SPECULATION: I believe Starfield (ZeniMax/Bethesda) is a Mobile game

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

Recently I have been searching through Global Brand Database for different video game related trademark. I recently checked out ZeniMax Media trademarks and notice the long-rumored Starfield trademark people are anticipating to be Bethesda next big triple-A game. However, unfortunately, I have noticed a pattern with this trademark compare to other ZeniMax Media games that released on console.

First, let's look at the good and services of Starfield (11.12.2017):

mobile application software, namely, electronic game programs; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; computer game software for use with on-line interactive games; video games for mobile devices, electronic game programs; downloadable electronic game programs; electronic game software; computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs; interactive game programs; interactive game software; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; downloadable instruction and user guides related to video games; downloadable software in the nature of expanded content for existing video and computer games; skins and covers for video game consoles and devices; video game controllers and joysticks; downloadable artwork and videos related to video and computer games; software for accessing online interactive computer games; video and computer games; mousepads; Metal key chains; Tin signs; Vinyl LPs; Watches and jewelry; clocks; Collectible trading card milk bottle caps; leather document portfolios; Art Book; Wallets; messenger bags; backpacks; leather key chains; purses; Collectible statues of plastic; lunch boxes; cups and mugs; beverage glassware; shotglasses; video game joysticks; bobblehead dolls; plush toys; action figure toys; snowboards; board games; card games; replica toy weapons; puzzles; Prop replica collectibles

You may have noticed that the first line mentions mobile-related uses such as mobile application software, namely, electronic game programs and video games for mobile devices. Now some might say Im being far-fetched and just grabbing out this words, however, let's look at a game ZeniMax has released on Console Platforms recently.

Skyrim (04.05.01) Good and Services tags:

Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; downloadable computer and video game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; electronic device featuring computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; pre-recorded digital media in the nature of CD-ROMs and DVDs featuring computer games and video games, wallpapers, screensavers, digital music files, and graphics, videos, films, multimedia files, motion pictures, and animation in the field of video games and computer games; downloadable digital media, namely, downloadable images, downloadable artwork, downloadable text files, downloadable audio files, downloadable video files, downloadable game software, and downloadable motion pictures; mugs and glasses; clothing; posters and artwork; video game related merchandise; books and strategy guides in the field of video and computer games; jewelry; plush

You may have noticed that the first line mentions computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles compared to Starfield right off the bat mentions Mobile game-related features.

Let's look at another trademark that ZeniMax filled Prey 2017 (16.08.2016):

Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; downloadable computer and video game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; electronic device featuring computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; pre-recorded digital media in the nature of CD-ROMs and DVDs featuring computer games and video games, wallpapers, screensavers, digital music files, and graphics, videos, films, multimedia files, motion pictures, and animation in the field of video games and computer games; downloadable digital media, namely, downloadable images, downloadable artwork, downloadable text files, downloadable audio files, downloadable video files, downloadable game software, and downloadable motion pictures

Again with this trademark right off the bat mentions Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles like the previous one I mention Skyrim VR. But what does a mobile game trademark from Bethesda Softworks looks like?

Fallout Shelter (12.01.2016) Good and Services tags:

Video games for mobile devices, electronic game programs; downloadable electronic game programs; electronic game software; computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs; interactive game programs; interactive game software; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices

Similar to Starfield this starts out with Mobile related features compared to the other two Skyrim VR and Prey 2017 which starts out with computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles.

With this evidence, you can see why I strongly believe that Starfield is a mobile game and not there next big triple-A game. However, I believe they are working on there triple A game maybe its Elder Scrolls, Fallout or a brand new IP but I am confident that it's not Starfield.

Source: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/

EDIT:

FelipeMGM said:
maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

Rezsolution · Apr 15, 2018

Maybe it could be mobile tie-in stuff like Fallout did with Shelter and the Pip-Boy app.

SUPGUYZ · Apr 15, 2018

Does the Switch count as mobile in this scenario?

Deleted member 39587 · Apr 15, 2018

Rezsolution said:
Maybe it could be mobile tie-in

^

Deleted member 7753 · Apr 15, 2018

SUPGUYZ said:
Does the Switch count as mobile in this scenario?

yes

HeisenbergWW62 · Apr 15, 2018

Nirolak just came

Van Bur3n · Apr 15, 2018

I'm in the same boat as you OP. Many think it will be BGS's next open world sandbox RPG, but considering recent trends within BGS and the evidence you provide. I definitely feel Starfield will not be of a traditional BGS formula.

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

I think Starfield is a big AAA game, but has a mobile app too.

Derrick01 · Apr 15, 2018

I can't put into words how much joy this would bring me if true. Funniest gaming thing since FFXIV's debut trailer probably.

RPGam3r · Apr 15, 2018

I lean towards large AAA game with a mobile tie in.

Maxime · Apr 15, 2018

lashman, spill the beans.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

Dark Cloud said:
I think Starfield is a big AAA game, but has a mobile app too.

If it was they probably wouldn't start the good and services with mobile.

Max|Payne · Apr 15, 2018

BGS has to announce something new this year, right? There's only so many times Skyrim can be ported...

Invisible Cities · Apr 15, 2018

Maxey said:
BGS has to announce something new this year, right? There's only so many times Skyrim can be ported...

Maybe we'll start getting FO3 ports.

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

Maxime said:
lashman, spill the beans.

Who's that?

Deleted member 300 · Apr 15, 2018

JammerLammy said:
yes

So does vita. But they are both in limbo with third party now

Deleted member 2793 · Apr 15, 2018

Maxey said:
BGS has to announce something new this year, right? There's only so many times Skyrim can be ported...

It would be announcing something tho. :p Also, maybe they want to do a mobile game after how their last AAA games performed.

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

AAMARMO said:
If it was they probably wouldn't start the good and services with mobile.

Well, luckily for us we'll find out in exactly 2 months!

Deleted member 7753 · Apr 15, 2018

QueenOfHunting said:
So does vita. But they are both in limbo with third party now

I'm at the point where i just say Yes to everything whenever someone mention switch, easier that way :)

kadotsu · Apr 15, 2018

Derrick01 said:
I can't put into words how much joy this would bring me if true. Funniest gaming thing since FFXIV's debut trailer probably.

But they made that embarasing singleplayer PR video and everything!

FelipeMGM · Apr 15, 2018

maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

chobel · Apr 15, 2018

I refuse to believe, need Nirolak to confirm.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

FelipeMGM said:
maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

Nice Find.

Van Bur3n · Apr 15, 2018

Heartskips said:
It would be announcing something tho. :p Also, maybe they want to do a mobile game after how their last AAA games performed.

Very well? Despite the bad rep their games get in vocal minority bubbles, Bethesda RPGs are still some of the most popular and well-received. Especially Skyrim and Fallout 4.

ThroughtheVoid · Apr 15, 2018

I bet you a packet of cookies it's their next AAA IP for consoles and PC, with no mobile tie-in and launches this winter.

Deleted member 2793 · Apr 15, 2018

Van Bur3n said:
Very well? Despite the bad rep their games get in vocal minority bubbles, Bethesda RPGs are still some of the most popular and well-received. Especially Skyrim and Fallout 4.

I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.

noyram23 · Apr 15, 2018

Heartskips said:
It would be announcing something tho. :p Also, maybe they want to do a mobile game after how their last AAA games performed.

So they want to transition to mobile after the success of FO4 and Skrim ports? It's probably mobile but I doubt it's due game sales of their previous AAA games, maybe FO Shelter is raking the dough in the background though

Potterson · Apr 15, 2018

No, it is not :) And it is coming this fall, so just wait for E3.

Deleted member 39587 · Apr 15, 2018

Heartskips said:
Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey

Those are not BGS titles.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

Potterson said:
No, it is not :) And it is coming this fall, so just wait for E3.

Source?

Van Bur3n · Apr 15, 2018

Heartskips said:
I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.

I was of the mindset of thinking about BGS and their games, not Bethesda as a whole. Although I suppose that is something to consider was well.

bane833 · Apr 15, 2018

They certainly didn´t spend the last 3 years developing a mobile game.

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

Potterson said:
No, it is not :) And it is coming this fall, so just wait for E3.

You have inside knowledge?

Deleted member 2793 · Apr 15, 2018

labpleb said:
Those are not BGS titles.

Van Bur3n said:
I was of the mindset of thinking about BGS and their games, not Bethesda as a whole. Although I suppose that is something to consider was well.

I missed the BGS part in that post. Anyway, seeing as how old this is, I guess it's not a reaction to 2017 sales after all.

Deleted member 11413 · Apr 15, 2018

Heartskips said:
I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.

Are we talking sales or quality here? Because Evil Within 2 and Prey are both good games, Prey is fantastic.

SweetNicole · Apr 15, 2018

It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.

Turkoop · Apr 15, 2018

Either Doom 2 or Starfield coming this fall. Bethesda need something to put into holiday.

FelipeMGM · Apr 15, 2018

yeah, l think SweetNicole brings a great point here

They also have ''STARFIELD'' fillings for clothing apparel and game manuals/posters/trading cards. These are usually done when you are preparing some big project, covering the property for licensed products too

Also, I need Fallout in space godammit lol

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

SweetNicole said:
It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.

Yeah. This is what some of us said. A mobile game and a console/pc game.

Zephy · Apr 15, 2018

I wan to believe it's a proper game. Skyrim in space, that'd be the shit.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

SweetNicole said:
It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.

There's are a few things that I think people are getting confused about.

1) Starfield is not trademark by Bethesda Softworks this could mean this is not related to there next triple A game for consoles
2) It looked like a console game with this name was in the work but seem to be canceled or didnt get developed due to the trademark abandon Bethesda

FelipeMGM said:
maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

Rodjer · Apr 15, 2018

Turkoop said:
Doom 2

DOOM 2 Spring 2019, i can feel it.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

FelipeMGM said:
yeah, looking thoroughly through their TM's, I agree with SweetNicole.

They also have ''STARFIELD'' fillings for clothing apparel and game manuals/posters/trading cards. These are usually done when you are preparing some big project, covering the property for licensed products too

Also, I need Fallout in space godammit lol

Fallout Shelter has the similar fillings your suggesting as well if you look at them.

Potterson · Apr 15, 2018

Dark Cloud said:
You have inside knowledge?

I don't know how confirming stuff works here. I can do that if a mod asks me in private message.

Dark Cloud · Apr 15, 2018

Potterson said:
I don't know how confirming stuff works here. I can do that if a mod asks me in private message.

Usually people will just say it, but I believe mods would like you to message them with some kind of proof you have real knowledge, then you can let us know if you don't mind.

Funny Valentine · Apr 15, 2018

Potterson said:
No, it is not :) And it is coming this fall, so just wait for E3.

This is tales from your ass until you get mod confirmation.

Vertpin · Apr 15, 2018

Yeah insider information really needs to be confirmed here. Can't wait to see what this game is.

franklyshankly · Apr 15, 2018

AAMARMO said:
If it was they probably wouldn't start the good and services with mobile.

I'm a lawyer who regularly files trademark applications and I'll tell you the order of goods and services listing means absolutely nothing, particularly when there are a dozen or more listed.

Chronos · Apr 15, 2018

I wouldnt be surprised if it is a mobile tie-in, also, Starfield could also be a placeholder name for the Project and they will be deciding on another name for the release.

AAMARMO · Apr 15, 2018

franklyshankly said:
I'm a lawyer who regularly files trademark applications and I'll tell you the order of goods and services listing means absolutely nothing, particularly when there are a dozen or more listed.

It kinda strange that there mobile games always start of with mobile, this is a strange situation.

Also the console version of the trademark was abandon.

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