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Zippedpinhead

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Oct 25, 2017
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This comrade is not understanding what comrade Pat means. Could he clarify?
Yeah we already know from Stuart's role PM that NK's are done by player name not by Token.

Frankly Token claiming wouldn't hurt us at some point, it would allow us to maybe eliminate who could have performed NKs on nights past the first two (first two were obviously done by Grizzly since unlimited range). I am NOT advocating this now, just its the reason to do it in the future.
somehow i missed your reads on Sophia aswell as on Ketkat.
i would very much like to hear what you have to offer.

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Feather step

Your turn!
was this directed to me or to Empressdonna?
 

Ketkat

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,727
Yeah we already know from Stuart's role PM that NK's are done by player name not by Token.

Frankly Token claiming wouldn't hurt us at some point, it would allow us to maybe eliminate who could have performed NKs on nights past the first two (first two were obviously done by Grizzly since unlimited range). I am NOT advocating this now, just its the reason to do it in the future.

was this directed to me or to Empressdonna?

No, claiming our tokens is not a good idea. Stuart's role was targeting players, but only within 12 spaces of himself. If we reveal our tokens, then we're just opening ourselves up to be killed.
 

Zippedpinhead

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,749
Has comrade Zipped managed to obtain a cheat sheet that tells all the ranges the capitalist team has? If so, please tell to the rest of the workers!
It's in Stuart's Role PM

Actions - you may perform one action per night
Submit the Command Blacklist:[Token] to investigate. Your Range is 12 spaces
You may submit the Kill Command. Kill:[PLAYER] Your Range is 12 spaces, if your target is not in Range you will miss.
You can also Vote
 

Android Sophia

The Absolute Sword
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,124
if it helps us to avoid lynching townies and get a Scum, I am for claims. We essentially got Stuart in a 1 for 1 on day 2.

I mean, that makes sense at endgame.. but it doesn't appear we're at endgame, I don't think? You make it sound you know claiming would help us avoid a mislynch...?

No, claiming our tokens is not a good idea. Stuart's role was targeting players, but only within 12 spaces of himself. If we reveal our tokens, then we're just opening ourselves up to be killed.

I agree with this.
 

nin

Asked Politely
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
7,159
Yeah we already know from Stuart's role PM that NK's are done by player name not by Token.

Frankly Token claiming wouldn't hurt us at some point, it would allow us to maybe eliminate who could have performed NKs on nights past the first two (first two were obviously done by Grizzly since unlimited range). I am NOT advocating this now, just its the reason to do it in the future.

was this directed to me or to Empressdonna?

you course. i offered you a dance
 

Zippedpinhead

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Oct 25, 2017
10,749
No, claiming our tokens is not a good idea. Stuart's role was targeting players, but only within 12 spaces of himself. If we reveal our tokens, then we're just opening ourselves up to be killed.
I'm not saying doing it today, I'm saying maybe eventually. and this is assuming all scum have the same Kill space limitation (I can't imagine any of them having between 12 and unlimited range, but its possible that some of them might be shorter)

Take the Hat today, can only be killed by Thimble, Battleship, T-Rex, Lamp and Money bag (purse is jailed). If Hat died, then we know that one of those five is scum.

Similarly if the purse died, then we know that it would have to be the racecar, dog or Hat. Scum wouldn't know until after they did the killing (since it is done by player).

Again, I see it only to benefit town EVENTUALLY, if something like that occurs. I agree it does NOT benefit town to do it right now.
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
Member
Oct 24, 2017
18,438
São Paulo, Brazil
Fandorin how's that "there's scum on the D1 Geno train" theory going?

I kinda get a feeling that this particular line of reasoning may have something to do with why Xbro was killed as well. Maybe to incriminate you, or maybe to make you so uncannily suspicious that people will second-guess themselves. Which is it?
 

empressdonna

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Oct 25, 2017
1,096
Scotland, United Kingdom
empressdonna when you can, please give me your thoughts on Kalor unvoting off of Stuart444 on D2, and your current general impression of DCPat.

Will post about DCPat once I've had the chance to do some re-reads but as for Kalor:

While his sudden move from Stuart onto Xbro was odd, he did mention that he didn't like how close to turbo we were so it may have been nothing though he could have just unvoted instead of voting on someone else at the time.

So I'm not too sure what to think about him but I don't think his voting off of Stuart necessarily but it's something to keep in mind for now while we see how day 4 rolls out.
 

Kyanrute

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Oct 25, 2017
3,629
Tomato
I don't but I can't imagine that our great game moderator has ranges between 12 and unlimited (say 18 spaces). Why have limits on scum at all if three of the four/five scum can affect more than half the board?

This comrade would personally flip the question around. Why is it likely to have ranges between 12 and unlimited? For the same reason why it was possible for comrade Apollo's role to be a capitalist role: coverage against death by RNG. Of course, who knows if the General Secretary and the Party Committee shared this concern, so without a grand proletariat reveal-it-all I think answering the range question is unfeasible at this point.
 

Zippedpinhead

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Oct 25, 2017
10,749
you course. i offered you a dance
I don't know if I have ever posted a read on Sophia. I will get on that once I am home. Ketkat had me going yesterday as far as votes, where I thought she might be scum, but I have to reread how the end of day went.

This comrade would personally flip the question around. Why is it likely to have ranges between 12 and unlimited? For the same reason why it was possible for comrade Apollo's role to be a capitalist role: coverage against death by RNG. Of course, who knows if the General Secretary and the Party Committee shared this concern, so without a grand proletariat reveal-it-all I think answering the range question is unfeasible at this point.

And you are right, until a reveal it all could conclusively identify who killed a fellow comrade, it is not tenable
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
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Oct 25, 2017
19,631
Weren't you pretty convinced last day that the neutral was a killing power? Was the Day opening post enough to convince you otherwise?

Not to speak for Brazil but I thought the same thing and that was before we knew Xbro did the kill. Once he revealed that, there was no reason to believe in a neutral killer anymore.
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
Member
Oct 24, 2017
18,438
São Paulo, Brazil
Weren't you pretty convinced last day that the neutral was a killing power? Was the Day opening post enough to convince you otherwise?
Uh. The opening day post... and the fact that, between my initial theory and now, a confirmed townie has claimed the mysterious Grizzly kill that was at the center of my hypothesis. I'm sure you remember.
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,343
Well you all seem to be willing to believe me that I'm not a killing power, so I'll take my chances and claim that I'm the neutral right now. Don't really want to be targeted by scum because my predecessor and me seem to be generally townread so far and randomly lose.

Your theory is correct. I need to achieve a certain amount of damage, namely 800+ pounds to win.
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
Member
Oct 24, 2017
18,438
São Paulo, Brazil
Well you all seem to be willing to believe me that I'm not a killing power, so I'll take my chances and claim that I'm the neutral right now. Don't really want to be targeted by scum because my predecessor and me seem to be generally townread so far and randomly lose.

Your theory is correct. I need to achieve a certain amount of damage, namely 800+ pounds to win.
Well, that's interesting. Do you simply leave the game if you achieve your win-con, or do the rest of us lose? :P

Why couldn't you explode a spot on N2? Can you kill someone by accident?
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,343
Well, that's interesting. Do you simply leave the game if you achieve your win-con, or do the rest of us lose? :P

Why couldn't you explode a spot on N2? Can you kill someone by accident?
If I win, I leave the game.

If between the time I set a bomb and the bomb explodes somebody lands on that spot, it gets defused automatically. That happened with the second bomb Nicole placed. As such it also can't kill anybody, anyone going on that space defuses it.
 

empressdonna

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,096
Scotland, United Kingdom
What for? I'm not a danger to anybody and best case I'm gone tomorrow. Why would they waste a NK on me?

There's no reason to waste it no, but if they thought you were within range and was the best bet they could though this is unlikely with their cop dead.

But I was just pointing out that it doesn't prevent you from getting NKed but it most likely prevents you from getting lynched unless someone counterclaims at least.
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,631
If I win, I leave the game.

If between the time I set a bomb and the bomb explodes somebody lands on that spot, it gets defused automatically. That happened with the second bomb Nicole placed. As such it also can't kill anybody, anyone going on that space defuses it.

Do you know if anything happens if someone lands on a blown up space? Is it just a normal space?
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
Member
Oct 24, 2017
18,438
São Paulo, Brazil
If I win, I leave the game.

If between the time I set a bomb and the bomb explodes somebody lands on that spot, it gets defused automatically. That happened with the second bomb Nicole placed. As such it also can't kill anybody, anyone going on that space defuses it.
I think the fact that fact that a bomb didn't go off on N2 gives you a lot of credit. Without that, I'd be suspecting that you didn't kill someone with the explosions by mere chance.

Do you know what happens to the exploded spots? Do we simply jump to the next one over if we're supposed to land on them?

Also, do you know what spot Nicole targeted on N2?
 

Muffin

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Oct 26, 2017
10,343
Also, do you know what spot Nicole targeted on N2?
So this is weird and I asked Faddy, and he only gave me a vague answer. Nicole also targeted Mayfair in Night 1. But nobody landed on it afterwards to defuse it, so I was confused. Then I realized that the horse was on Mayfair since Day 1 Start, so Nicole set the bomb there and it got defused immedatiely before Day 2 even started, since the horse was still there at that night. At least that's what I'm assuming.
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,343
If you're confused how Nicole could target Boston Street (I think that's what it was called), my role has a special modifier that I can send my first target at "Night 0" before Day 1 starts.
 

Muffin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
10,343
So it's not

N1: Set bomb
D2: Explode bomb

but

N0: Set Bomb
D1: Nothing
N1: Set next bomb
D2: First bomb explodes
 

Android Sophia

The Absolute Sword
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,124
Gonna be on and off for the remainder of the real life day. I'll try and chime in when I can, but I don't feel good right now, sorry.

I can't think of any specific questions for Muffin either that haven't been already asked. Brazil asked the two I wanted to hear earlier.
 

Fandorin

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,356
On mobile right now going home.

At first glance I buy Muffin's claim. Bringing it up today makes sense if he's telling the truth, and so I'm willing to believe his win condition is just that.
 

Zippedpinhead

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,749
I'll buy muffins claim for the day. It makes sense.

Now if no one lands at Mayfair and you don't leave tomorrow...

But it probably won't come to that so why lie?
 
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