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Oct 27, 2017
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There were very few PAL games that were 50hz and even fewer still that were borked on an Xbox set to NTSC mode so it's not really something to worry about. We'll find out for sure if Halo 1 gets added.
Psychonaughts was a 50hz only game on the original PAL Xbox.

I don't have my disc so I can't check the differences. I can't buy the digital version either for some reason. Says the offer isn't valid in my region. Maybe it's US only. I need to find that disc.
 
Oct 25, 2017
12,646
Arizona
You used to be able to install while offline. It was significantly faster than waiting for the download.
You could never install back compat titles offline on Xbox One. Xbox One games, yes, and it was faster because it wasn't downloading/installing the title updates simultaneously to the game install. Backwards compatible games on Xbox One have always required you to download the full game online, due to the technical nature of how compatibility is achieved on the console. This is the reason back compat games *must* be approved by publishers and why there mustn't be any rights issues, as BC titles on Xbox One are legally considered distinct distributions.
 
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DigitalOp

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Nov 16, 2017
9,292
Looks like One X is floatin at 400-450 used

Man, if I had crazy money Id splurge on a X. The BC is super exciting to me.

One S is around 150-220.. hmm not bad.

How does the S handle BC?


I bet the OG One is dirt cheap... couldn't do it. That box is just ugly.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,859
USA, Sol 3, Universe 1
Looks like One X is floatin at 400-450 used

Man, if I had crazy money Id splurge on a X. The BC is super exciting to me.

One S is around 150-220.. hmm not bad.

How does the S handle BC?


I bet the OG One is dirt cheap... couldn't do it. That box is just ugly.
If you don't need UHD BDs, I'd get a dirt-cheap One over a One S. Every single One I have ever used has been SILENT, but most ever S has made some noise. As far as BC goes on the Non-X units, you will not get gorgeous graphics, but games will still run better than on legacy hardware, and you'll get minor improvements such as more stable frame-rates and no tearing on some titles, and shorter loads.
 

silentrob32

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Nov 1, 2017
76
Psychonaughts was a 50hz only game on the original PAL Xbox.

I don't have my disc so I can't check the differences. I can't buy the digital version either for some reason. Says the offer isn't valid in my region. Maybe it's US only. I need to find that disc.
It's so frustrating. Psychonauts and others are not available in the UK and you can't buy gift cards to get BC games so you can't purchase via the US store. The disc prices are through the roof. Wish MS could sort it out.
 

I KILL PXLS

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Oct 25, 2017
11,552
Quick question. Do all BC games see performance improvements on the OG XBOX or do they only get them on the X1X?
 

raketenrolf

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Oct 28, 2017
5,218
Germany
Do we have a list of PAL games that don't support 480p on original hardware. I know Halo doesn't, but what about the GTA games? Can't find a list for PAL games online.
 

SimonM7

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Oct 27, 2017
359
Sweden
It's so frustrating. Psychonauts and others are not available in the UK and you can't buy gift cards to get BC games so you can't purchase via the US store. The disc prices are through the roof. Wish MS could sort it out.

Dead to Rights is one of those semi-naff games I loved but never expected to see supported, and I'm so sad that I can't purchase that digitally either. :(

I just hope Hunter: The Reckoning doesn't meet the same fate.
 
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silentrob32

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Nov 1, 2017
76
Dead to Rights is one of those semi-naff games I loved but never expected to see supported, and I'm so sad that I can't purchase that digitally either. :(

I just hope Hunter: The Reckoning doesn't meet the same fate.
Same here! I'd buy them in a flash if I could. I thought I actually owned Hunter, but turns out I have the sequel.
 

Bede-x

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Oct 25, 2017
9,454
Does online not work in Rainbow Six Vegas? Every time my friends or I try to launch a game it says "invalid session attribute" making it impossible to create a match.
 

OneBadMutha

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Nov 2, 2017
6,059
Outside of God of War and State of Decay 2, I think my summer will be all BC games. I loaded up Gears 2 to check out the 4K and stayed all the way until the end. Back on 360, I quit pretty early on with Gears 2. Not sure why it stuck this time. Really solid campaign.

Now off to finish Bioshock and start Red Dead.

Next week it'll be Conkers and Panzar Dragoon.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's so frustrating. Psychonauts and others are not available in the UK and you can't buy gift cards to get BC games so you can't purchase via the US store. The disc prices are through the roof. Wish MS could sort it out.
Yeah, I've been wondering what happens when you put the PAL disc in, since the PAL digital version is no longer offered. Does it download the NTSC version?
 

Windrunner

Sly
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Oct 25, 2017
6,508
I don't have my 360 with me so I can't check but how hard is it to access the US store from a PAL 360? I added $10 to my account to buy Breakdown having forgotten that I can't use account balance to buy OG Xbox games from the browser but I can't remember if switching to another country's store is as trivial on 360 as it is on XB1.
 

CoLD FiRE

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Nov 11, 2017
369
I don't have my 360 with me so I can't check but how hard is it to access the US store from a PAL 360? I added $10 to my account to buy Breakdown having forgotten that I can't use account balance to buy OG Xbox games from the browser but I can't remember if switching to another country's store is as trivial on 360 as it is on XB1.

It's not as easy as changing regions on XB1. For 360 and OG games, your easiest option is to use a VPN via a browser extension on a computer to buy from another region.
 

raketenrolf

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Oct 28, 2017
5,218
Germany
I don't have my 360 with me so I can't check but how hard is it to access the US store from a PAL 360? I added $10 to my account to buy Breakdown having forgotten that I can't use account balance to buy OG Xbox games from the browser but I can't remember if switching to another country's store is as trivial on 360 as it is on XB1.
You need to have an us account. Simply changing the console region isn't enough.
 

Windrunner

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Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Bollocks. Thanks guys.

Guess I will have to use my disc like a savage.

It's also on the Japanese store so just PAL territories are missing out... what are you playing at Bamco?
 
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Edge

A King's Landing
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Oct 25, 2017
21,012
Celle, Germany
Bought "The Force Unleashed" Online on Ebay for 7 bucks and got part 2 sendet to me. -.-

Too bad that has no enhancement yet, hope they will add that for the second game too, eve if it's o even close as good as the first one.
 

Dave_6

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Oct 25, 2017
1,524
I remember reading back when RDR first went BC that the online was broken, something about hackers had really messed it up. Has that been fixed or should I just stay out of it?
 

demi

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Oct 27, 2017
14,855
I remember reading back when RDR first went BC that the online was broken, something about hackers had really messed it up. Has that been fixed or should I just stay out of it?

Yup, it still uses 360 environment so any hackers on 360 will still be present. Which is why its weird people are so adamant on wanting old COD games but
 

Dave_6

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Oct 25, 2017
1,524
Fucking hackers, just doesn't make any sense. Why would you want to ruin something on purpose? I used to have so much fun in the MP.
 

Green

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Oct 27, 2017
7,414
So is there no other way to use money on my account to buy 360 or OG Xbox games without using a 360? Really wish I had known that in advance of getting the cards...
 

Prologue

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Oct 28, 2017
781
......people are still hacking a decade old game on a previous generation console?

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Dave_6

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Oct 25, 2017
1,524
Check out the co-op DLC if you're curious to try multiplayer. Should be safe from miscreants.

I'm currently playing through the story again and trying to do every side mission since I never did many of those. I also bought Undead Nightmare back when it released but never really played it so I've got that to do as well.
 

playXray

Chicken Chaser
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Oct 27, 2017
614
UK
Anyone know if Morrowind is live? I just bought it from the Xbox Store but can't download it on my X1?
 

Judau

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Oct 28, 2017
4,806
Speaking of hacked MP for old games, is the MP for Modern Warfare still hacked? I remember jumping into a few lobbies about 3-4 years after it launched and they all had that stupid super-speed hack. I think I gave up looking for a non-hacked lobby after like 5 minutes.
 
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