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Hattori

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Oct 25, 2017
474
I think the player count is dwindling, I just encountered the same three people four times for the opera quest lol
 

Boogalogist

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Oct 25, 2017
704
Decided to give in and get Guard 3 for my CB set. I was so fucking tired of not being able to guard point -> SAED Bazel roars.

Now every time that bastard roars (which is a lot of the time) he gets to eat a shit-ton of damage. Sucks to lose Guard Up, but there really aren't that many uses for it that you can't just dodge normally.

Guard 3 is amazing for CB's Guard Points! I love it.


Been solo farming tempered Kushala and my times are inconsistent. Ranging from 10 mins to 15 mins. What weapon and armor config are you guys using against Kushala to get consistent timing below 10 mins (solo)?
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,398
The percentages are close together, so you really can get anything from a silver reward. That won't make it less frustrating when you want that horn and the game just keeps giving you tails. But maybe it helps to know this part of the rewards is completely RNG and not some weird oversight on Capcom's part.
I see what you're saying but I still think it's an oversight. The percentages should be adjusted more significantly according to what you break, rather than be so close together.
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
I'm sure it says something that I apparently have an easier time getting Hero's Streamstones than Warrior's. I haven't been able to augment my Diablos CB yet because I only have 1 Warrior's: Axe and I must've gotten that a month ago.

It's bad enough that it's super hard to get the ones you want, but did they have to make it super hard to get them at all? Even the more common ones?
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
Gotta wait for Spring event.....farm Tempered Jho for higher chances of streamstones.
Sucks that this one event is apparently the only decent way to get them.

I'm fine with Hero's being rare, but I'd like to think Warrior's should be a tad easier to get. It's not like people are going to blow through the endgame seeing as how there's no way to guarantee getting the ones you want.
 

SnesCartman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tempered Negigante with Discord Era Juraash @Krusche Kismet
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Tempered Nerginante in 2"17"85
 

Morrigan

Spear of the Metal Church
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Oct 24, 2017
34,398
Yeah I know but still. Impressive.

How long does a might pill last? I know mega demondrug lasts until you cart, I think?
 

Moppy

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Oct 27, 2017
2,667
Huh, I've fired an SOS flare for 3 consecutive tempered nergigante quests and gotten no other people to join. Sure it was a crappy 2 reward quest but still. Player base might be starting to tank on Xbox One...

Like someone else said, could be server issues. I'm on Xbox and have been having a bunch of disconnect/dropped group issues the last week, week and a half.
 

Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
472
Gotta wait for Spring event.....farm Tempered Jho for higher chances of streamstones.

After 355h I have more hero stones than I need. in my box are:

2 SA/CB
2 GS/LS
2 H/HH
1 HBG/LBG
3 L/GL
1 SNS/DB

just the shaft one, for bows and insect glaives is missing (never got one of these). I already augmented 1 HH, 1 LS and 1 LBG (all rarity 8 obviously). I got every stone except one from tempered elders, the tempered jho didn't give me more than one after 5 or 6 attempts. It is easier and faster for me to kill a tempered kirin. Warrior Stones is even better, got 16 (!) cb/sa stones ...

yes, I am a hoarder ... Since MH on PS2 I have a mentality to always have at least one of everything in the box ... (the desire sensor must not know what I need!!! /s).

At the moment I am looking for gold crowns, so maybe that's why I got more stones the last weeks than the two weeks before combined ... or rng is just on my side these days. But overall I play for fun ... I don't play that much anymore, because there is not really a goal (aside from the platinum trophy) for me to achieve. The only thing I miss in MHW is my old group ... But I guess we grew older since 2005 ...


So I bumped into bezelgese today for the 1st time I am still wearing odogoron gear, at just hit level 6 monsters. Getting hit by a scale is a 1 shot. Any tips? Builds? I've already switched to a faster more agile weapon class after odor. I went from charge blade/ switch axe to insect glaive/bow. This monster is next level help

dung pods. If he appears, cover him in poop. then proceed doing your thing until he shows again, poop on him again if necessary. Farm some rarity 7 or 8 armor, good fire resistance and then ... kill bagel ... You will get to a point, where you use him as an ally against other monsters ;)
 

Jessmo24

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
753
So I bumped into bezelgese today for the 1st time I am still wearing odogoron gear, at just hit level 6 monsters. Getting hit by a scale is a 1 shot. Any tips? Builds? I've already switched to a faster more agile weapon class after odor. I went from charge blade/ switch axe to insect glaive/bow. This monster is next level help
 

Imperfected

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Nov 9, 2017
11,737
Yeah I know but still. Impressive.

How long does a might pill last? I know mega demondrug lasts until you cart, I think?

Like Guppeth said, they're super short duration (20 seconds) but the bonus attack is actually way, way bigger than the other stuff available. If I'm not mistaken they also stack with basically everything, including Demondrug.
 

Juraash

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Oct 25, 2017
5,375
my gs build for refference


yeah gs charge is the best damage in the game plus we all eat might pills.
thats our second try, our first takes 2"57.

I should make a build for our GS runs. I basically run focus, weakness exploit 3 and utility skills. I bet we could do sub 2 if I had a more min/max style build (and we had caught him with a flash).
 

Dental Plan

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Oct 25, 2017
1,840
Los Angeles, CA
I tried out the heavy bow gun on tempered vaal solo. Took me almost 30 minutes to kill it.

Seems like I need to get the hang of the weapon still. It's fun but I get kinda bored using it. Maybe I'm missing something.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
I see what you're saying but I still think it's an oversight. The percentages should be adjusted more significantly according to what you break, rather than be so close together.
I personally don't mind the silver/gold reward boxes as they are. The biggest problem right now with breaking parts is how, say, breaking a horn still doesn't guarantee a horn as a bonus reward. For Kushala Daora there's a 66% chance you get a horn, 32% you get a scale and 2% you get a gem. That's just another unneeded layer of RNG especially if you consider breaking the horns isn't easy in the first place.

What I like to see is a guaranteed 100% chance of getting a horn, with the scale and the gem (and perhaps even a second horn) as an extra reward decided by RNG. You could consider them the result of collateral damage when you break the first horn.

But first and foremost: you break a horn, you get a horn. That's how it should work.
 

SnesCartman

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Oct 25, 2017
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I should make a build for our GS runs. I basically run focus, weakness exploit 3 and utility skills. I bet we could do sub 2 if I had a more min/max style build (and we had caught him with a flash).
it all started as fun run all gs and that turned to this (I remember you said didn't have a proper gs set) , imagine if we all take more serious approach.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
I personally don't mind the silver/gold reward boxes as they are. The biggest problem right now with breaking parts is how, say, breaking a horn still doesn't guarantee a horn as a bonus reward. For Kushala Daora there's a 66% chance you get a horn, 32% you get a scale and 2% you get a gem. That's just another unneeded layer of RNG especially if you consider breaking the horns isn't easy in the first place.

What I like to see is a guaranteed 100% chance of getting a horn, with the scale and the gem (and perhaps even a second horn) as an extra reward decided by RNG. You could consider them the result of collateral damage when you break the first horn.

But first and foremost: you break a horn, you get a horn. That's how it should work.

You wouldn't play the game much if everything dropped 100%

It's a grind game. It's just how it is. Horns do clearly need some sort of increase but not a guarantee.
 

KushalaDaora

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Oct 27, 2017
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I tried out the heavy bow gun on tempered vaal solo. Took me almost 30 minutes to kill it.

Seems like I need to get the hang of the weapon still. It's fun but I get kinda bored using it. Maybe I'm missing something.

For Vaal, try Shotgun build using Nergigante HBG (2x Close Range Mod, 1x Shield Mod). With proper offensive build (Attack Boost, Weakness Exploit, Maximum Might, Spread Shot Up), using Spread 3 you are looking at 17-20 x 7 damage per shot, that about 360-420 damage before you reload.

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Picked up LongSword as my next weapon, holy crap I can't believe they pitch LS as noob/beginner friendly weapon.

Getting to maximum damage potential is harder than DB or even Insect Glaive/Charge Blade, and Foresight Slash literally a harder-to-pull-but-more-rewarding version of Lance's Counter Thrust.
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
15,327
the Netherlands
You wouldn't play the game much if everything dropped 100%

It's a grind game. It's just how it is. Horns do clearly need some sort of increase but not a guarantee.
I don't know, I feel the incentive to keep playing is already provided by weapons and armor requiring multiple horns/fangs/whatever. Even with guaranteed horn drops (and only when you break the horn), grinding is still required.
 

Imperfected

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Nov 9, 2017
11,737
Getting to maximum damage potential is harder than DB or even Insect Glaive/Charge Blade, and Foresight Slash literally a harder-to-pull-but-more-rewarding version of Lance's Counter Thrust.

It's so much more generous with the window now than it was pre-patch, though. You can Slash through basically everything in the game now, as long as you're careful not to throw yourself straight into the second half of multi-part attacks.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
Money is my biggest issue along with Majestic horns being insanely hard to get. I have the mats for so many things just so little money.

Though with the story done I'm not sure what my focus is now, endless end game grinding with no clear goal just ends up with me losing interest.
 

Number45

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Oct 25, 2017
5,038
Man, I couldn't do shit last night.

  • SOS'd a 4 reward, 1 cart tempered Kushala. Someone carted.
  • Decided to switch to bow and solo it. Carted
  • Switched back to lance. Carted.
  • Devil'jho capture. Carted (he's easy with lance)
Had to run a couple of Vaal runs before I signed off for the night just for some easy rewards and to restore some confidence.

Money is my biggest issue along with Majestic horns being insanely hard to get. I have the mats for so many things just so little money.
I feel like I'm in the minority, but as I solo'd pretty much all of the story and I've only crafted what was necessary money isn't a problem for me. 6 million and counting! I did spend a chunk of time using nothing but the bandit mantle (stopped now, running around hoovering that shit up is annoying) and I do save my high zenny reward investigations for my vouchers but other than that just the full reward value from soloing has served me well.

I haven't even sold any materials.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
I've been buying gear to make my 7 element sets. (Fire, Water, Thunder, Ice, Dragon, Poison and Paralysis) so any money than comes in instantly gets used up as there is always something to get.

So while money is an issue I guess I do have a lot to show for it.
 

Number45

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Oct 25, 2017
5,038
I should have mentioned I crafted every single bow (except the arena bow, and now Jho) during that time!

Soloing is definitely a good way to keep that money going up (particularly if you can pair it with the bandit mantle). I mean I have a lot of hours in the game now (closing on 300 hours) but I haven't had to worry about money basically since I started.
 

Imperfected

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Nov 9, 2017
11,737
I've got 5.5 million Zenny and I haven't even bothered to sell any of my hundreds upon hundreds of spare monster bits. I've got full sets of all the Elder Dragon armor, Augmented and Upgraded. I've got a Rarity 8 weapon of every type.

Multiplayer is serious poverty. It's not 1/4th the Zenny, it's more like 1/10th, if that.
 

Number45

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Oct 25, 2017
5,038
I've got 5.5 million Zenny and I haven't even bothered to sell any of my hundreds upon hundreds of spare monster bits. I've got full sets of all the Elder Dragon armor, Augmented and Upgraded. I've got a Rarity 8 weapon of every type.

Multiplayer is serious poverty. It's not 1/4th the Zenny, it's more like 1/10th, if that.
Yeah, once you take the odd cart into consideration it definitely gets much worse than a quarter.

I'm always furious with myself if I cart on a mission where I've used a voucher.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
I only ever play multiplayer. I guess it's time to Solo it for a while if I want that Zenny, eh
 

Defuser

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Oct 25, 2017
3,343
Drop rates for horns+ (Vaal and Kushala, at least) really, really need a patch. Breaking the head doesn't even guarantee a horn in the rewards, which is ridiculous. Horn carves are incredibly rare, swear to Satan I've carved gems more often than horns. And even with investigations with gold and silver rewards, I still get throwaway parts like claws or tails (without even having cut the tail!) more often than the goddamn horns. And of course, you typically need like, 1 or 2 tails at the most for a weapon or armour set, but you typically need 5-6 horns for the same amount of loot...

Meanwhile, you don't cut the monster's tail, and still get tails, often more than one, in rewards? What?

Last night I farmed Kushala Daora for its horns (needed a whole bunch of 'em for the weapons I wanted). I had a nice Investigation with 2 players, 1 silver and 3 gold (!) rewards. One time I did break the head for sure, never touched the tail, yet I had 2 tails in rewards and 0 horns. Capcom plz. ;_;

Oh, the worst part? I had PartBreaker 3 and focused almost only on its head, as did my friend (since I told her to focus on the head too). In one of the hunts it flew away to sleep and we each dropped 2 bombs on its head while it slept. Head still didn't break. What...

Last week or so I had similar issues with Vaal horns fangs. I wanted to make that dope-looking Vaal lance, but of course I needed like 6 fucking horns fangs. Breaking the head on Vaal was easier than on Kushala for some reason (even if it's harder to reach since you can't flash bomb it to ground it, have to get creative with stalactites etc.) but I'd still get like 1 measly horn fang+ every 2-3 hunts. It's absurd and makes no sense.
Thats because you need to 'break' kushal head 5 times and have to be below 20 to 25% health on the fifth 'break' or beyond in order to break his horns to get it. Its not rare but a bitch to achieve especially in multiplayer where the values are multiplied. Check out gaijin hunter on youtube on the droprates and you will see. Its almost the same for Teo except Teo is twice.
 

Recall

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Oct 27, 2017
445
If you play offline does that alter anything? Like truly offline compared to just doing online session quests solo?

I imagine not but the game is full of stuff I know nothing about so wanted to ask. Cheers
 

Number45

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,038
54 Kushala Daoras killed, still waiting on my first gem :(
I definitely have less luck with his gems than the other elders. Teostra and Nergigante in particular aren't cheap with their gems (for me).

If you play offline does that alter anything? Like truly offline compared to just doing online session quests solo?

I imagine not but the game is full of stuff I know nothing about so wanted to ask. Cheers
As far as I know it's no different. Saves you having to worry about people in your session joining and messing you up or having to change the max players to 1, but that should be it.

EDIT: You'd also have to unlock all of the canteen ingredients yourself as you wouldn't get the benefit of others in the online session.
 
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Recall

Member
Oct 27, 2017
445
Thanks for the info.

I think I'm just going to work through the optional quests, and see if I can get them all done solo. Get some of that Zenny saved up.
 

SunhiLegend

The Legend Continues
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Oct 25, 2017
2,573
54 Kushala Daoras killed, still waiting on my first gem :(
Yeah that's kinda crazy fighting a monster that many times for a certain material, like I said before I haven't really had any problem farming so far, usually with investigations I'll have what I need after a few fights whether it's fangs or gems, most was like 10 with Vaal because yeah, was only getting one fang every couple hunts and I only needed 3 for the Mail, and just having a look I've fought Kushala 6 times including the optional quest and I've got 1 gem and 7 horns. I can't imagine having to fight the same monster that many times without getting what you need.
 

Imperfected

Member
Nov 9, 2017
11,737
I really hope they use the alternate skin Kushala as an excuse to make him like 250% bigger.

Bitch-ass dragon needs a sandwich.
 

Siegmeyer

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Nov 2, 2017
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Yeah that's kinda crazy fighting a monster that many times for a certain material, like I said before I haven't really had any problem farming so far, usually with investigations I'll have what I need after a few fights whether it's fangs or gems, most was like 10 with Vaal because yeah, was only getting one fang every couple hunts and I only needed 3 for the Mail, and just having a look I've fought Kushala 6 times including the optional quest and I've got 1 gem and 7 horns. I can't imagine having to fight the same monster that many times without getting what you need.

It's crazy, I've got at least 5 gems from all other monsters, yet KD eludes me. At this point I've done everything in the game and am just crown hunting whilst joining SOSs, I still need the large KD crown so I jump in whenever it appears in the list, no luck thus far. Of course I could use the melder, but at this point I'm just being stubborn and want to see how long my run of bad luck continues.
 

IvorB

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Oct 28, 2017
2,995
I really like the environments in this game and took a bunch of screenshots during the campaign that I may as well post. I've put them in spoilers in case anyone has not reached he areas yet.

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acmshar

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Nov 26, 2017
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Does anyone have any good custom meals saved? I mostly play charge blade and dual blades. I've been using the chef special mostly so far, but now I have most of the ingredients and the hunts are harder, so I figured I should start eating for the felyne bonuses a little more and just using a max potion for the health.
 

Geist 6one7

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Oct 29, 2017
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MASS
The worst thing about Kushala is when you get a knockdown and rush up to the head to get some licks in but your positioning is just a little too close. Then this happens:
 

KanameYuuki

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Dec 23, 2017
2,651
Colombia
I keep getting a lot of Sword warrior and hero stones, I guess destiny really wants me to try GS, can't wait for the new cool looking one, it looks pretty scary to both move and attack so slowly tho.
 
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