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Oct 25, 2017
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I liked that episode over all, the brothers banter and goofing off with each others is finally returning to the levels that have felt absent for soooo long.
 

Freddy=Legend

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Oct 29, 2017
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Okay, Lucifer interrupting the exorcism & subsequent conversation with the priests was incredible. Hahaha
 
Oct 25, 2017
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hmmmm. Not sure if I like the whole "o look all the people we killed off exist in this parallel universe!!!!!" While I do love seeing Bobby, and Charlie it cheapens their deaths if that makes sense. I guess since both of them died after Sam & Dean stopped the apocalypse it sorta makes sense for them to exist in a universe where the actions that got them killed never happened. If Ellen, Jo, Ash, etc are in other universe though that's gonna be super dumb, even if I would love to see em again.

As for Gabriel he's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaack! Annnnnnnd he left BibleThump. My heart aches now I miss him already :(. At least we now know KFC man isn't the super big baddies. So it has to be Michael, or those creatures things KFC man wanted to summon.
 

Septimus Prime

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Oct 25, 2017
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Or Rowena, since she did whatever the hell she did, remember?

But, that aside, I still wonder how Colonel Sanders even captured Gabriel in the first place, considering how easily Gabe toasted him. It's not like he was even weakened after his encounter with Lucifer, and I can't think of anything a demon could possibly do to hurt him. Even Metatron's spell didn't seem to faze him, since he still has his wings, so...yeah. What happened?
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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Or Rowena, since she did whatever the hell she did, remember?

But, that aside, I still wonder how Colonel Sanders even captured Gabriel in the first place, considering how easily Gabe toasted him. It's not like he was even weakened after his encounter with Lucifer, and I can't think of anything a demon could possibly do to hurt him. Even Metatron's spell didn't seem to faze him, since he still has his wings, so...yeah. What happened?
A Holy Oil fire?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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my bet is on this. Or warding that weakened him.

Speaking of which, how did he even suck the Angel Grace out of him? Was that needle made of angel blade, because afaik the only way to actually hurt an Angels Vessel in a way that gets grace to show itself or take grace is by using an Angel Blade
 

hurlex

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Oct 25, 2017
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Haven't watched but did they address how Gabriel hid from God as well? I vaguely remember God specifically saying he was dead back in season 11 against the darkness.
 

Kschreck

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Oct 27, 2017
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How did Gabriel recharge and was able to easily defeat Asmodeous? Did I miss something? A regular Asmodeous defeated a fully charged Gabrielle previously so what made Gabriel powerful enough so quickly to defeat Asmodeous...
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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How did Gabriel recharge and was able to easily defeat Asmodeous? Did I miss something? A regular Asmodeous defeated a fully charged Gabrielle previously so what made Gabriel powerful enough so quickly to defeat Asmodeous...
I presume a lack of prep-time. Even Sam and Dean were able to catch an archangel for a bit using holy oil, Asmodeous probably had some spell from the time he was hanging out with Lucifer or just did the whole holy oil thing. Without that prep-time Gabe smoked him since the guy was nowhere near his level.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I will say, despite my discomfort with them just bringing back characters that have died by having them in Earth 2, I would have no problem with seeing Balthazar again. It would be extremely, extremely, unlikely for him to have the same vessel, but goddamn he was my favourite Angel.
 

Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
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How did Gabriel recharge and was able to easily defeat Asmodeous? Did I miss something? A regular Asmodeous defeated a fully charged Gabrielle previously so what made Gabriel powerful enough so quickly to defeat Asmodeous...

didn't you noticed the writings on the wall?

Dude was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay distracted xD
 

dabig2

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Oct 29, 2017
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I'm really looking forward to Gabby's backstory. Like was he captured during the whole Amara kerfuffle? How the hell did he hide away from God, or did God know and just say "whatever, fuck it". Cause Gabby was right, sky daddy literally did the same thing for millennia.

And good to see some good ol archangel power here. Casually erased a souped up asmodeus from existence, and I'm sure Gabriel was still nowhere near full power.
 

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Oct 29, 2017
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I feel like God says, "whatever, fuck it" in many situations during this show. Hell, he straight up left. Think he might be of some use currently as a different dimension version of Michael is trying to invade Earth & Lucifer sits on his throne? He probably knew Gabriel was alive or he just didn't bother looking to closely for him. Haha
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like God says, "whatever, fuck it" in many situations during this show. Hell, he straight up left. Think he might be of some use currently as a different dimension version of Michael is trying to invade Earth & Lucifer sits on his throne? He probably knew Gabriel was alive or he just didn't bother looking to closely for him. Haha
I mean, if God knew about the multiple worlds (and there's really no way He wouldn't), why would it even matter what happens to just one of those worlds?

It was good to see that Gabriel's wings weren't clipped by Metatron. The season 9 take caisson of him was bullshit. Now we just need to see him using his powers for fuckery again.
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean, if God knew about the multiple worlds (and there's really no way He wouldn't), why would it even matter what happens to just one of those worlds?

It was good to see that Gabriel's wings weren't clipped by Metatron. The season 9 take caisson of him was bullshit. Now we just need to see him using his powers for fuckery again.
I'm still afraid the boys will jack his grace to go save Jack and their mom.
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
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What a great episode. So much going on, equal focus on a number of characters and yet another great Jensen Ackles moment at the end there.

Very interested to see where they go with both Gabriel and Lucifer. Obviously for Gabriel but they've managed to do something different with Lucifer and I'm honestly not sure where they plan on taking it with him.

I'm actually surprised they killed Asmodeus already. I assumed that would be a season finale type of thing.

I wonder if that means the show is done with the Crowley/Asmodeus set. I can't see why they would need to return to it.

Unless it's Crowley time again.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Lucifer is a great God.

He is legit trying, which makes it so amazing. He just gets pissed and instakills but then has immediate regret lol.

I feel like Gabriel will try to find a way to get their Michael out of the cage and either give the boys Michael's grace(michael must be hella fucked up after spending so much time in the cage) or somehow try and fix Michael to help fight against Evil Michael. Gabriel will definitely not try and rule Heaven, pretty sure he's talked about not wanting anything to do with Heaven a bunch of times
 

milamber182

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Dec 15, 2017
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Is this season worth watching? I've watched since the start and I still like the show but I take longer to catch up with each passing season. Last season was a real struggle to get through.
 

MasterVampire

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like Gabriel will try to find a way to get their Michael out of the cage and either give the boys Michael's grace(michael must be hella fucked up after spending so much time in the cage) or somehow try and fix Michael to help fight against Evil Michael. Gabriel will definitely not try and rule Heaven, pretty sure he's talked about not wanting anything to do with Heaven a bunch of times

Is micheal even still in the cage?
That was unlear when god said he was in no condition to help with the darkness. Was that due to him being released by god but messed up mentally? Why would he leave him in there?
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is micheal even still in the cage?
That was unlear when god said he was in no condition to help with the darkness. Was that due to him being released by god but messed up mentally? Why would he leave him in there?
Even Lucifer said that Michael was fucked up when he got let out to help fight Amara. He's probably lost his mind and is in no shape to do much of anything at this point.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is micheal even still in the cage?
That was unlear when god said he was in no condition to help with the darkness. Was that due to him being released by god but messed up mentally? Why would he leave him in there?

Even Lucifer said that Michael was fucked up when he got let out to help fight Amara. He's probably lost his mind and is in no shape to do much of anything at this point.

Gabriel was pretty fucked up because of being tortured and abused by Asmodeus; how bad of shape could Michael be in? Unless Lucifer was torturing him I don't think being in the cage would cause him to be so messed up that he can't be fixed. It'd probably take some time to fix him up, and they likely did not have enough time to do that in time to fight The Darkness but should be enough time to help against Evil Michael. Even if he can't get fixed and help, his grace could help lol
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just found out the dude is 53 years old. Crazy!

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Oct 25, 2017
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She was a lot better tonight. I think what bothers me the most is not her, per se, but the really stupid lore that gave her the job. It also kind of rubs me the wrong way that she doesn't know about alt-worlds, seeing how she's Death itself and all.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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That was a really great episode. I felt really bad for Rowena. Next weeks episode looks to be really good.
 

riotous

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think they are setting it up so Gabriel will become the head of Heaven; we'll have trickster God for the next few seasons.
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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What happened to Lucifer in heaven?
He doesn't have enough juice to keep the lights on at this point.

I think they are setting it up so Gabriel will become the head of Heaven; we'll have trickster God for the next few seasons.
It seems like Jack might be on his way back as well. I thought he'd stay, but now I'm not so sure. Heaven needs more angels and Gabe will only be able to keep the lights on for so long.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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o ffs why is SHE back? WHY DOES NO ONE DIE ANYMORE GODDAMMIT! Like wouldn't Metatron know she's not dead? And that drill has to have been made by a melted angel blade or something otherwise how could it have hurt Castiel and brain washed him? furthermore WHY did that brainwash him? I liked the episode, showed a caring side of Rowena in a sense, poor Reapers though ;_; oh well they alspee in big room now with not-evil-castiel.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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As much as I love this show it still irks me with all their bullshit about how important "family" is, they dont give a squirt of piss about their brother who's been locked in a cage in hell for over a decade now.
 

B-Dubs

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Oct 25, 2017
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As much as I love this show it still irks me with all their bullshit about how important "family" is, they dont give a squirt of piss about their brother who's been locked in a cage in hell for over a decade now.
They knew him for like 2 days and after what happened with Sam can you blame them? Dude was in the cage for like 20 minutes and he got all kinds of fucked up.