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Does Agents of Shield deserve a Season Seven

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 34.0%
  • Most Definitely

    Votes: 16 15.5%
  • Wait, what happen to Six?

    Votes: 13 12.6%
  • Only if they include The Daughters of the Dragon

    Votes: 12 11.7%
  • Thor 2: The Ghost Rider

    Votes: 27 26.2%

  • Total voters
    103

Danthrax

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Oct 25, 2017
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Timeline getting weird. So this scene is 6 months ago. Talbot is generally "ok".

Talbot got shot within a few days of shield going into the framework. How long were they in there? Cause they got out and almost immediately went into the future, and came back 6 months after they left.

So, how fast did Talbot heal? Is he Wolverine?

The team did not return to the present day at the exact point they went into the future. They essentially didn't exist on the planet for about six months (hence the military searching for months and thinking SHIELD had just disappeared ... because it had, basically).
 

Lonestar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol, time travel, like that's real. Now, excuse me while I teleport to another part of the galaxy.

Btw, that totally is probably just a mind image of their own spaceship, to scare puny humans into giving up without a fight.
 

Lonestar

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Oct 25, 2017
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The team did not return to the present day at the exact point they went into the future. They essentially didn't exist on the planet for about six months (hence the military searching for months and thinking SHIELD had just disappeared ... because it had, basically).
Yes, I said they timeskipped 6 months. I'm saying, Talbot healed from a headshot inside of a couple days (the same length of time they were in the framework)
 

Lonestar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Actually, I think there was even less time. Talbot got shot in the finale, post framework. Maybe they timeskipped more than 6 months.

Also, screw Daisy

How could she be a destroyer though, even with enhancement all she has is a Xenablade
Implied she was gonna get the captain America chamber enhancement, and the reason they want gravitonium is to include it on the infusion. So a super soldier Graviton.
 

Eindyien

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Oct 30, 2017
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I keep getting the feeling g their gonna kill off this Fitz and just bring back the Fitz that's on the spaceship.
 

jph139

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Oct 25, 2017
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I knew the back half of the season would be playing with the "we know the future so we can't die!" premise.

And I turned around on Hale on this one. Was iffy on her as the leader of the Masters of Evil or whatever, but the angle on her is pretty unique among the HYDRA goons we've seen.
 

StarCreator

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Oct 25, 2017
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The "I'm invincible" stuff is actually self-defeating. If time is immutable, then the Earth will break apart regardless of how much they attempt to prevent it. If they are really going to try to change that future in earnest, they can't do so thinking anything their trip to the future revealed will come to pass.
 

Danthrax

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I knew the back half of the season would be playing with the "we know the future so we can't die!" premise.

And I turned around on Hale on this one. Was iffy on her as the leader of the Masters of Evil or whatever, but the angle on her is pretty unique among the HYDRA goons we've seen.

Yeah, I liked seeing that backstory, it was good. Hale's motivations make sense.

I need an anime comedy Hydra High School, tho
 

jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
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what a crazy, unsettling episode

part of me hopes this is the last season so we can go wild and blow this thing up to end it all
 

DangerMouse

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Oct 25, 2017
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The "I'm invincible" stuff is actually self-defeating. If time is immutable, then the Earth will break apart regardless of how much they attempt to prevent it. If they are really going to try to change that future in earnest, they can't do so thinking anything their trip to the future revealed will come to pass.
Yup. Haha. Would be cool if one of them gives them that wake up call in a verbal bitch slap that if they're trying to change the future then them being alive in that version of the future doesn't necessarily ensure that anymore.
 
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Christian

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Oct 25, 2017
9,636
Death flags are flying everywhere! Great episode. These week waits between are brutal! The Fitz/Simmons conversation at the end was glorious.
 

Violater

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Nov 19, 2017
1,450
Time travel is a death flag to the series in my book. For a series that has so many story lines left with unanswered questions, I don't see how they plan on wrapping this one up.
Also who is supposed to be on the armada of alien ships in Coulson's vision?
 

Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I see her quaking him into a wall as letting him off light considering what he did.
Yeah and Fitz brought up the time she turned but all she did when she confronted him was hold him down and threaten to snap his neck. He fuckin opened her up so I'm not trying to hear that it's the same and she's justified in her actions and how she feels about Fitz.
Still though wow at Fitz just full on not backing down from his actions. He just straight up embraced what he did and what he's willing to do.
 

vivftp

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Oct 29, 2017
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Time travel is a death flag to the series in my book. For a series that has so many story lines left with unanswered questions, I don't see how they plan on wrapping this one up.
Also who is supposed to be on the armada of alien ships in Coulson's vision?

I honestly thought it was a vision of Thanos's armada. With Infinity War so close do we have any reason to believe they'd try to pull out another major alien ship/fleet coming to Earth?

Also, it seems pretty clear that no one has any clue that Dr. Hall is still alive within the gravitonium. I'm guessing he's the source of the Earth cracking apart.
 

DangerMouse

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Oct 25, 2017
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I honestly thought it was a vision of Thanos's armada. With Infinity War so close do we have any reason to believe they'd try to pull out another major alien ship/fleet coming to Earth?

Also, it seems pretty clear that no one has any clue that Dr. Hall is still alive within the gravitonium. I'm guessing he's the source of the Earth cracking apart.
Yeah, that's what I thought it was going to be as well, though they didn't specify so maybe not.

Oh, interesting thought.

Yeah, I see her quaking him into a wall as letting him off light considering what he did.
Yup.
We also know she controlled it enough to not really hurt him like she could have.

Yeah and Fitz brought up the time she turned but all she did when she confronted him was hold him down and threaten to snap his neck. He fuckin opened her up so I'm not trying to hear that it's the same and she's justified in her actions and how she feels about Fitz.
Still though wow at Fitz just full on not backing down from his actions. He just straight up embraced what he did and what he's willing to do.
Yeah.
 
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vivftp

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Oct 29, 2017
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So Daisy's off to find Robin? Well last we heard she was being protected by Hunter and Bobbi, so are we likely to see them next episode?
 

milamber182

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Dec 15, 2017
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The script writers seem highly motivated to try to keep topping themselves and it's awesome. Perhaps its the constant threat of cancellation LOL.

Can anyone confirm that was the spaceship from
the post-credits scene in Thor: Ragnarok?
 

Zomba13

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh, as shitty as what Fitz did was I think he was right. They needed to put the gravitonium in the ball and into the rift or else it would keep growing and start affecting above ground and innocents would die because of it. Daisy was the only one who could do it and she straight up says she wouldn't do it if Fitz asked her to so he had to force it.

And for someone who doesn't want her powers any more and is afraid of them she sure was quick to scare Fitz with them. And then rush off to use an innocent little girl, who is in hiding because of her powers, to find her Shield Dad.

The script writers seem highly motivated to try to keep topping themselves and it's awesome. Perhaps its the constant threat of cancellation LOL.

Can anyone confirm that was the spaceship from
the post-credits scene in Thor: Ragnarok?

I don't think it was. I remember that one having a curved front and the one in the show was like, if you took a few buildings and titled them sideways.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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Amazing episode. That stuff in the end was just fantastic.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is the difference between bad writing and good writing. Comparing it to The Walking Dead, for example, is amazing. Having characters like May and Mack understand what FItz is going through, having Talbot know it wasn't Daisy that shot him. That's good writing.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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It's interesting that Jemma's flimsy theory (with no direct evidence) that FitzSimmions is invincible is based Yo-Yo's more solid theory she is invivable (based on more direct evidence). So, the 'good guys' now have three characters who think they can't die, and will put themselves in danger because of it, and one of the three is now likely willing to hurt more of his friends for the good of the many.

That's.... not.... ending.... well. Ever!
 

Clowns

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just had a thought: when Deke's mom popped up and told him to fuck off away from Shield, I assumed it was the FEAR DIMENSION ooooOOOoooooOoooo; but what if Fitz's mental condition is more than just a result of trauma? Maybe there's a genetic component. She didn't attack him like the other apparitions.
 

B.K.

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Oct 31, 2017
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She didn't attack him like the other apparitions.

They don't have to attack. Just like Deathlock didn't try to attack Coulson when he was trying to convince him that he was dead. After living in the Lighthouse all his life, where to many people were out to get you and you couldn't trust anyone, he's afraid to get close to or trust anyone.
 

milamber182

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Eh, as shitty as what Fitz did was I think he was right. They needed to put the gravitonium in the ball and into the rift or else it would keep growing and start affecting above ground and innocents would die because of it. Daisy was the only one who could do it and she straight up says she wouldn't do it if Fitz asked her to so he had to force it.

And for someone who doesn't want her powers any more and is afraid of them she sure was quick to scare Fitz with them. And then rush off to use an innocent little girl, who is in hiding because of her powers, to find her Shield Dad.



I don't think it was. I remember that one having a curved front and the one in the show was like, if you took a few buildings and titled them sideways.

Figured it was a different invasion with a similar spaceship design linked to the Kree. Still, the Confederacy probably know about that Thanos is coming and plan to screw Earth over.
 

BDS

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Oct 25, 2017
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This show is so damn good every single week. I loved all the little callbacks and character cameos in this episode.