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halvvapoori

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Hey all! I'm [REDACTED] from the sales (and fire emblem) discord, I go by a different handle here but maybe you already recognised me by the profile pic. For all the others, good to see you all!

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Back on topic, looking forward to the next few weeks for those holiday sales and the performance of ACPC, should be interesting
 
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Zarckoh

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Oct 25, 2017
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Given the increase of mobile gaming and the production values of the new game I feel that Animal Crossing is one of those IPs that has the danger of getting the Nintendogs/Brain Age treatment (basically losing all of the popularity and appeal on traditional platforms while the type of game remains popular in mobile).

The lack of gacha may become a barrier to become a huge hit in Japan. Still it has potential to become quite succesful given the brand and it's mainstream appeal. The phenomenon that is Kemono Friends further confirms how appealing this kind of characters are.
 

Brewster123

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I'm curious to see how Animal Crossing Mobile's monetization holds up. Those pop-up discounts never stopped during the direct (It was kinda annoying to be honest).
 

Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
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"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

Hello all. Figured this should be my first post.

Jusco
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario Display: 2 posters and some display boxes.

Youme Town
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario display: Some flyers and display boxes.

Goody
Switch Hardware: 1 system, used, no box, selling for 43,000.
Lots of used copies of Zelda and a few Splatoon 2.

Best Denki
Switch Hardware: None, but they are offering almost the retail price if you trade one in.
Mario Display: Non-playable (video) kiosk. Display boxes.

Wanpaku
Wanpaku want out of business and was replaced by a store called Game@Net
And... I didn't go there this week.

Famicom Dojo
No longer sells new hardware. But will buy used Switch games and systems.
Will not be getting SMO but is making a display of the retro Marios to try and cash in on the hype.

Yamada Denki
Switch Hardware: Sold out.
Mario Display: Biggest in my town (that I saw this week), posters, video, dedicated area.

Book Off
Didn't go this week. But my friend claims to have seen a used Switch for sale. Didn't know the price. [Useful information!]

NOTES:

1. For those who didn't follow Media Create 10 years ago, this was a collection of anecdotal evidence I would put out each week covering the stores in my small town in Japan. I knew a lot of the shop owners pretty well and many of them would let me count the stock they had of various hardware and software. The data was not very useful on it's own but people could extrapolate or compare it from week to week.

2. I stopped doing these reports because after the DS and Wii there were no hardware shortages and nothing that interesting to report. But Switch is bringing that feeling back.

3. 3DS sections in some stores are contracting a bit to make way for the Switch. Other stores are shrinking the Vita sections. PS4 has remained undisturbed since Switch launch at the store I went to.

4. Xbox One continues to be a non-event. The Book-off for example currently has only one used game for the system in stock. Dead Rising 3. Yamada Denki has a dedicated section but is mostly filled with empty hardware display boxes.

5. I have never seen a Famicom Mini in the wild at retail price. Only used ones going for over retail.

6. LOTS of used Amiibos turning up at stores.

7. eShop point cards are sold out in the smaller denominations at the 7-11 near my house. Only 5000yen cards in stock. I have to say I have never seen that before.

8. It is so great to see everyone. Here is to the next 10 years.
 

Sqrt

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I remember when Ridge Racer was a launch game for every console. Good times.
 
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"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

Hello all. Figured this should be my first post.

Jusco
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario Display: 2 posters and some display boxes.

Youme Town
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario display: Some flyers and display boxes.

Goody
Switch Hardware: 1 system, used, no box, selling for 43,000.
Lots of used copies of Zelda and a few Splatoon 2.

Best Denki
Switch Hardware: None, but they are offering almost the retail price if you trade one in.
Mario Display: Non-playable (video) kiosk. Display boxes.

Wanpaku
Wanpaku want out of business and was replaced by a store called Game@Net
And... I didn't go there this week.

Famicom Dojo
No longer sells new hardware. But will buy used Switch games and systems.
Will not be getting SMO but is making a display of the retro Marios to try and cash in on the hype.

Yamada Denki
Switch Hardware: Sold out.
Mario Display: Biggest in my town (that I saw this week), posters, video, dedicated area.

Book Off
Didn't go this week. But my friend claims to have seen a used Switch for sale. Didn't know the price. [Useful information!]

NOTES:

1. For those who didn't follow Media Create 10 years ago, this was a collection of anecdotal evidence I would put out each week covering the stores in my small town in Japan. I knew a lot of the shop owners pretty well and many of them would let me count the stock they had of various hardware and software. The data was not very useful on it's own but people could extrapolate or compare it from week to week.

2. I stopped doing these reports because after the DS and Wii there were no hardware shortages and nothing that interesting to report. But Switch is bringing that feeling back.

3. 3DS sections in some stores are contracting a bit to make way for the Switch. Other stores are shrinking the Vita sections. PS4 has remained undisturbed since Switch launch at the store I went to.

4. Xbox One continues to be a non-event. The Book-off for example currently has only one used game for the system in stock. Dead Rising 3. Yamada Denki has a dedicated section but is mostly filled with empty hardware display boxes.

5. I have never seen a Famicom Mini in the wild at retail price. Only used ones going for over retail.

6. LOTS of used Amiibos turning up at stores.

7. eShop point cards are sold out in the smaller denominations at the 7-11 near my house. Only 5000yen cards in stock. I have to say I have never seen that before.

8. It is so great to see everyone. Here is to the next 10 years.

Vinnk made it!! So happy to see a new edition of Vinnk's village.
 

rAndom

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nice to see Vinnk's Village in action once again. Thanks for the good work Vinnk!
 

Rainrir

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Nah. Its already at 185K on famitsu with one week of digital sales. I bet it sells more next week with big Switch hardware shipment. It will crawl to 250K LTD eventually IMO.

I apologise. I actually mean to type 200+ k. 250k is certanly doable. I am more thinking what Aquamarine says is in the 400-500 range. The series of tweets from Mochizuki is indeed from a Amir Anvarzade and not from Capcom themselves. However, I do have cause to believe that it is accurate in the sense that this is what Mr Anvarzade was told thse information by Capcom. This is because the he visited Capcom and most likely got the numbers from conversation with Capcom. It is his job to get information to evaluate whether the company is worth buying in or not (he say Buy though :O). BGC partners is reputable firm that goes around visiting major companies (Toshiba was one). These guys even show up on Bloomberg.

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899565438400462849
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899565985400733697
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566288279818240
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566668212445185

The reason why we dismissed these tweets back on NeoGAF was because of the very low estimate of MHW (1.5 million estimate). However, by this logic, 450K sold vs 200k expectations for USF2 would also be tales from the analyst's ass as well. This 450k USF2 sales seems to be widely believed though. What we can see is that right now, if USF2 can have expectations of 200k (which many people would think is too high if they take the product for what it is), then this should be the floor for Capcom's expectations for MHXX a "newer" and more "popular" game on the same platform. It can only go higher from there.

You can argue the expectations are unrealistic due to the headwinds MHXX NSW faces (I certainly do), but that never stopped Capcom assuming the best for USF2...

As for the 1.5 million estimate MHXX, Mochizuki remarked that it is very cautious. Perhaps Mr Anvarzade felt the same and wrote that in his LETTER to Mochizuki (this is written correspondence and not some smokey pub talk). If Capcom did give these numbers, it could due to a myriad of reasons that we might not be in on (they know what the game is better than any of us), there as also no timeline given for these numbers.
 
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Rainrir

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Tbh Bamco misshandled the franchise.

The Vita game was a mobile game in disguise with full on microtransaction mentality. It was insulting to fans of the franchise.

But Japan loves MTX. Look at how well mobile is doing!

The real crime of RR bombing is that Reiko Nagase had to die with RR.

P9L54Fm.jpg



"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

Hello all. Figured this should be my first post.

Jusco
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario Display: 2 posters and some display boxes.

Youme Town
Switch Hardware: 0
Mario display: Some flyers and display boxes.

Goody
Switch Hardware: 1 system, used, no box, selling for 43,000.
Lots of used copies of Zelda and a few Splatoon 2.

Best Denki
Switch Hardware: None, but they are offering almost the retail price if you trade one in.
Mario Display: Non-playable (video) kiosk. Display boxes.

Wanpaku
Wanpaku want out of business and was replaced by a store called Game@Net
And... I didn't go there this week.

Famicom Dojo
No longer sells new hardware. But will buy used Switch games and systems.
Will not be getting SMO but is making a display of the retro Marios to try and cash in on the hype.

Yamada Denki
Switch Hardware: Sold out.
Mario Display: Biggest in my town (that I saw this week), posters, video, dedicated area.

Book Off
Didn't go this week. But my friend claims to have seen a used Switch for sale. Didn't know the price. [Useful information!]

NOTES:

1. For those who didn't follow Media Create 10 years ago, this was a collection of anecdotal evidence I would put out each week covering the stores in my small town in Japan. I knew a lot of the shop owners pretty well and many of them would let me count the stock they had of various hardware and software. The data was not very useful on it's own but people could extrapolate or compare it from week to week.

2. I stopped doing these reports because after the DS and Wii there were no hardware shortages and nothing that interesting to report. But Switch is bringing that feeling back.

3. 3DS sections in some stores are contracting a bit to make way for the Switch. Other stores are shrinking the Vita sections. PS4 has remained undisturbed since Switch launch at the store I went to.

4. Xbox One continues to be a non-event. The Book-off for example currently has only one used game for the system in stock. Dead Rising 3. Yamada Denki has a dedicated section but is mostly filled with empty hardware display boxes.

5. I have never seen a Famicom Mini in the wild at retail price. Only used ones going for over retail.

6. LOTS of used Amiibos turning up at stores.

7. eShop point cards are sold out in the smaller denominations at the 7-11 near my house. Only 5000yen cards in stock. I have to say I have never seen that before.

8. It is so great to see everyone. Here is to the next 10 years.

Too cool.

Looks like Amiibo's days are limited.
 
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Rainrir

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It has steadily comprised a healthy chunk of Square Enix's domestic mobile revenue over the long-term, accelerating marketshare in certain key months (like June)...which bodes incredibly well for the solvency of the Star Ocean IP going forward.

I think the issue is also one of product quality and where its audience is.

SO5 was terrible, while SOA is regarded as a good mobile game. However, given what we see of both, I can't help to think the latter probably have a bigger budget than the former (which couldn't even afford cut scenes). The underperformance of SO5 made us think SO is dead, but one reason is probably due it being a bad product.

As for the audience problem, I believe people who grew up on SNES/PS1/PS2 era RPGs are now in the late-20s to 40s. In other words, anyone who had nostalgia for the IP are lapsed console gamers who now play on phones. An IP that was an RPG from that era can probably do well assuming sufficient promotion and quality. SOA for example, is quite heavily promoted on TV during "otaku" time slots in Japan. BOF on the other hand.

The dominating apps in Japan are all some type of RPG with gacha mechanics. This tells me the crowd that grew up with SNES/PS1/PS2 RPGs have all moved to phones these days.
 
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Vinnk

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Oct 26, 2017
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Nice to see Vinnk's Village in action once again. Thanks for the good work Vinnk!
Vinnk made it!! So happy to see a new edition of Vinnk's village.

Thank you!

Wow, so many memories. I started lurking on GAF in 2005, and I was in high school; now I'm getting a PhD, lol.

Btw, how's the buzz among kids? Are they still playing with 3DS or is all SwitchSwitchSwitch?
Wow, so many memories. I started lurking on GAF in 2005, and I was in high school; now I'm getting a PhD, lol.

Btw, how's the buzz among kids? Are they still playing with 3DS or is all SwitchSwitchSwitch?

They are talking about the Switch a lot and some of the kids have gotten one with Splatoon 2. But for the most part it is still impossible to buy and a bit too expensive to get outside of a holiday time.

3DS is still the system kids are playing. But the Switch is what they are wanting to play.

Also the PS4 is doing pretty well with the older kids. But mostly as a Minecraft/Anime Games system.

Great to have these! Love to mix and match anecdotal evidence to enrich partial statistical evidence, your reports are a great source for this! Glad you're in, here's to many years on ResetEra!

Thanks a lot I still question the actual usefulness of the VV Report but I hope it has some entertainment value.
 

Rainrir

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Thank you!
They are talking about the Switch a lot and some of the kids have gotten one with Splatoon 2. But for the most part it is still impossible to buy and a bit too expensive to get outside of a holiday time.

3DS is still the system kids are playing. But the Switch is what they are wanting to play.

Also the PS4 is doing pretty well with the older kids. But mostly as a Minecraft/Anime Games system.

What happens when the Switch gets all them anime games? :/

Maybe there is a reason for all these Bamco port skipping. *Conspiracy Eyes
 

Edge_Maverick

Member
Oct 25, 2017
187
Star Ocean: Anamnesis launched its Halloween event and got to #8 in the mobile charts. I think that might be the highest it's ever been since its launch back in December 2016.

Star Ocean really has found a new lease on life on mobile. I'm curious to see if this is one of the Japanese games Square Enix is taking worldwide in the next five months, and also if it has any impact on the rest of their strategy with the brand.
Star Ocean 6 for
mobile Era
confirmed!!!
 

Kresnik

Member
Oct 26, 2017
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Tbh Bamco misshandled the franchise.

The Vita game was a mobile game in disguise with full on microtransaction mentality. It was insulting to fans of the franchise.

I thought Ridge Racer 3D had been the most feature-rich release in ages? It was just the Vita one they they messed up with really.

(And Unbounded I suppose, which was a good game, just not a Ridge Racer game).
 

Mpl90

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Oct 25, 2017
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I apologise. I actually mean to type 200+ k. 250k is certanly doable. I am more thinking what Aquamarine says is in the 400-500 range. The series of tweets from Mochizuki is indeed from a Amir Anvarzade and not from Capcom themselves. However, I do have cause to believe that it is accurate in the sense that this is what Mr Anvarzade was told thse information by Capcom. This is because the he visited Capcom and most likely got the numbers from conversation with Capcom. It is his job to get information to evaluate whether the company is worth buying in or not (he say Buy though :O). BGC partners is reputable firm that goes around visiting major companies (Toshiba was one). These guys even show up on Bloomberg.

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899565438400462849
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899565985400733697
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566288279818240
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/899566668212445185

The reason why we dismissed these tweets back on NeoGAF was because of the very low estimate of MHW (1.5 million estimate). However, by this logic, 450K sold vs 200k expectations for USF2 would also be tales from the analyst's ass as well. This 450k USF2 sales seems to be widely believed though. What we can see is that right now, if USF2 can have expectations of 200k (which many people would think is too high if they take the product for what it is), then this should be the floor for Capcom's expectations for MHXX a "newer" and more "popular" game on the same platform. It can only go higher from there.

You can argue the expectations are unrealistic due to the headwinds MHXX NSW faces (I certainly do), but that never stopped Capcom assuming the best for USF2...

As for the 1.5 million estimate MHXX, Mochizuki remarked that it is very cautious. Perhaps Mr Anvarzade felt the same and wrote that in his LETTER to Mochizuki (this is written correspondence and not some smokey pub talk). If Capcom did give these numbers, it could due to a myriad of reasons that we might not be in on (they know what the game is better than any of us), there as also no timeline given for these numbers.

It's not that it's widely believed. It's that Capcom actually reported 450,000 units as their first month shipment for Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers

http://www./forum/showthread.php?t=1412482&page=1

Sales of each region:

Q: I would like to ask the number of Ultra Street Fighter II The Final Challengers (Ultra Street Fighter II) sold by region.

A: It is 100,000 in Japan and 350,000 in Europe and the United States.

Note: While Capcom stated 100,000 in "Japan", it's probably more correct to assume they were referring to Asia as a whole.
 

Bruno MB

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I was preparing the Prediction League and the upcoming month must one of the saddest Novembers I remember, I am struggling to make a list of 4 or 5 games worth predicting for.

We have Pokémon Sun / Moon, Call of Duty: WWII, Star Wars Battlefront II and what else? And it is not that these shooters are very interesting titles to predict. I guess I will also include Super Mario Odyssey second month.
 
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Alrus

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was going to say, SMO's second month could be interesting to predict. Other than that it's a strangely barren holidays season.
 

Rainrir

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It's not that it's widely believed. It's that Capcom actually reported 450,000 units as their first month shipment for Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers

http://www./forum/showthread.php?t=1412482&page=1



Note: While Capcom stated 100,000 in "Japan", it's probably more correct to assume they were referring to Asia as a whole.

Yeah. This is why I think Mr Anvarzadeh's other numbers might not be too far off the truth, or at least not "tales from his ass"".Numbrs that he learnt from some source at Capcom.

In any case, the numbers might have change since then anyway. Who knows what Capcom expects now...
 

Kaitos

Tens across the board!
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Oct 25, 2017
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Do we have any preorder numbers for Xenoblade 2 yet, or is it still too early?
 

Nocturnal

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"Vinnk's Village" Anecdotal Report

7. eShop point cards are sold out in the smaller denominations at the 7-11 near my house. Only 5000yen cards in stock. I have to say I have never seen that before.

8. It is so great to see everyone. Here is to the next 10 years.

Great to have you here Vinnk,
The anecdotes you provide are absolutely amazing.
Had a question about eShop Point Cards, do you think people are using them for eShop titles that are cheap or retail games like Splatoon 2?

I was preparing the Prediction League and the upcoming month must one of the saddest Novembers I remember, I am struggling to make a list of 4 or 5 games worth predicting for.

We have Pokémon Sun / Moon, Call of Duty: WWII, Star Wars Battlefront II and what else? And it is not that these shooters are very interesting titles to predict. I guess I will also include Super Mario Odyssey second month.

Hey Bruno do you plan to write off the predictions we made last month and the annual ones or will you attempt to provide the results here?
 

sfortunato

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I was preparing the Prediction League and the upcoming month must one of the saddest Novembers I remember, I am struggling to make a list of 4 or 5 games worth predicting for.

We have Pokémon Sun / Moon, Call of Duty: WWII, Star Wars Battlefront II and what else? And it is not that these shooters are very interesting titles to predict. I guess I will also include Super Mario Odyssey second month.

Girls Mode 4? Kirby Battle Deluxe? Even if they might start really slow and then pick up in December.
 

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Girls Mode 4 could be interesting. Nintendo even made two TVCMs for it and we can see if the casual audience is still buying 3DS games.
 

Chris1964

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I was preparing the Prediction League and the upcoming month must one of the saddest Novembers I remember, I am struggling to make a list of 4 or 5 games worth predicting for.

We have Pokémon Sun / Moon, Call of Duty: WWII, Star Wars Battlefront II and what else? And it is not that these shooters are very interesting titles to predict. I guess I will also include Super Mario Odyssey second month.
Switch hardware could be interesting, every other new release will have low sales.
 

Jenoss

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm really looking to know what will happen next week with the numbers of odyssey on the table
 

ggx2ac

Sales Heaven or Sales Hell?
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Gardenscapes and Homescapes are very successful in Japan, and the characters look like this:

The monetization is also very similar to Animal Crossing.

At this point, I guess ACPC would be compared more closely to Homescapes.

There's no gardening that I've noticed that you can do. You can't chop down trees, pull weeds, dig fossils or dig and plant things in ACPC.

You also don't get a pun when you catch a fish, you just get the name, that's it.
 

Chris1964

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Member
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11,155
gamesmaya top 3 for today

1. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (25th Anniversary Special Box) <RPG> (Atlus) {2017.10.26} (¥16.800)
2. [PS4] Ark: Survival Evolved <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.10.26} (¥6.800)
3. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux <RPG> (Atlus) {2017.10.26} (¥6.480)

Good sales and sell-through for these titles, one hour earlier opening tomorrow for Mario.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
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What did XB and XBX end with?

I found this in the archives :

Xenoblade

ComG! preorders, last day: 72 pt
01. / 00. [WII] Xenoblade (Nintendo) - 82.952 / NEW (Media Create)

XBX

ComG! preorders, last day: 69 pt
03./00. [WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.04.29} (¥8.316) - 85.586 / NEW (Media Create)
 

Rainrir

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gamesmaya top 3 for today

1. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux (25th Anniversary Special Box) <RPG> (Atlus) {2017.10.26} (¥16.800)
2. [PS4] Ark: Survival Evolved <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.10.26} (¥6.800)
3. [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey Redux <RPG> (Atlus) {2017.10.26} (¥6.480)

Good sales and sell-through for these titles, one hour earlier opening tomorrow for Mario.

I am surprised that SMT:SJR is doing OK. Expected BOMBA.

Lets see if this is the same everywhere.
 
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