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Kazoku_

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Oct 27, 2017
1,398
Depends how far you want to go, with an inked spiderman theres only so much you can do plus you dont have a background and theres no specific light source.
Right, that's what I found myself running into a lot. Trying to guess the penciler's intent. Jim Lee, who's art I love, is sometimes difficult to nail down as far as lighting. Jorge Jimenez on the other hand is relatively easy to figure out.
 
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XaviConcept

XaviConcept

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Oct 25, 2017
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OK, so this was a good reason to post this, thanks Kazoku_ for getting my ass to do something lol

I've put together 5 of some of my most popular pieces in their original black and white format. You can download thse and use them to practice your digital painting skills! They are high res and printable so this is something I could (and probably should, lol) charge for, but for now I'm going to ignore that because I know it can be hard to find work to practice coloring with and if I can help someone get started that is enough recompense for now.

Since Im potentially going to get this art stolen by people, please do me the favor and:
-Give credit if you share it online, or at least promote the ERA art community! My Twitter is a good place to refer people
-Dont print it in order to sell it
-Dont act like its your art lol
-Show me your work! Would love to help :)

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You can download the .rar with all 5 files here (I tested the link on a browser I wasnt signed up on and I was able to download it, but let me know if you cant)

For your reference, this is how most of these (sans Hanzo) looked when I was done. I try to keep my lineart open ended so that I can manipulate the light source as much as I can when Im rendering. I usually just set these on a multiply layer at 60% opacity and go from there.

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gfxtwin

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Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,159
OK, so this was a good reason to post this, thanks Kazoku_ for getting my ass to do something lol

I've put together 5 of some of my most popular pieces in their original black and white format. You can download thse and use them to practice your digital painting skills! They are high res and printable so this is something I could (and probably should, lol) charge for, but for now I'm going to ignore that because I know it can be hard to find work to practice coloring with and if I can help someone get started that is enough recompense for now.

Since Im potentially going to get this art stolen by people, please do me the favor and:
-Give credit if you share it online, or at least promote the ERA art community! My Twitter is a good place to refer people
-Dont print it in order to sell it
-Dont act like its your art lol
-Show me your work! Would love to help :)

color_practice_pack01.jpg


You can download the .rar with all 5 files here (I tested the link on a browser I wasnt signed up on and I was able to download it, but let me know if you cant)

For your reference, this is how most of these (sans Hanzo) looked when I was done. I try to keep my lineart open ended so that I can manipulate the light source as much as I can when Im rendering. I usually just set these on a multiply layer at 60% opacity and go from there.

xavier-garcia-inktober-15-day-01-title-color1.jpg


tumblr_oy5bp1Fh7w1qed0geo1_540.jpg


tifa_lockhart_web.png


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Love these. I gotta try making paintings with more gesture/movement/etc.
 
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plngsplsh

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,142
Here is a recommendation for people that want to learn to draw and paint, but are not sure if they even enjoy painting or drawing and thus don't want to spend a lot of money on paint and tools just to quit after a few attempts. I recently bought New Art Academy for the 3DS out of a whim. While it might not be optimal for people that strive to become professionals, it seems to be a great tool for starters and hobbyists. You have everything you need to get started at the palm of your hands: step-by-step lessons on color, sketching, etc. and a good digital drawing tool. Here are two examples from lessons I finished recently:

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I actually learned a lot about the process of painting and drawing. Plus: I had a lot of fun, and I now consider applying what I learned to pen and paper.
 

grady

Member
Oct 29, 2017
609
Bournemouth, UK
Haven't made anything in years; this was the first and last sculpture I made: https://www.deviantart.com/art/Burning-tree-451954198

It's pewter metal from old drinking mugs melted down and moulded, the copper tree is made of pipes going down to a gas canister in the base which is what creates the flames; the tree was also formed with copper plating via electrolysis.

I've got some drawings on there too but I really need to get back into it, just haven't had time to focus and practice so I've really slipped in recent years....

Proud of this one, spent a long time on it:

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DramaticYeti

The Fallen
Apr 11, 2018
161
Atlanta, GA
Oh cool, an art thread! I posted this over in the Star Wars community earlier but I figured I'd share it here. This was a piece I did shortly after the series finale of Star Wars Rebels. Kinda like a "what-if" scenario or a continuation of where the story left off.

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Alice

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
5,867
I've been working on this one slowly and steadily, going to do the BG in watercolour, but have no idea how well the moleskine paper will take it. But continuing in Copics would be insanity, since the paper sucks up so much ink.

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If anyone wants to see more WIP parts (I have lineart only for example), just lemme know, only uploaded this one on DA. Buttons and rings are done with Finetec Metallic Watercolours, unfortunately my camera doesn't pick up their gloriousness.
 

plngsplsh

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,142
I'm still not sure, if 3d animation fits into this thread; but as there have been no objections previously, I will just go ahead and post something that I have been working on during the weekend.

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Spaltazar

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,105
how do you move on from practice to actual personal pieces. feels like i am stuck doing bargue exercises and gestural drawing, i feel like i am missing a step, its weird. i feel like i should take a day off from work and just do some weird experimental shit to figure some things out for myself
 
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Hiraeth

Member
Mar 16, 2018
540
London, UK
Hey guys, I'm new here - I've been flicking through some of the great art on show here and decided I'd like to show some of mine. Could anyone possibly recommend me a good image hosting website to use to post my stuff? Thanks in advance.
 

Kazoku_

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,398
Hey guys, I'm new here - I've been flicking through some of the great art on show here and decided I'd like to show some of mine. Could anyone possibly recommend me a good image hosting website to use to post my stuff? Thanks in advance.
Tumblr is pretty good. It's what I'm using.
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,237
A going away present for my friend Rachel who's moving to the UK.

I combined her two favorite things, her dogs and sushi and then made it a weird sci-fi piece. I don't know if she likes sci-fi but I know she likes Rocky Horror but even combining dogs, sushi, and Rocky Horror is too bizarre for me.

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sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Hiiiii. I started doing art in late 2016. I didn't really draw anything before that except stick figures. But an artist friend of mine somehow saw that I had some talent while I was very very carefully doing some photoshop edits of characters for a visual novel, so they taught me stuff. I owe a lot to them and also to Alphonso Dunn, who I've found to be the most helpful. Every artist is unique, so for me Dunn's lessons worked when Proko's and Jazza's didn't. Here's Dunn's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/LighterNoteProd

His book on pen and ink is also really excellent. It answered a lot of questions for me about how to deal with the art process while not being overly prescriptive. I like to make my own exercises and his book let me do that while also teaching me a lot of basics: https://www.amazon.com/Pen-Ink-Drawing-Simple-Guide/dp/0997046538

Anyways, I started digitally but when I switched over to traditional media due to monitor eye-blinding pain, my skills really took off. I have no idea why or if that's even remotely normal.

If anyone else is starting out, what I've found is that every art path for every artist diverges rapidly. I watch and read a lot of stuff by artists, and nobody seems to have learned the same way even if they went to an art school. The only constants I know is (a) work on basics a LOT, and (b) work consistently. I'm chronically ill so "draw everyday" is not good advice for me; but "draw when I can" is what works. And start simple---simple tools. If you have a digital program, make it so you've only got access to a single pressure brush with maybe five tones of gray. I was not pleased when my artist friend told me to do this, but when I did, I learned so much faster. I still have no idea why.

To this day I actually really like doing monochrome works.

This is my latest finished work:

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It's watercolors, colored pencils, and ink. This was done some time in April 2018.

I did this small work earlier in the year for a friend of mine who loves snakes! Um, I know not all people love snakes so I'm gonna try to spoiler this one:

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Snake is ink and colored pencils.

I used to be embarrassed that my style does not tend towards naturalism/photorealism. But I guess we do what we do. Here's a blue jay done in October 2017, I think?

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Ballpoint pen, watercolors, ink, and colored pencil.

Recently I've been learning oil pastels. Here's an iris

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I use a very small palette, so that I can afford top-notch pencils, paints, pastels. I prefer to mix most of my colors, so that works out fine for me. My most common palette is 6 colors plus white, and rarely my palette can go up to an amazing 10 colors. The iris was done with five colors plus white.

It's not that I can't do naturalism:

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My brain just gives no fucks about naturalism.

I don't get bored with exercises. I just focus on how to render the thing, which is interesting all by itself. Taking a 3-d thing and making it a 2-d thing using just strokes? Damn, that's just magic to me every time.

Okay time to art again
 
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XaviConcept

XaviConcept

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Oct 25, 2017
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So many good posts lately! Nice job everybody!

Im in Japan until the end of next week but when I get back I want to take the chance and do some in-depth critiques of some of the art in this thread, Im talking paintovers and everything. I think I'll be able to do about 5 (one per person) so if you want me to give you some thorough input make sure you tag me when you post your art! (Doesnt have to be new work)
 

sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
So many good posts lately! Nice job everybody!

Im in Japan until the end of next week but when I get back I want to take the chance and do some in-depth critiques of some of the art in this thread, Im talking paintovers and everything. I think I'll be able to do about 5 (one per person) so if you want me to give you some thorough input make sure you tag me when you post your art! (Doesnt have to be new work)

Awesome! Please ignore my art, though. I have my artist friend as a hands-off tutor, who is very honest about critique and praise, so others who don't have such a tutor should get the crit slots first.

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Tangent: I have managed to reduce the number of Sakura micron pen widths I'm dependent on down to 4 from 5! This will literally save me $25+ a year. Room for more paper in the budget! Eventually.
 
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madmisterf

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Oct 26, 2017
322
Thanks to everyone for sharing their art, some really nice pieces in this thread.

Hiiiii. I started doing art in late 2016. I didn't really draw anything before that except stick figures. But an artist friend of mine somehow saw that I had some talent while I was very very carefully doing some photoshop edits of characters for a visual novel, so they taught me stuff. I owe a lot to them and also to Alphonso Dunn, who I've found to be the most helpful. Every artist is unique, so for me Dunn's lessons worked when Proko's and Jazza's didn't. Here's Dunn's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/LighterNoteProd

His book on pen and ink is also really excellent. It answered a lot of questions for me about how to deal with the art process while not being overly prescriptive. I like to make my own exercises and his book let me do that while also teaching me a lot of basics: https://www.amazon.com/Pen-Ink-Drawing-Simple-Guide/dp/0997046538

Fellow Alphonso Dunn fan here! Anyone who's interested in pen and ink should definitely check out his YouTube channel.

I wish I discovered his videos a bit later though. I've only been drawing for two months and was following an online course on fundamentals when I stumbled upon his channel. Since then I've fallen in love with technical pens and am having a hard time going back to the course, which is based on pencil drawing. I've also fallen into the bad habit of spending the only time I can spare on art by doodling with pens instead of moving on the next lessons, so I haven't been making any progress these past few weeks.

Hopefully, this thread will be a source of motivation and I'll be able to post proper drawings soon enough. Huge thanks to the OP for the thread and to Wulfric for the resources on art studies.
 

sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Hi madmisterf !

I think perhaps you should do your pencil lessons using pen. Because there is nothing magic about using a pencil to first learn art. If you love pen and ink, learn pencils later, and learn your fundamentals using pen and ink as the medium. The only thing you'll miss is the lack of an eraser, but if you want to a white gel ink pen can make up for that.

I cut my artist teeth on pen and ink and Dunn. I felt bad at first, for a long time, that pencils caused asthma and that meant that somehow I wasn't being a proper art student, using them to learn. But then I realized: f that noise. If I can learn my fundamentals with pen and ink, that works just as well.

It's not like graphite pencils were always around at every single art period in history.
 

Duane

Unshakable Resolve
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
6,448
I'm so rusty, but a friend and I decided to draw Avengers characters each day for the five days counting down to the movie on Thursday. Here's mine from yesterday and the day before.


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Duane

Unshakable Resolve
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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3:

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When I don't draw regularly for a while, I notice all my shapes and figures get so stiff (like these). I tend to get more fast and loose when I'm drawing every day, and it's better stuff as a result.
 

sinopiasaur

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Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Duane - Really love #3! Good composition, very dynamic pose, and the background serves the subject well.

I try to draw regularly (every day less possible for me due to chronic illness, so I just draw whenever I get a chance to do so) as well. Missing a week sucks even if I have to do the skip. Even if all I do is shade a few spheres that seems to help.
 

Duane

Unshakable Resolve
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Duane - Really love #3! Good composition, very dynamic pose, and the background serves the subject well.

I try to draw regularly (every day less possible for me due to chronic illness, so I just draw whenever I get a chance to do so) as well. Missing a week sucks even if I have to do the skip. Even if all I do is shade a few spheres that seems to help.


Thanks! Yeah, I know what you mean... I can feel myself shaking a little rust off.

Here's last night's. Decided to skip the ink on this one, just pencil > scan > color.


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Kazoku_

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Oct 27, 2017
1,398
You guys are killing it!

Catwoman by Unknown, colors mine

Justice League cover by Jorge Jimenez, colors mine, wip. Couldn't find a higher resolution image of this one :/

Edit: Going to have to find a way to digitize my sketches. I tried sketching electronically. It felt foreign. Couldn't produce anything satisfying...

Edit 2: Updated the JL cover. Trying to make sure that it doesn't look too much like the official cover. Thanks for the resources sinopiosaur!

Edit 3: Added WW and Martian Manhunter. On to Mr. Stewart.

Edit 4: GOOD NEWS! Almost wrapped. Only need Hawkgirl, fireground and 'stitching' to connect the layers and I'm finished. If I can maintain the current level of personal stress I should be finished by tomorrow.

Edit 5: Halfway done with Hawkgirl. Hard work is about to begin. I'm doodoo at backgrounds...

Edit 6: Almost done. Got to get the details finished.Batman looking sloppy...
Edit 7: Finished (Yay!) image below.
 
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sinopiasaur

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Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
You guys are killing it

So are you! :D Superman especially is very well colored here, I think! He really pops as a superhero should without being garish. Good job!

Edit: Going to have to find a way to digitize my sketches. I tried sketching electronically. It felt foreign. Couldn't produce anything satisfying...

There's a couple of ways to do this. First, of course, is a scanner, but if you have a smartphone camera it likely is able to do this also. If your sketch is less than a US letter page in size (and about half a US letter page, to smaller is best for this approach), go install Google Photoscan. It does a little magic with multiple shots to manipulate the photo to remove glare and straighten it out, as if you could hold your phone perfectly straight. Might take a few tries to find an optimal distance to hold your camera for the best effect, but this I've used v successfully in the past.

For a larger piece, around US letter to 9x12 and possibly larger depending, I use a sort of structure to sit my phone on facing downwards but with the camera lens pointing down unobscured. Then I put the drawing/painting under it, and take a picture that way. This can be a stack of books but for me the most convenient and cheap way was a "Fopydo" stand: http://fopydo.com/ (it's available on Amazon as well if your prefer to order through there).

I'll note that most scanners have a tendency to fuck up colors in ways that are difficult to correct even with Photoshop. So if you have a scanner, they are best used on black and white pieces and likely grayscale as well. So these days I prefer to use photographs.

If you need to additionally isolate the linework from its background, download MediBang Paint (free for Windows and Mac, also has a different mobile edition) for the desktop. One of the menus has an item to extract lines. It weirdly works better than Clip Studio Paint EX (you have to upgrade CSP to a professional version to get access to extracting lines). I'll see if I can dig up an old blog post with pictures...

UPDATE Couldn't find the blog post but here's some demo pics, linked:

http://files.avajarvisart.com/2018/medibang-1.png - Here I've loaded up a sketch from last night. Note how the sketch photograph is not cleanly lit, though decently lit. Also this is a soft pencil sketch, usually difficult to select properly to isolate. This will not matter too much to MediBang.

http://files.avajarvisart.com/2018/medibang-2.png - Extracting lines is under Filter menu...

http://files.avajarvisart.com/2018/medibang-3.png - Almost done! You can move the slider if you like to get it just right, but for me it usually hits it right the first time. Even with fuzzy pencil drawings.

http://files.avajarvisart.com/2018/medibang-4.png - Here I'm demonstrating that the filtered layer is now transparent by adding a magenta layer beneath it. I notice I accidentally hit the brush tool (round black dot on the left) and accidentally did an incorrect paint fill previously (if you want paint bucket to fill a layer regardless of what's going on in the rest of the pic, change the upper tool option bar to say "Reference: Layer"). But you get the idea.

Look at that. Messy pencil sketch, fuckin' perfect line extraction. FOR FREE. (With ads, apparently, but they aren't annoying to me.)
 
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Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
26,089
Did me a self-portrait. Using a black and white charcoal and some pastel. It's based on a photo similar to the one in my avatar (they're both from the same shoot I did). Difference being some different lighting and the head tilted at a more downward angle.

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sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Still doing little drawings and studies of Svalbard reindeer. It's actually nice to immerse myself into getting into the details of one very specific particular subject, because I started to figure out things I hadn't been able to up until. And that I wouldn't have been able to for a long time if I'd just kept drawing entirely different subjects every single time.

Note: I'm not drawing a single deer, but multiple deer individuals in the Svalbard region.

I started to wonder what I could do without relying on a direct reference, and just pulling from what I'd learned drawing a bunch of deer from direct reference:

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This is really close to an amalgamation of two reference pictures.

So after another day of rest because being chronically ill sucks, I looked up some John Muir Laws stuff about drawing mammals, and then decided to build up a personal armature of a Svalbard reindeer.

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This obviously isn't an accurate skeleton, but it helps me to get the major masses visualized. I believe here the neck is not stocky enough on reflection today, so I'll need to refine it.

But the armature let me think of the deer as a volume, basically, so I was able to turn the deer around in my head and draw it from various angles:

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Done without direct reference at all. Which is good, because there are not that many public domain or creative commons attribution or even share-alike references available for little chubby Svalbard reindeer. I still need to work out wtf to do with antlers in perspective.

(Note that I'm not interested in exact perspective, because my preferred styles don't rely on perspective. However, being able to visualize a deer from multiple angles and poses means I can create better compositions of these animals, and that IS important to me.)

Finally I took to sepia ink instead of pencils and drew one of these deer with a large amount of foreshortening:

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I still haven't worked out what hatching style works out best for what I want to do. I feel the top of the head (ears, antler bottoms, etc) isn't quite right, plus the aforementioned how-do-I-antler. Lots more stuff to work out. More drawings of little chubby deer this week.

I note that this is the first time I've created my own armature and been able to rotate it and pose it. If there's something I've been learning about figure drawing of humans, it's that you have to create your own armature to form the rest of the figure around it. There are a lot of ways to create that base "skeleton" but you have to pick one that's attuned to you.

Note: just noticed the back-most leg isn't correct placed. More to work on!
 
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Pocket Sand

Member
Jan 8, 2018
266
New Jersey
Just recently got into the hobby of making art and such glad I found this thread! Dont really have a focus with what I draw I really just draw whatever comes to mind since Im still really new to it all Im just trying to find what works for me I suppose.
The first one is a drawing I did of Ding Dong's character Tough Bippy and the second is a sketch of Kamen Rider build Ive been picking up from time to time which is still a work in progress. I have to re do the head completely cause the head and the body were done at two complete different times and that head is just WOOF someone turned on big head mode. Both of these were done off of Procreate.

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sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Been super sick and exhausted, so not drawing today. Yesterday figured out some stuff though!

In particular, antlers.

Here's another foreshortened svalbard reindeer. You can see the initial incorrect antlers, with the better, larger antlers draw on top.

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As it turns out, antlers aren't on a single plane, but curve through three dimensions. In reindeer, their base angles outwards from the forehead instead of straight-on.

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I ran the armature and new knowledge of neck, back legs, and antlers through another test, and then added scenic elements to see how I might elevate these sketches to a full-fledged piece of art. You can visibly see the armature as light sepia oil pencils, with ballpoint pen inks on top. Also, these antlers are in velvet, so they're stockier than the usually spindly exposed antlers of Svalbard reindeer:

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Next stop is thumbnails for a fuller piece. Eventually I want to create a series of Svalbard reindeer pieces. Although I want to do a spread with some of the research I've been doing on the Svalbard reindeer.

I still do take breaks for smaller studies. I'm doing my best to burn through as many sketchbook pages as possible, and drawing from memory (combined with extended observation). Like that time years ago I found out at what stage of a white mushroom one should not eat them:

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sinopiasaur

Member
Apr 17, 2018
179
WA, USA
Nobody has been taking up Raging Spaniard yet on the crit offers, so I suppose I will. ^_^

I don't know which art style is best to present to you. Some of my styles have a tendency to result in "your art sucks full stop, go away" critique so I'm really nervous.... but let's try this more conventional piece from November 2017:

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Ballpoint pen (one with document-archival ink), watercolors, archival white gel ink, and gouache, with colored pencil touches.

Edit to add what I desired to express with this piece (for help with crits): I'm aiming for a quaint, down-to-earth look and feel for this little magic shop. In particular, I wanted to envision the type of magic shop that would be present in, say, a fantasy animated movie where magic was just accepted and part of a more modern period (like late 20th century at least), and where the setting is a small town in such a world. One of my fondest memories is of the little main street shops on the island where I live, with little plant additions to the outside and a nice place to sit. My biggest problem I feel is that some of the shop window shelves need... more. I don't think I had a very cohesive sense of what I wanted to be in the shop, or what they would look like. Also that cat didn't quite work.
 
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