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Media Create Sales: Week 13, 2018 (Mar 26 - Apr 01)

Mory Dunz

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Lelouch0612 said:
It is not meant to sell as well as the Variety kit. The long-term idea is that once people will enjoy and finish the Variety Kit they'll be able to buy another, more complex one : the Robot Kit.
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I mean I don't see the appeal in general. At least for costing more than Variety kit.

The game has more to it than originally shown, but still not nearly enough imo.
If Robot kit used a Nintendo IP like Fox or something (I know they're not doing this), then I'd be like "okay, yeah that's why it costs more and that's what its appeal is supposed to be."
 
Gotdatmoney

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Aters said:
They ditched both sides and made something entirely new out of them. Look at Switch 2017 lineup, it looked like a Nintendo console lineup, not a Nintendo handheld one.
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Since the 3DS Nintendo consoles and Nintendo handhelds have had pretty much the same lineups. The consoles get bigger Zelda games. That's about it.
 
silpheed-mcd

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ComG! Week Sales, 2018 (April 02 - April 08)

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01/05 [NSW] Kirby Star Allies - 61 pt (-1 pt)
02/01 [PS4] Far Cry 5 - 55 pt (-109 pt)
03/09 [PS4] Shining Resonance Refrain (normal version) - 38 pt (+18 pt)
04/03 [PS4] Super Robot Wars X - 18 pt (-63 pt)
05/16 [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 18 pt (+8 pt)
06/15 [NSW] Splatoon 2 - 16 pt (+6 pt)
07/12 [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Here, where i am? - 14 pt (-2 pt)
08/17 [PS4] Rainbow Six Siege Advanced Edition - 9 pt (+1 pt)
09/ R [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 8 pt
10/07 [3DS] Detective Pikachu - 8 pt (-16 pt)
11/ R [3DS] Mario Party 100 Mini Game Collection - 6 pt
12/ R [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission X - 6 pt
13/06 [PSV] Super Robot Wars X - 6 pt (-52 pt)
14/ R [PS4] GTA V - 6 pt
15/13 [NSW] Hyrule Warriors All Stars DX - 5 pt (-10 pt)
16/ R [NSW] Gal Gun 2 - 5 pt
17/14 [PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4 (normal version) - 4 pt (-6 pt)
18/ R [PS4] Dragon Ball FighterZ - 4 pt
19/ R [NSW] Attack On Titan 2 - 4 pt
20/ R [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 4 pt


NSW: 8
PS4: 7
3DS: 4
PSV: 1


ComG! Week Sales, 2018 (March 26 - April 01)
https://www.resetera.com/posts/6235341/
 
Mory Dunz

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So with Pax, now Sushi striker looks a bit....more than many expected, I am now actually curious about its sales.


(And I wonder if it has the holy right to be included in endless Switch H1 2018 lineup discussions. Nah probably not. No games till Smash.)
 
Lelouch0612

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silpheed-mcd said:
ComG! Week Sales, 2018 (April 02 - April 08)

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01/05 [NSW] Kirby Star Allies - 61 pt (-1 pt)
02/01 [PS4] Far Cry 5 - 55 pt (-109 pt)
03/09 [PS4] Shining Resonance Refrain (normal version) - 38 pt (+18 pt)
04/03 [PS4] Super Robot Wars X - 18 pt (-63 pt)
05/16 [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 18 pt (+8 pt)
06/15 [NSW] Splatoon 2 - 16 pt (+6 pt)
07/12 [3DS] Sumikko Gurashi: Here, where i am? - 14 pt (-2 pt)
08/17 [PS4] Rainbow Six Siege Advanced Edition - 9 pt (+1 pt)
09/ R [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 8 pt
10/07 [3DS] Detective Pikachu - 8 pt (-16 pt)
11/ R [3DS] Mario Party 100 Mini Game Collection - 6 pt
12/ R [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission X - 6 pt
13/06 [PSV] Super Robot Wars X - 6 pt (-52 pt)
14/ R [PS4] GTA V - 6 pt
15/13 [NSW] Hyrule Warriors All Stars DX - 5 pt (-10 pt)
16/ R [NSW] Gal Gun 2 - 5 pt
17/14 [PS4] Valkyria Chronicles 4 (normal version) - 4 pt (-6 pt)
18/ R [PS4] Dragon Ball FighterZ - 4 pt
19/ R [NSW] Attack On Titan 2 - 4 pt
20/ R [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey - 4 pt


NSW: 8
PS4: 7
3DS: 4
PSV: 1


ComG! Week Sales, 2018 (March 26 - April 01)
https://www.resetera.com/posts/6235341/
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With this software growth for evergreen Switch titles, do you anticipate a growth WoW of HW sales ?
 
Mpl90

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Chris1964 said:
If Bandai Namco passes the stage of late ports and joins other companies to simultaneous releases next year, the competition can't become more direct between Nintendo and Sony in Japan.
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The FY that just started is really when we'll have the possibility to value more properly how much Bandai Namco will back up all their statements about more resources towards the system. Given my own hypotesis from a while ago ( https://www.resetera.com/posts/6151569/ ), these efforts could be both multiplatform titles and exclusives, so it might vary how such support will manifest itself. But yes, as more developers adopt the system, we're going to see competition being more direct between Nintendo and Sony in Japan.

Speaking of the competition, maybe it won't be completely direct, because Nintendo seems to be playing a different game compared to Sony right now: more attention to indies and mid-class software, attracting audiences on different sides of the spectrum (including new and lapsed users) thanks to the versatility of the system v.s. a more traditional console approach. However, playing a different game with its own set of rules doesn't mean such different game doesn't influence the other game Sony is playing, doesn't mean that it can't represent a "more direct" competition. The Nintendo DS played a different game compared to the traditional approach for new systems, but it can't be denied that the system had an impact on ALL the industry and, especially, how it represented a strong focus of Japanese third party developers' attention, attracting resources that, otherwise, would've spent on other, more "traditional" systems.

Mory Dunz and Lelouch0612 : while COMG is showing growth / stability for several Switch games compared to last week, it's still wiser to wait for other retailers' rankings to see if they reflect the same kind of trend.
Anyways, it'll be difficult to see the system being up YOY: hardware goes down starting from the first week of April, usually.
 
casiopao

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Peace said:
RE7 isn't a failure after all ? Or is 5.1 millions not enough to consider the game a success ?

I remember people supporting it to be a failure when it was hype to spit on Capcom, before MHW success story.
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Lol. U are talking about me there after i dont return to that RE thread?^_^

It is all about what u see lol. I put company expectation first vs whatever flimsy objective u set for the title there. Till it beat Cac expectation, for me and some, it is a failure.
 
KtSlime

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Yeah, it seems to me that if you set a goal, and fail to reach that goal, it's kind of a failure. I mean it might not the a giant failure, and it might help you learn about how to approach the matter in the future, but it can't be a success.

Like if I said I was going to complete marathon, and then only ran 30km, I don't think anyone would say I succeeded and completed the marathon. Right?
 
Aters

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Prototype Viktor said:
yet the switch is still a handheld for everyone outside of Nintendo putting stuff on it
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Not sure if it's entirely true. A lot of ports, such as DQXI, VC4, XV2, Mousou, Dark Souls, Disgaea 5 are console games, not to mention Doom, Wolfenstein, Skyrim.

Gotdatmoney said:
Since the 3DS Nintendo consoles and Nintendo handhelds have had pretty much the same lineups. The consoles get bigger Zelda games. That's about it.
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I'd call Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 DX, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 console games, or at least I'd think that's the case cuz I don't want to feel robbed for paying $60 for handheld games.

Also, we are getting hell lotta WiiU ports, where are the 3DS ports?
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19

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The Robot Kit looks way less interesting gameplay wise than the Variety Kit.

Mario Odyssey's production values are insane, wtf are you people talking about with regards to "handheld game."
 
lovecatt

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Code Vein still doesnt have a solid release date does it?

I do wonder what the odds are of a Switch version getting announced considering how leggy Bamco's efforts seem to be in Japan.
 
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lovecatt said:
Code Vein still doesnt have a solid release date does it?

I do wonder what the odds are of a Switch version getting announced considering how leggy Bamco's efforts seem to be in Japan.
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the game was delayed to add multiplayer, so I doubt a Switch version is on their mind right now
 
Fularu

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Aters said:
Not sure if it's entirely true. A lot of ports, such as DQXI, VC4, XV2, Mousou, Dark Souls, Disgaea 5 are console games, not to mention Doom, Wolfenstein, Skyrim.


I'd call Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 DX, Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 console games, or at least I'd think that's the case cuz I don't want to feel robbed for paying $60 for handheld games.

Also, we are getting hell lotta WiiU ports, where are the 3DS ports?
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DQ, VC, DB, Musou and Disgaea all have had handheld entries over the past 15 years. Doom and Wolfenstein were on the GBA 18 years ago. While I'll give you Skyrim it's not exactly the best example you could use since it's a game that works wonderfully in small bites.

The only game I would give you is Splatoon 2, your point really doesn't stand, like, at all.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19

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Fularu said:
DQ, VC, DB, Musou and Disgaea all have had handheld entries over the past 15 years. Doom and Wolfenstein were on the GBA 18 years ago. While I'll give you Skyrim it's not exactly the best example you could use since it's a game that works wonderfully in small bites.

The only game I would give you is Splatoon 2, your point really doesn't stand, like, at all.
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Uncharted and God of War had handheld entries so God of War 2018 and Uncharted 4 are clearly handheld games.

Comparing Wolfenstein 2 to... Wolfenstein GBA is just...
 
Fularu

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Uncharted and God of War had handheld entries so God of War 2018 and Uncharted 4 are clearly handheld games.

Comparing Wolfenstein 2 to... Wolfenstein GBA is just...
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Seeing how I had a tons more fun with the PSP versions of God of War or the Vita version of KillZone...

Yes. See this somehow ludicrous notion that franchises are either "console" or "handheld" franchises or "games" holds no water. People play the games because they are interested in them, not because they can play them on some "big ass screen".
 
Lugia

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I'm really baffled by Bandai decisions. Why is MHA getting a switch version, and One Piece world seeker isn't getting one?
 
skullwaker

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Nice rises for Switch games this week. Not sure if that'll translate to actual sales increases (for HW and SW) but still interesting.
 
Fularu

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Lugia said:
I'm really baffled by Bandai decisions. Why is MHA getting a switch version, and One Piece world seeker isn't getting one?
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I have no doubts World Seeker will show up on Switch down the road, in the "One Piece ; World Seeker For Nintendo Switch" fashion

Just like it will happen for DBFZ and maybe the Ace combat games
 
Lugia

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Fularu said:
I have no doubts World Seeker will show up on Switch down the road, in the "One Piece ; World Seeker For Nintendo Switch" fashion

Just like it will happen for DBFZ and maybe the Ace combat games
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Yeah I think so too.

I think if it gets a simultaneous release it would sell a lot better than the PS4 version. I dont understand how they could ignore a switch version and release it on xbox from a business perspective.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19

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Lugia said:
Yeah I think so too.

I think if it gets a simultaneous release it would sell a lot better than the PS4 version. I dont understand how they could ignore a switch version and release it on xbox from a business perspective.
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It could be that Nintendo just hired all of their talented programmers who could work on the Switch to make Prime 4 and Smash and now Namco doesn't have other programmers to work on porting those games to Switch. That was kind of Nirolak's theory.
 
Fularu

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
It could be that Nintendo just hired all of their talented programmers who could work on the Switch to make Prime 4 and Smash and now Namco doesn't have other programmers to work on porting those games to Switch. That was kind of Nirolak's theory.
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Namco is the number one outsourcing company in Japan.

The majority of their games are outsourced as it is.
 
Aters

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Fularu said:
DQ, VC, DB, Musou and Disgaea all have had handheld entries over the past 15 years. Doom and Wolfenstein were on the GBA 18 years ago. While I'll give you Skyrim it's not exactly the best example you could use since it's a game that works wonderfully in small bites.

The only game I would give you is Splatoon 2, your point really doesn't stand, like, at all.
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I refuse to believe you are arguing in good faith. Doom and Wolfenstein GBA? I might have spent too much time in these threads. Have a good night sir.
 
Fularu

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Aters said:
I refuse to believe you are arguing in good faith. Doom and Wolfenstein GBA? I might have spent too much time in these threads. Have a good night sir.
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Outside of graphics what distinguishes Doom 1993 from Doom 2016? Or Wolfenstein 1992 from Wolfenstein 2017?

Here's the thing, FPS games have been available on handhelds since the GBA (and there were several of them beyond Doom, Doom 2 and Castle Wolfenstein), nothing makes them static experiences at all, the medium they can be experienced on has little relevance, especially for single player experiences (which Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein 2017 are to their core).

Also don'T speak of "arguing in bad faith" if you don't really understand what it means.
 
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Aters said:
I refuse to believe you are arguing in good faith. Doom and Wolfenstein GBA? I might have spent too much time in these threads. Have a good night sir.
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Doom I & II were both on GBA.
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Wolfenstein 3D was also on the GBA.
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These are ports of the PC FPS games

Maybe you DID spend too much time here. The distinction between what is a "console" game and what is a "handheld" game is a meaningless distinction when it comes to what kind of content shows on on a platform or another.

It matters for sales discussion since it determines platforms, but content wise there is no good reason to draw distinctions unless it is to "mark territory".
 
silpheed-mcd

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GEO Ranking Sales, 2018 ( Apr 02 - Apr 08)

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~ 1.200 stores

01/01 [PS4] Far Cry 5
02/04 [NSW] Kirby Star Allies
03/06 [PS4] Attack On Titan 2
04/02 [PS4] Super Robot Wars X
05/05 [PS4] Ninokuni 2 Revenant Kingdom
06/08 [NSW] Splatoon 2
07/09 [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
08/03 [PSV] Super Robot Wars X
09/17 [PS4] Like the North Star
10/16 [PS4] Rainbow Six Siege Advanced Edition
 
Herb Alpert

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Lugia said:
Yeah I think so too.

I think if it gets a simultaneous release it would sell a lot better than the PS4 version. I dont understand how they could ignore a switch version and release it on xbox from a business perspective.
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Cause porting to xbox is easy to do and requires far less work than switch.
PS4 xbox and PC are close to each other and porting between them is easy. Switch is always the outlier eventhough the gap is far narrower than previous generations.
 
Fularu

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Herb Alpert said:
Yeah but porting even a UE4 game isn't magic, it requires optimization to port it to a weaker system like the switch. And code vein is UE 4 too, so far it won't come.
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While that was true for most games released in the past 2 years, anything coming out using UE4 in the next 6-12 months has little excuses for not having integrated the Switch in the pipeline. Unless they just don't want to do it (which is fine, also)
 
Herb Alpert

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Fularu said:
While that was true for most games released in the past 2 years, anything coming out using UE4 in the next 6-12 months has little excuses for not having integrated the Switch in the pipeline. Unless they just don't want to do it (which is fine, also)
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Don't misunderstand me, they definitely should include switch in their pipeline, I think we will see in the coming months if they are serious about the commitment they spoke of. They'll miss an opportunity if they don't.
But in the end, porting to switch demands some budget, to allow it or not depends on the strategy set by the higher ups.
 
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