

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It's not like it couldn't work :P

The arc many consider the best only had Gon and Killua and Netero as major known characters. Everyone else was either new or appeared for an episode or two at the most. It's not like this current adventure where literally everyone is on the boat.
oh yeah lol that's the magic of hunter x hunter... but aside from gon's quest to recover his nen(if he ever wants it back that is) Killua's journey is pretty much...over if the biggest threat for Alluka is off the map, Killua's reason to be in that series was "finding out what he wants to do with his life" and right now he kinda figured that out, so it would be a last arc with gon and stuff
 

HStallion

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You know Killua is going to get involved with Gon and Gyro whether Alluka is a part of it or not. I can't see Killua letting someone like Gyro get sway over his best friend who he considers "the light" in his world.
 

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Chase

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Sticky Fingers from jojo has made it into HxH lol

Extremely dark leveling mechanics as well. Hope there aren't many civilians in harms way.
 

Ultra

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oh yeah lol that's the magic of hunter x hunter... but aside from gon's quest to recover his nen(if he ever wants it back that is) Killua's journey is pretty much...over if the biggest threat for Alluka is off the map, Killua's reason to be in that series was "finding out what he wants to do with his life" and right now he kinda figured that out, so it would be a last arc with gon and stuff

Journeys isn't just personal goals though. To be honest, I'd say now that Kurapika's story is in progress and that literally every lingering thread regarding his character has potential to be resolved on that boat, Killua probably takes the no1 spot for most incomplete, by a noticeable margin. Just more lingering threads.
 

Komii

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Journeys isn't just personal goals though. To be honest, I'd say now that Kurapika's story is in progress and that literally every lingering thread regarding his character has potential to be resolved on that boat, Killua probably takes the no1 spot for most incomplete, by a noticeable margin. Just more lingering threads.
Not really personal gains, it's just that I don't know where killua could go from here, unless his father starts acting up again... and I say that as a big killua fan... remember that anything that could happen in gon and killua's stories will be after a year timeskip... i just wanted Hunter x Hunter to end before 2050 I guess... Anime ending was pretty good even though it didn't close all threads. Now we're back to finish Kurapika's story(and I'm glad for that since I thought we'd never get to this after reading half of the election saga ending chapter)

What I meant is that Gon has potential a quest to recover his nen, but Killua could get away with just living with his sister and never being bothered again... otherwise they'd have to get another 20 years worthy of HxH sagas to close both plotlines vs 5 years for closing just gon's
 
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The Silver

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Yeah things still have to come to a head between Killua and his family, they aren't going to let the heir to the throne run off forever, Killua's current freedom was never meant to be permanent.
 

Ultra

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Not really personal gains, it's just that I don't know where killua could go from here, unless his father starts acting up again... and I say that as a big kullua fan... remember that anything that could happen in gon and killua's stories will be after a year timeskip... i just wanted Hunter x Hunter to end before 2050 I guess... Anime ending was pretty good even though it didn't close all threads. Now we're back to finish Kurapika's story(and I'm glad for that since I thought we'd never get to this after reading half of the election saga ending chapter)

What I meant is that Gon has potential a quest to recover his nen, but Killua could get away with just living with his sister and never being bothered again... otherwise they'd have to get another 20 years worthy of HxH sagas to close both plotlines vs 5 years for closing just gon's

I'd say the nen-quest is more on the speculation side. He didn't show interest in regaining his Nen but was more just confused on why he suddenly didn't have it. Will he regain it? Probably. Will it be a big deal? Probably! Just like Gyro, he probably will be a very big deal but it's just left so uncertain, as is the rematch with Hisoka that's also a probably. That's the difference. The left overs from Gon's arc feels more like they probably will be a big deal, but it's still uncertain. For example, I could see the rematch never actually happening.

Granted, It's not like we aren't speculating when it comes to Killua either, but that speculation is built on stronger foundations. There's more build up, a fuck-ton more. It's important to remember that Silva is allowing Killua to be out there. The conflict with his family [the whole reason for his goal in the first place] has been there since the start of the series, not from the Chimera Ants like Gyro and Gon's Nen being fucked but the very beginning. There's no probables about it, it hasn't slowed down and instead it does reach new peaks every time we see it. This isn't just gonna go away. Illumi made it quite clear that nothing else matters in this world, that above all else he wants Nanika - something he'd make a complete puppet out of Killua to achieve if he had to. The Killua/Illumi conflict is arguably the longest running conflict yet to be resolved. The foundations here at this point are massively stronger than a potential Hisoka/Gon rematch. Gon being the main character only gets him so far, especially when Togashi keeps said main character out of the biggest arc yet.

There's quite a few loose ends, whether that's Killua finding out that Gotoh is dead, something that intentionally hidden from him - which could lead you to ask the question if it's coincidence that Killua is the only one of the main four yet to have anyone close to him lose their life. Kalluto's whole purpose of being in The Phantom Troupe in the first place, his goal of "I will retrieve him" - I mean I could go on and on. How about how nobody seems to be that bothered that Killua removed the needle, it's a big deal for him but what about the rest of the family? It doesn't seem like it. How about the fact that several Kurkoro Mountain inhabitants are still convinced he'll become a splendid assassin? How it's handled is up for speculation, but I haven't seen anyone argue that there won't be a final big "Zoldyck" arc. It couldn't be more obvious, all this build up and lingering threads aren't just gonna get dropped, espicially if Togashi is going out of his way to deal much less important story lines like Hisoka/Chrollo.

However, the most important reason to why as of now Killua's arguably the furthest away from being done [besides Gon] and that's because he has a Dark Continent entity with him - something related to the current saga of Hunter Hunter. He'd never take Alluka to such a dangerous place, therefore Nanika being confirmed from The Dark Continent probably wasn't done to get Killua involved, plenty of ways to do that... yet Togashi chooses one of the most extreme. More importantly, it's not just a Dark Continent entity, but very likely one of the five calamities, and the highest rated one at that. Killua having the top-tier of Hunter Hunter [in terms of threat level] under control, an entity that can cause global extermination, an entity that everyone is scared shitless of alone means he has a lot left to offer.. It just doesn't get much bigger than that in terms of story potential.
 

Komii

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I'd say the nen-quest is more on the speculation side. He didn't show interest in regaining his Nen but was more just confused on why he suddenly didn't have it. Will he regain it? Probably. Will it be a big deal? Probably! Just like Gyro, he probably will be a very big deal but it's just left so uncertain, as is the rematch with Hisoka that's also a probably. That's the difference. The left overs from Gon's arc feels more like they probably will be a big deal, but it's still uncertain. For example, I could see the rematch never actually happening.

Granted, It's not like we aren't speculating when it comes to Killua either, but that speculation is built on stronger foundations. There's more build up, a fuck-ton more. It's important to remember that Silva is allowing Killua to be out there. The conflict with his family [the whole reason for his goal in the first place] has been there since the start of the series, not from the Chimera Ants like Gyro and Gon's Nen being fucked but the very beginning. There's no probables about it, it hasn't slowed down and instead it does reach new peaks every time we see it. This isn't just gonna go away. Illumi made it quite clear that nothing else matters in this world, that above all else he wants Nanika - something he'd make a complete puppet out of Killua to achieve if he had to. The Killua/Illumi conflict is arguably the longest running conflict yet to be resolved. The foundations here at this point are massively stronger than a potential Hisoka/Gon rematch. Gon being the main character only gets him so far, especially when Togashi keeps said main character out of the biggest arc yet.

There's quite a few loose ends, whether that's Killua finding out that Gotoh is dead, something that intentionally hidden from him - which could lead you to ask the question if it's coincidence that Killua is the only one of the main four yet to have anyone close to him lose their life. Kalluto's whole purpose of being in The Phantom Troupe in the first place, his goal of "I will retrieve him" - I mean I could go on and on. How about how nobody seems to be that bothered that Killua removed the needle, it's a big deal for him but what about the rest of the family? It doesn't seem like it. How about the fact that several Kurkoro Mountain inhabitants are still convinced he'll become a splendid assassin? How it's handled is up for speculation, but I haven't seen anyone argue that there won't be a final big "Zoldyck" arc. It couldn't be more obvious, all this build up and lingering threads aren't just gonna get dropped, espicially if Togashi is going out of his way to deal much less important story lines like Hisoka/Chrollo.

However, the most important reason to why as of now Killua's arguably the furthest away from being done [besides Gon] and that's because he has a Dark Continent entity with him - something related to the current saga of Hunter Hunter. He'd never take Alluka to such a dangerous place, therefore Nanika being confirmed from The Dark Continent probably wasn't done to get Killua involved, plenty of ways to do that... yet Togashi chooses one of the most extreme. More importantly, it's not just a Dark Continent entity, but very likely one of the five calamities, and the highest rated one at that. Killua having the top-tier of the Hunter Hunter [in terms of threat level] under control, an entity that can cause global extermination, an entity that everyone is scared shitless of alone means he has a lot left to offer.. It just doesn't get much bigger than that in terms of story potential.
I think you might be overthinking it a little bit... If Illumi is so keen on getting Nanika's power, why is he even on that boat? Are Killua and his sister there too? By your reasoning there's no reason for him to go there if they are not, or even to take Hisoka's job offer to kill him since chasing Alluka is all that matters... I still think his obsession is with Killua, and that Nanika could end up killing Killua and that's why he cares so much, having Alluka also kinda means Killua would have to do as he says after all...

It's the first time I hear about Alluka being something from the dark continent, I could see that happening but how would she get to the Zoldyck household in the first place?It's an interesting theory but I don't know how to make that connection right now...

About going back to his household, well, Silva said that in first Zoldyck arc that killua would come back, he tecnically did and just ran away again xD.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing more from him, but I don't think we'll see him or gon for the next 3-4 years or so because of the hiatuses. I love hunter x hunter and I just wanted it to end in a high note... Being optimistic I'd think this should be the last or second to last saga, after all hisoka made shit hit the fan now, when he's done there won't be much in this series to go on, Illumi might die along with Kalluto soon...

Really, if you want to get all of these strings together, you want killua in this god damned ship. I'd lose it if he was because it'd be too damn awesome since new continent would be a nice hiding place and kalluto is supposedly looking for him. But I know that's hunter x hunter so he might be away from the series until this saga finishes and never be seen again, the same way kurapika seemed out of the series until this arc came out of nowhere.

Let's see where this goes~~~
 

HStallion

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I think Illumi is fine knowing Alluka is with Killua as he can just try and control Alluka through him when he eventually goes down that road.
 

Komii

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I think Illumi is fine knowing Alluka is with Killua as he can just try and control Alluka through him when he eventually goes down that road.
Yeah, that's why I think as well, if it was on the top of his priority list he has no business getting on that ship. He never seemed to care enough about kalluto to protect they(not sure which pronoun to use) after all.
HxH action RPG whennnnnnnnnnnnnnn
it had a greed island mmo and a couple of games iirc
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Hunter_×_Hunter_Video_Games
 

The Silver

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Let's see where this goes~~~
It's already been confirmed Nanika is from the DC in an extra page in vol 33.
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Most likely an Ai, one of the 5 calamities from the DC.(She says "Aye/Ai" and her victims look very much like how Ai kills people) As far how it ended up in Alluka, well we know that Zzigg Zoldyck went to the DC before with Netero, it's very possible he could have brought an Ai back with him.
 

Komii

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It's already been confirmed Nanika is from the DC in an extra page in vol 33.
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Most likely an Ai, one of the 5 calamities from the DC.(She says "Aye/Ai" and her victims look very much like how Ai kills people) As far how it ended up in Alluka, well we know that Zzigg Zoldyck went to the DC before with Netero, it's very possible he could have brought an Ai back with him.
Cool!I've stopped buying volumes because my collection has a gap from v 14~30 and I'm waiting for a bundle to get them all =_=~~

So this could potentially end up in a third zoldyck arc?
 

Ultra

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I think you might be overthinking it a little bit... If Illumi is so keen on getting Nanika's power, why is he even on that boat? Are Killua and his sister there too? By your reasoning there's no reason for him to go there if they are not, or even to take Hisoka's job offer to kill him since chasing Alluka is all that matters... I still think his obsession is with Killua, and that Nanika could end up killing Killua and that's why he cares so much, having Alluka also kinda means Killua would have to do as he says after all...

Unless the reward itself is connected to the hunt for Nanika which would make the most sense. A reward that suspiciously wasn't specified. If Togashi stays consistent with Illumi's character then this absolutely has everything to do with Nanika because it's been established that above all else, that's what he wants. If Illumi is even willing to turn Killua into a brainless puppet to get what he wants, I don't think he would give a damn about a clown hunt because the clown wants a fight... unless said clown has information or something that could help Illumi. It'd be a contradiction to Illumi's characterisation.

And his obsession is definitely with Nanika:


To the point that he's even willing to turn Killua into a brainless drone


It's the first time I hear about Alluka being something from the dark continent, I could see that happening but how would she get to the Zoldyck household in the first place?It's an interesting theory but I don't know how to make that connection right now...

We knew from the start of the series that something wasn't right about the fifth Zoldyck child. We always knew there was a fifth yet throughout the series yet we'd never see her. It definitely was strange. Silva confirmed our suspicions in the election arc and says "that thing is from someplace dark" - clearly referring to The Dark Continent. The victims of Ai [the calamity that most likely inhabitants Alluka] have been found in the known world. Ai and Nanika have the same eyes. Nanika just so happens to say yes as "Ai" which just so happens to be the name of the Calamity. Furthermore, the Zoldycks have history with the Dark Continent as shown with Zzigg Zoldyck travelling with Isaac Netero to the continent. It's possible that the Ai Gas Life form attached itself to him, and when he died it attached itself to Alluka. At the very least, it's canon that the Zoldycks have history with DC therefore it's not at all unlikely how a Calamity could find its way to their household.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing more from him, but I don't think we'll see him or gon for the next 3-4 years or so because of the hiatuses. I love hunter x hunter and I just wanted it to end in a high note... Being optimistic I'd think this should be the last or second to last saga, after all hisoka made shit hit the fan now, when he's done there won't be much in this series to go on, Illumi might die along with Kalluto soon...

Well, I didn't say nor imply it'd be happening anytime soon. I don't expect to see Gon or Killua in the current timeline for quite some time. I just don't agree that his journey is mostly done when the major anchor to causing his journey in the first place is largely unmoved. The point I'm ultimately getting at thought is if Togashi is going out of his way to wrap up much less important story lines like the Hisoka/Troupe conflict, then there's no way in hell he's going to drop one of the longest running plotlines that just happens to have the Deuteragonist of the series at its center, a character more important than Hisoka or any Troupe member.
 

casiopao

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You guys know.... while i am sitting and reading info about Zoldyck.... i just noticed how we still dont know a lot about Silva power huh.

We know he can make genki dama and had super powerful body and thats all. However we do know he killed a spider before and face Chrollo multiple times now. How powerful can Silva be lol.
 

HStallion

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Silva's gotta be top ten in terms of Nen users. Dudes the patriarch of a family of monster Nen using assassins.
 
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I loved him flexing out enough poison to paralyze a whale and using his hair like a tourniquet in his first fight. and his orbital drop, nuking cheetu into paste is pretty fucking impressive also
 

Komii

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he point I'm ultimately getting at thought is if Togashi is going out of his way to wrap up much less important story lines like the Hisoka/Troupe conflict, then there's no way in hell he's going to drop one of the longest running plotlines that just happens to have the Deuteragonist of the series at its center, a character more important than Hisoka or any Troupe member.
I understand the other points, but I think Kurapika's quest involving the spiders is as important to the series as the Zoldyck dilema... before Greed island Kurapika was kinda as important as Gon and Killua, and he also got to star one of the best arc in the story... Illumi and Hisoka's quarrel is contained inside the genei ryodan plotline so it is important to solve it. I thought we'd never get some real closure on that(though it could have been left open in a kind of a bummer way, like the anime did), but i think everyone wanted to see how that would end up as we knew the spiders were still around... He is not getting out of his way. He is finally giving a continuation to the story of a very important character to the series(and maybe continuing killua's as well if illumi makes it to the DC)

When I posted that I didn't know yet about Alluka's connection to the DC. So that's probably where the story will go after that...
I find it kinda funny how Gon got left out of all this since we have no idea of what he'll do next though xD never liked his sagas so much but he's still sort of a protagonist of the manga

I wonder what Milluki's Hatsu is.
He's probably another manipulator and controls his machines to spy around
 

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I'm sure Gon will start playing a much larger role in the manga again as soon as Togashi gets some time to focus on Leorio.
 

John Omaha

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What if Illumi's motive for making the trip is to continue on to the DC and somehow get his own Ai? Makes sense to me.
 

casiopao

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I just noticed why i really like Sandwich little sister princess there lol.....she kinda reminds me of Mukuro lol.^_^

Silva's gotta be top ten in terms of Nen users. Dudes the patriarch of a family of monster Nen using assassins.

I agree lol. He seems to be oozing manliness lol.^_^

I loved him flexing out enough poison to paralyze a whale and using his hair like a tourniquet in his first fight. and his orbital drop, nuking cheetu into paste is pretty fucking impressive also

And whats crazy is Chimera Ants is famous for being durable lol.....and they die just like that.O_O
 

edo_kid

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What if Illumi's motive for making the trip is to continue on to the DC and somehow get his own Ai? Makes sense to me.

How would he even do that?

*Illumi comes up to a pack of Ai*
Illumi - "Hey guys my friendship with Hisoka has ended anyone of you wants to be my new friend"
Ai - "Nah man the last guy that got a human friend never came back, just go home"
*Teleports him home*
 

casiopao

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How would he even do that?

*Illumi comes up to a pack of Ai*
Illumi - "Hey guys my friendship with Hisoka has ended anyone of you wants to be my new friend"
Ai - "Nah man the last guy that got a human friend never came back, just go home"
*Teleports him home*

I dont think AI works like that lol. It will probably just follow unknowing person lol.
 

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Yeah, that's why I think as well, if it was on the top of his priority list he has no business getting on that ship. He never seemed to care enough about kalluto to protect they(not sure which pronoun to use) after all.

it had a greed island mmo and a couple of games iirc
http://hunterxhunter.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Hunter_×_Hunter_Video_Games
Woah, HxH had more games than I remember. I thought it was just a couple of Wonderswan games, that weird PS1 game and that smartphone app. The latter I'm still sad about never officially coming over, because I'd probably be into collecting HxH characters. Plus the card art is pretty cute

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Also, I remember one of the Gon assist summons in Jump Super Star was Gon hiding with Meleoron's ability for a few seconds, then both jumping out and Gon doing a fully charged Jajanken punch. Because that was the original plan in the manga and that's where they were at during the game's development/hiatus, lol

Man, I was watching my HxH S1 Blu-Ray the other day, and couldn't stop thinking about Tonpa. I need to see that man's Nen. Watch him be a lieutenant of Gyro lmao.
He's a conjuration type, able to conjure laxatives and other related items
I imagined his water divination turns the water into a laxative.
Tonpa and his incredible specialist potential...!
 

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There's a not so great PSP game too, it's the last HxH console game i believe.

You guys know.... while i am sitting and reading info about Zoldyck.... i just noticed how we still dont know a lot about Silva power huh.

We know he can make genki dama and had super powerful body and thats all. However we do know he killed a spider before and face Chrollo multiple times now. How powerful can Silva be lol.

If there's a Zoldyck we really don't know shit about, is little grandpa Maha Zoldyck

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I don't think he's appeared again after the Yorknew arc, Togashi forgot him.
 

Komii

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Woah, HxH had more games than I remember. I thought it was just a couple of Wonderswan games, that weird PS1 game and that smartphone app. The latter I'm still sad about never officially coming over, because I'd probably be into collecting HxH characters. Plus the card art is pretty cute

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Also, I remember one of the Gon assist summons in Jump Super Star was Gon hiding with Meleoron's ability for a few seconds, then both jumping out and Gon doing a fully charged Jajanken punch. Because that was the original plan in the manga and that's where they were at during the game's development/hiatus, lol



I imagined his water divination turns the water into a laxative.
Tonpa and his incredible specialist potential...!
Hunter x hunter is still popular as hell in japan, i have no idea why a series that barely publishes anything managed to compete in a market where things get forgotten so quicly tbh :P Togashi is a genious

And i like your headcannon for Tonpa lol
 

Komii

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I guess because he created something that's unique and he is also adored from YYH.
Yeah, I travelled there during yuu yuu hakusho's anniversary, there was still some merchandising for that series and that made me real happy ^^. (Lots of hiei and kurama in a suit merchandising lol) I'm glad Togashi can afford to work in his own terms on Jump because of that series... I hate waiting but i hate even more series being rushed :p and the results show
 
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Yeah, I travelled there during yuu yuu hakusho's anniversary, there was still some merchandising for that series and that made me real happy ^^. (Lots of hiei and kurama in a suit merchandising lol) I'm glad Togashi can afford to work in his own terms on Jump because of that series... I hate waiting but i hate even more series being rushed :p and the results show
I wonder if the Hiei in a suit merch got transformed into Feitan in a suit merch at some point?
 

Komii

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I wonder if the Hiei in a suit merch got transformed into Feitan in a suit merch at some point?
Those were acrilic and rubber keychains, pretty hard to change them even though they're similar lol

The anniversary merchandising section was criminally small tbh

I'm pissed off they just opened hunter cafe... as if missing on Yuu Yuu Hakusho's wasn't enough salt in my wounds;:
 

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I wonder what Milluki's Hatsu is.

It seems that a manipulator's ultimate move is controlling themselves to unlock more power. We have Shalnark's Autopilot, and Pitou's Terpsichora. Pitou was specialization but she seemed to use a lot of manipulation for her techniques.

Edit: Damn, I confused Milluki with Illumi when I typed my post T_T
If Milluki can even use Nen I guess he could make something with technology like that hunter that lives on the Internet.
 
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It seems that a manipulator's ultimate move is controlling themselves to unlock more power. We have Shalnark's Autopilot, and Pitou's Terpsichora. Pitou was specialization but she seemed to use a lot of manipulation for her techniques.

Edit: Damn, I confused Milluki with Illumi when I typed my post T_T
If Milluki can even use Nen I guess he could make something with technology like that hunter that lives on the Internet.
If we're going by the Zoldyck hair color theory, then Milluki is also probably a manipulator type. Most likely manipulating robots, drones, etc to get the work done for him.