More or less where I stand. The unvoting isn't really a scum tell, but it's not town tell either.
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Monopoly Mafia - Proletariat of the World Unite
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More or less where I stand. The unvoting isn't really a scum tell, but it's not town tell either.
I'm now gonna do a weird thing and cycle through my suspicions. Maybe by having them registered in Febe's vote tool people from the future will glance at them and feel compelled to actually read back on dead townies.
VOTE: Geno
This suspicion is a mixture of meta stuff, my direct impression of one particular post, and a healthy dose of confirmation bias.
Meta stuff - Geno is usually incredibly inquisitive, and one of the players (alongside Terra) who taught me the value of pressing people right off the bat on D1. He hasn't done any of that so far.
My direct impression of one particular post - This one:
Healthy dose of confirmation bias - Him being nin's scummate would explain why nin came to his defense yesterday in what was, at the very least, a really weird move.
VOTE: Geno
This suspicion is a mixture of meta stuff, my direct impression of one particular post, and a healthy dose of confirmation bias.
Meta stuff - Geno is usually incredibly inquisitive, and one of the players (alongside Terra) who taught me the value of pressing people right off the bat on D1. He hasn't done any of that so far.
My direct impression of one particular post - This one:
It's been pointed out by others before, but he's entertaining some stuff that is strangely anti-town in there. And everything about this post seems premeditated, right down to the wording. He has a thesis, an argument, "which brings me to my point". It does not feel like a "thinking out loud"-speculative townie moment.
Healthy dose of confirmation bias - Him being nin's scummate would explain why nin came to his defense yesterday in what was, at the very least, a really weird move.
VOTE: nin
I've talked about this before. nin's posts always have a weird endearing tone to them, but I don't see anything in his contributions so far to town-read him as some others do.
At the same time, his move to defend Geno unsolicited was at the bottom of the uncanny valley, his explanation was a bit eh, and his pointing of fingers at DCPat and Kalor that came right after felt very artificial.
I've talked about this before. nin's posts always have a weird endearing tone to them, but I don't see anything in his contributions so far to town-read him as some others do.
At the same time, his move to defend Geno unsolicited was at the bottom of the uncanny valley, his explanation was a bit eh, and his pointing of fingers at DCPat and Kalor that came right after felt very artificial.
VOTE: Stuart444
Mostly a (surprisingly strong) gut read so far. It's a collection of little things. I'm not about to lynch a newbie on D1, though, so I'm not even gonna go there.
Mostly a (surprisingly strong) gut read so far. It's a collection of little things. I'm not about to lynch a newbie on D1, though, so I'm not even gonna go there.
Are you guys kidding me? In what universe have three people changing votes almost simulatiously on D1 ever been a coordinated Scum-effort? Come on... You're giving them way too much credit.
Still have a team-meeting in another forum I mod, so I'm very glad this day goes another hour, because I can only check in sparodically rn ;)
Despite having put the first vote against Sexy Fish way back then, I'm not feeling that lynch right now.
It seems like we're easily sliding into it with votes like empressdonna's and Nicole's, which were originally prodding ones and yet still remain there.
It seems like we're easily sliding into it with votes like empressdonna's and Nicole's, which were originally prodding ones and yet still remain there.
See, that's what I get for only skimming the thread before posting. That's a valid explanation why people are wary of those voting coincidences. You are alowed to disregard my yelling. I still don't think it's a scumtell, though,
Back home until day end. Few things.
1.Apollo are you reading? I already said why what Grizzly said was nonsense, not what the rest said, Grizzly. It was because he didn't feel the post was a call to mass claim but rather rolefishing, in that situation it COULDN'T be rolefishing without being a mass claim call because I wasn't talking to anyone in particular.
2.I already said in Buck Bumble I was going to switch my playstyle because I didn't feel like activity is being rewarded and I still don't.
3.My vote will stay on Kyan for the foreseeable future of the game until he is out.
1.Apollo are you reading? I already said why what Grizzly said was nonsense, not what the rest said, Grizzly. It was because he didn't feel the post was a call to mass claim but rather rolefishing, in that situation it COULDN'T be rolefishing without being a mass claim call because I wasn't talking to anyone in particular.
2.I already said in Buck Bumble I was going to switch my playstyle because I didn't feel like activity is being rewarded and I still don't.
3.My vote will stay on Kyan for the foreseeable future of the game until he is out.
But scum would benefit from even one player claiming their role under false sense of security - it doesn't need to be a mass claim for scum to benefit from it.
But what is your reasoning for this? At the moment he has contributed more to the game even if you discard the posts that are not read easily.
I get your 2nd point at the moment, but a chance of playstyle is always something we have to keep an eye out for. But I'm sure you understand that.
It was still appealing to the whole game, aka the masses. Let's say I say right now "Hey town let's mass claim" and one dumbass goes "Duh uh I'm doctor", then yeah scum benefited from a single dumbass, but that was still a call to mass claim, you feel me?
But of course scum wouldn't ask for a mass claim at this early point of the game. Nobody would be that suicidal, even if it helped to out the doctor. If the scum were rolefishing at this stage, they would try with less obvious approach, like how your post at least looked at, even if it wasn't your intention.
I feel like this will just go in circles so I won't bother. Believe what you want to believe.
Post #311 for example? And I forgot some words in the post you quoted. I meant to say he contributed more than others.
I have to agree. Role-fishing one specific player or asking for a mass claim - the end result is the same. The issue I have with that post is that it seems to want to ease people into being more open with their info.
I really don't like this. I get that his posts are hard to understand, but this just seems completely unhelpful.
Also, I need to note this:
This is dumb. Inactive game is going to only benefit scum. Active players are going to be a help for town, especially if they contribute to the game. This doesn't mean that said active players won't be lynched at no point of time, but being less active due to "meh, it isn't rewarded" is just meh.
This is dumb. Inactive game is going to only benefit scum. Active players are going to be a help for town, especially if they contribute to the game. This doesn't mean that said active players won't be lynched at no point of time, but being less active due to "meh, it isn't rewarded" is just meh.
On mobile, trying to get hone before day ends, but I'm not sure I'm gonna make it. Can I get a vote count Faddy?
It ain't much, it was just talk around mechanics, stuff we already said.
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
sexy fish (4 votes)
empressdonna - #263
sweetnicole - #282
stuart444 - #295
kalor - #328
kyanrute (2 votes)
zippedpinhead - #152
geno - #183
apollo (1 votes)
grizzly - #249
geno (1 votes)
apollo - #340
stuart444 (1 votes)
brazil - #354
xbro (0 votes)
royal_flush (0 votes)
zippedpinhead (0 votes)
empressdonna (0 votes)
dcpat (0 votes)
brazil (0 votes)
sophia (0 votes)
nin (0 votes)
Post Counts:
grizzly: 33 brazil: 26 kyanrute: 23 fandorin: 23 dcpat: 21 geno: 20 nin: 19 sophia: 17 kalor: 16 ketkat: 15 sexy fish: 13 stuart444: 13 zippedpinhead: 13 sweetnicole: 12 xbro: 12 royal_flush: 12 apollo: 12 empressdonna: 10 faddy: 7 bronx-man: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
I'm trying to figure out if this is a Sexy Fish defense post or not.
I should not that my vote was not a prodding one, but that it was a legitimate vote for lynching at the time. I voted in a post that was explaining my preferred trains/lynch candidates for today.
Come on, guys.
I really hope nobody else is being intentionally inactive just because "lol activity is not rewarded". That kind of attitude just makes me angry.
I'm still on the top 5 posters so you can't really say I'm inactive.
As someone who was unfortunately inactive due to some issues, being intentionally inactive just ruins the fun for everyone. Not cool.
To me, the fact that there hasn't been strong pushes feels like town vs town candidates right now. I'd expect more activity towards a new target if Sexy_Fish was a scum starting about an hour ago. That it hasn't happened does not clear Sexy_Fish, but I'm more interested in putting a vote elsewhere to see what happens.
I'm largely placing this vote off a gut read, but let's see how this goes.
VOTE: zippedpinhead
It's neither. I wouldn't be appalled if we ended up lynching Sexy Fish, but right now I'd much rather see either Geno or nin flip. Not having any real resistance to a lynch with almost 10 players without an active vote is alarming to me.
Regarding your vote, you're right - I misrepresented it. I had done just a quick glance back at your vote and your wording gave me the wrong impression:
So I retract that.
Is comrade Geno genuine or did he see how my perseverance was rewarded and now he feels he must do the same? How much is too much? Accepting today could lead into accepting the possible turnaround tomorrow and that turnaround would not be natural at all. And the continuation, that would be like a capitalist without workers to oppress. Approaching the point of no return, comrade?
I'm not intentionally being inactive, I'm just caught up with some stuff irl (I have some slight food poisoning :().
There's too much around Geno that I just don't like. The slight role-fishing and the defense involved in it felt odd on their own, but actively keeping your vote in only one place because you don't like how a player types doesn't sit right with me. It certainly doesn't benefit town in any way to do something like that.
VOTE: Geno
VOTE: Geno
Don't get me wrong Donna, inactivity due irl reasons or just being busy is just life. I'm more calling out people limiting their activity/posting intentionally.
we can't all be sportacus! Let's hunt Robbie Rotten, I'm sure he is scum.
Come on, guys.
Sweetnicole, Why not Kyanrute or someone who recently switched off him? By your metric, a lot of people have switched off of him in the last two hours and we are nearing day end.
Last game, when I replaced a scum after day 1, no one on scum team had an active vote at the end of day 1. Just saying, votes are weird. At the least I'm thinking that scum for sure would not be lining up on any one (or even two) potential lynches today.
Well that's not suspicious at all
This is a bad reasoning btw, just say self preservation, don't try to twist it.
Am currently in class. Don't have much room to read, but I agree with some of what has been said about Geno. Also think Apollo just found one post from Geno and built all of his posts thereafter to be based on that.
For now, the last thing Geno said toward Kyan was interesting to say the least. I'll pay my vote there.
vote: Geno
For now, the last thing Geno said toward Kyan was interesting to say the least. I'll pay my vote there.
vote: Geno
Brazil was already playing with the idea, and I think Sexy Fish is just scared of getting lynched himself. It felt like that with his kyan vote as well
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