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Canada PoliERA |OT| Two Years of Sunny Days? That’s Scheer Madness!
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so, weird, dumb question, but is it possible to have a membership for more then one political party, and have a say in voting for leadership, or are you only allowed to be involved with one?
I think all of them say you can't, but I guess there's also no way for them to check.
This year I held both a CPC and NDP membership concurrently.
Just realized my membership in CPC lapsed. Oh no! Signed up to the red team now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like I can't "technically" be a member of the federal Liberals and provincial NDP because the NDP provincial parties are technically part of the same organization as the federal NDP? From what I gather, no ones going to check whether or not I give money to two parties but it's actually against party rules? If so...that's a knock against the way the NDP is organized in my eyes and another reason why provincial parties sharing names with federal parties seems stupid to me.
Also; to add to this. Recurring payments give me the option of a party donation and a riding association donation. Any thoughts on that? My riding is not competitive at all, so money spent in my riding seems like money wasted, though I can understand that tides change slowly so it's important to make baby steps I suppose.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like I can't "technically" be a member of the federal Liberals and provincial NDP because the NDP provincial parties are technically part of the same organization as the federal NDP? From what I gather, no ones going to check whether or not I give money to two parties but it's actually against party rules? If so...that's a knock against the way the NDP is organized in my eyes and another reason why provincial parties sharing names with federal parties seems stupid to me.
Also; to add to this. Recurring payments give me the option of a party donation and a riding association donation. Any thoughts on that? My riding is not competitive at all, so money spent in my riding seems like money wasted, though I can understand that tides change slowly so it's important to make baby steps I suppose.
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Not that I'm generally inclined to give a lot of Khadr's opponents the benefit of the doubt on race issues, but it is fair to note that Khadr was a combatant and was alleged to have killed someone. Spy Kid is just a kid whose parents were spies.
First Qc poll of 2018 where the CAQ takes a dip in April after hitting its ceiling in March:
https://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/524891/sondage-leger-lcn-la-caq-en-perte-de-vitesse
Comparing April 2018 from March 2018
CAQ 34 % down 3 from 37 %
PLQ 29 % up 3 from 26 %
PQ 21 % down 1 from 22 %
QS 9 % unchanged 9 %
https://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/524891/sondage-leger-lcn-la-caq-en-perte-de-vitesse
Comparing April 2018 from March 2018
CAQ 34 % down 3 from 37 %
PLQ 29 % up 3 from 26 %
PQ 21 % down 1 from 22 %
QS 9 % unchanged 9 %
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On the other hand, those tribunals fucked up so hard on Khadr's case that I don't believe a single thing that's said on either side of that 'debate'. I just stick with "we don't know" and might as well pay him back for something that the government would have lost anyway.
IMO the Government should have fought in court no matter the cost
June will be a craaaazy month for elections if Singh pulls the trigger. I feel like he's caught between a rock and a hard place. He needs to be in Parliament, and yet there are few seats up for grabs that he's viable in in bye elections.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/04/11/jagmeet-singh-mulcair-outremont-2018_a_23409035/
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/04/11/jagmeet-singh-mulcair-outremont-2018_a_23409035/
Althia Raj always on point (I love her).
Mulcair's name recognition comes from being a Provincial MNA more than being NDP leader.
Singh being an Onatrio MLA makes it really weird transcending Provinces; it's unusual.
one thing she forgot to point out is that Quebec is presently in an election year with Religious Symbols are front and center in the news.
The JdM and TVA beats that drum daily; the CAQ and the PQ are running hard against religious symbols.
The Francohpone media here can be very volatile.
This is a crappy cartoon from Le Devoir, a Left-Separatist leaning newspaper loved by "intellectuals."
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now this one is from PKP's more Right leaning natioanlist paper loved by "the working class"
Mulcair's name recognition comes from being a Provincial MNA more than being NDP leader.
Singh being an Onatrio MLA makes it really weird transcending Provinces; it's unusual.
one thing she forgot to point out is that Quebec is presently in an election year with Religious Symbols are front and center in the news.
The JdM and TVA beats that drum daily; the CAQ and the PQ are running hard against religious symbols.
The Francohpone media here can be very volatile.
This is a crappy cartoon from Le Devoir, a Left-Separatist leaning newspaper loved by "intellectuals."
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now this one is from PKP's more Right leaning natioanlist paper loved by "the working class"
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Why do you hate hard-working farmers? They literally put food on our tables, and you want to make them compete with huge American conglomerates.
...imagine that, but funded by some of the best-funded ads and lobbying in Canada. *That* is why the NDP isn't going to take on supply management. It's an issue that can get very emotional very easily, and there's no indication that Canadians are particularly receptive to the anti-supply management side.
1) Like others said, technically, you aren't supposed to join multiple parties, and the NDP sharing membership lists adds a federal-provincial wrinkle, but there's no way for them to find out.
2) Baby steps are important, so it can't hurt to help grow the party in your riding. That said, if you think your money would be more valuable elsewhere, you can always call LPC HQ and have a monthly donation going to a riding where you think it would make more of a difference. The donation limits for the party and the riding are actually separate -- there's one limit on how much you can give to a registered party, and another on how much you can give to an Electoral District Association (plus another for nomination contests in ridings, and another for leadership contestants). Both are $1,550, but you'd be able to hit the maximum on one and still give to the other.
Tiktaalik was saying a few pages ago that it's looking less likely that Don Davies is going to run for mayor (or, at least, that was the impression I had from what he posted -- Tik, correct me if I'm wrong), so that removes Vancouver Kingsway as probably the best/safest option for Singh to get into Parliament. I think he has to decide whether he's more damaged by not being in Parliament, or losing a very expensive by-election. I see the argument for running in Outremont (it shows the NDP isn't accepting defeat in the province just yet), but at the same time, losing a by-election can taint a candidate, and Singh isn't in a position where he can afford that kind of visible (and expensive) loss.
The date to keep an eye on is April 16th and onward. April 16th is the deadline that Vancouver's ruling (vaguely NDP affiliated) Vision Vancouver party has set for mayoral candidates. This would be the party that a high profile federal NDP MP would run for.
Weirdly there's a good chance that Vision won't end up with any takers for the job.
Vancouver has been in the midst of a full on speculative housing crisis for years, and although municipal governments have the smallest ability out of all levels of government to fix this issue, they have somehow taken a huge amount of the blame. Accordingly Vancouver's Mayor Gregor Robertson has declined to run again[1] as have several other councillors and mayors in Metro Vancouver cities.
Due to the fact that Vision has (fairly or not) wound up with a soiled brand, there has been some attempts by the various left of centre parties and independents to find a consensus Independent candidate so that they don't split the vote and resultantly open the door for a right of centre Mayor[2]. Shauna Sylvester appears to be that person, though many left wing observers[3] feel that she's hardly an independent and is in fact a stealth Vision mayoral candidate given that she has on occasion been involved with that party.
I have no idea what is going to happen but it is currently quite odd in that few seem interested in being councillor or mayor in Vancouver. The election is in October, so I expect things will be sorted by at least June.
[1] There has been some speculation for a while now that Vancouver Centre MP Hedy Fry will be retiring and the Liberal party could be interested in him to run in 2019.
[2] This exact thing happened during a recent rare councillor byelection where the sole right of centre candidate won against a field of four left wing councillors.
[3] Left wing of the NDP affiliated party? Oh of course Vision is considered to be centrist, developer owned shills by many left wing and further left wing politicos and activists. There's a reason they call it the Left Coast...
Weirdly there's a good chance that Vision won't end up with any takers for the job.
Vancouver has been in the midst of a full on speculative housing crisis for years, and although municipal governments have the smallest ability out of all levels of government to fix this issue, they have somehow taken a huge amount of the blame. Accordingly Vancouver's Mayor Gregor Robertson has declined to run again[1] as have several other councillors and mayors in Metro Vancouver cities.
Due to the fact that Vision has (fairly or not) wound up with a soiled brand, there has been some attempts by the various left of centre parties and independents to find a consensus Independent candidate so that they don't split the vote and resultantly open the door for a right of centre Mayor[2]. Shauna Sylvester appears to be that person, though many left wing observers[3] feel that she's hardly an independent and is in fact a stealth Vision mayoral candidate given that she has on occasion been involved with that party.
I have no idea what is going to happen but it is currently quite odd in that few seem interested in being councillor or mayor in Vancouver. The election is in October, so I expect things will be sorted by at least June.
[1] There has been some speculation for a while now that Vancouver Centre MP Hedy Fry will be retiring and the Liberal party could be interested in him to run in 2019.
[2] This exact thing happened during a recent rare councillor byelection where the sole right of centre candidate won against a field of four left wing councillors.
[3] Left wing of the NDP affiliated party? Oh of course Vision is considered to be centrist, developer owned shills by many left wing and further left wing politicos and activists. There's a reason they call it the Left Coast...
TBH Netflix subs should probably have sales tax charged on them. Like, why wouldn't they? Unfortunately it's become a weird wedge issue.
Thanks for your insight, this is very helpful. My riding historically votes 60-65% CPC. There are some very close ridings here where money is likely well spent. One went liberal by 1200 votes, and Sohi's riding where he won by less than 100.
Untrue: but he could just text these tweets to Rachel Curran and then everyone would be happy.
True. Who really wants to hear from him? I guess a sizeable proportion of the CPC base but thats it. Should just stay quiet and then everyone will be happy, CPC voters have Sheer and the rest of us don't have to be reminded of that mistake.
Edit: Oh no. He tweeted about Ryan. Of course he did.
This is really interesting, thanks. I'm surprised to hear about Hedy, but it makes sense -- running for re-election at 78 would be crazy. I imagine the battle for her seat/the LPC nomination is going to be pretty intense.
Disagree. Not only do Conservatives still love him, if he can keep popping up to remind Canadians how odious he is -- and, by extension, how terrible the CPC is -- I'm totally okay with that.
Yeah at various periods of time it's been a somewhat competitive three way riding, but in recent years it seems to have become a solidly safe Liberal seat. I think changing demographics will continue to reinforce this trend. Accordingly I'm sure there's lots of Liberals that would be eager for an easy seat.
At this point Hedy Fry barely does anything at all, has no profile, doesn't campaign, and still wins massively.
Of course Conservatives love him, Im well aware. A god portion probably want him to run again. I meant for people like us in this thread, we would rather he go away. Of course, if he reminds enough voters that he's still around and of what the CPC is still, then by all means he can continue.
Jason Kenney decided to post this to his facebook page today. He pretty much says that the most important women issue is the economy in the video. I wonder who approved this video.
https://www.facebook.com/kenneyjasont/videos/10156222263992641/
https://www.facebook.com/kenneyjasont/videos/10156222263992641/
Appealing to female voters about jobs is easy, hell I could do it. Doing so in a manner that doesn't seem to diminish the other issues they face everyday, making you seem like a jerk is not. Kenney with the swing and the miss here
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/fixed-link-study-results-1.4614188
$1.65B underwater rail link between Newfoundland and Labrador could work, study finds
Pre-feasibility study results announced in St. John's
$1.65B underwater rail link between Newfoundland and Labrador could work, study finds
Pre-feasibility study results announced in St. John's
Lemme translate this here...
Some of these claims are really dubious. What's wrong with the current system, a 1 hour ferry?
From Montreal it would be 41 hours to drive to St John's via the bridge route, while it would only be 33 hours going through Nova Scotia and the ferry there. How on earth would any traffic be taken away from the Cabot Strait ferry???
I posted it for fun
infrastructure is fun
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New Champlain Bridge will require 235m cost overhead to get it done by December (good luck).
REM rail system got it's ceremonial photo-op yesterday initiating the beginning of the new REM construction
infrastructure is fun
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New Champlain Bridge will require 235m cost overhead to get it done by December (good luck).
REM rail system got it's ceremonial photo-op yesterday initiating the beginning of the new REM construction
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Hey man always be posting. It's a discussion forum. More discussion!
I love to chat about provinces building dumb infrastructure.
I just had a look and the population of Labrador is sub 30k. That population number reminds me of another insanely expensive bridge link.
The BC Liberals were pushing for a bridge to the Sunshine Coast (pop ~30k). That would have cost 2.1 - 4.4 billion.
Now arguably there's bigger upside here since it's adjacent to Vancouver and maybe that 30k could balloon to 300k+ but still. Wowzers.
The NDP ended up killing the idea very quickly when they were elected. It wasn't a terribly controversial move given the crazy expense of the bridge.
I love to chat about provinces building dumb infrastructure.
I just had a look and the population of Labrador is sub 30k. That population number reminds me of another insanely expensive bridge link.
The BC Liberals were pushing for a bridge to the Sunshine Coast (pop ~30k). That would have cost 2.1 - 4.4 billion.
Now arguably there's bigger upside here since it's adjacent to Vancouver and maybe that 30k could balloon to 300k+ but still. Wowzers.
The NDP ended up killing the idea very quickly when they were elected. It wasn't a terribly controversial move given the crazy expense of the bridge.
He's not even an MP any more so why does he think he'll be working with a dictator?
Mulcair lost credibility ions ago by lauding praise for Margaret Thatcher.
Liberals stance when it comes the Petrol has not change since the election. The Left says that the Liberals are being wishy washy on oil meanwhile the Right tries to pain the Liberals for being anti-oil.
the current balanced approach on oil IMO is the best approach for Canada
Liberals stance when it comes the Petrol has not change since the election. The Left says that the Liberals are being wishy washy on oil meanwhile the Right tries to pain the Liberals for being anti-oil.
the current balanced approach on oil IMO is the best approach for Canada
I don't know where to stand on the pipelines in general since I haven't looked into it much. To me, if it's safer than whatever else is done to transport the oil in the absence of said pipeline, and doesn't put a precious territory at risk which would otherwise not be exposed to such risk, I could be fine with it.
I don't get why this isn't a federal jurisdiction though. They get the bridges, and railways I think, but not pipelines?
I don't get why this isn't a federal jurisdiction though. They get the bridges, and railways I think, but not pipelines?
Because of what the pipeline carries, oil (or crude or whatever form it would take at the time), which as a natural resource falls under provincial jurisdiction not federal
It's 100% federal, but Horgan/Burnaby/other players don't care.
edit: To elaborate, the project itself is federal, the shipped product in the pipeline is provincial.
The whole thing is all politicking anyway, since the BC government has zero plans to clamp down on coal exports.
But that's just inside the pipeline, not the pipeline itself, and it's not the province's oil either no? That's like if a federal vehicle became a provincial one because it's going through a province. I'm assuming it has nothing to do with natural resources. Milk is a natural resource too.
Nope, inter-provincial pipelines, like railroads, fall under federal jurisdiction. Railcars with natural resources are not under a different jurisdiction than those with other goods, it's the same for pipelines.
Cooperative federalism means provinces can ensure reasonable environmental regulations on the project but given the supply & confidence agreement between the BC NDP and Greens referred to stopping the pipeline it's clear they have no plans to be reasonable. The BC government is just doing the "I'm not touching you" sibling in the car thing, making a lot of noise and threats in the hope that Kinder Morgan will drop out because of the uncertainty.
It's definitely federal jurisdiction. The only argument is around the fact that a province has some rights around its environment and how those rights factor in.
I found this article around how the terminology the BC government has used has subtly, but importantly shifted over time.
Essentially BC clearly doesn't have the powers to stop this pipeline, and it's not lawful for the government of BC to state this. However, it is reasonable for the BC government to "defend BC's coast" and its interests and this is the terminology that the BC government is now using.
I found this article around how the terminology the BC government has used has subtly, but importantly shifted over time.
Essentially BC clearly doesn't have the powers to stop this pipeline, and it's not lawful for the government of BC to state this. However, it is reasonable for the BC government to "defend BC's coast" and its interests and this is the terminology that the BC government is now using.
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