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Young Liar

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Nov 30, 2017
3,421
No BL limits for password co-op. Player being summoned will have their stats scaled to the host's level if they're way above the normal summoning range.
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
So I decided to do the chalice dungeons right at the end of the game...steamrolling through....Lower Pthumerian Level 3 jumps difficulty in such an extreme fashion it was unbelievable to me. Giant rooms with ten of those fireball centipedes and packs of dogs with that witch hat enemy all at the same time...
 

Aniki

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Oct 25, 2017
6,806
Continued my journey through Old Yharnam yesterday. Didn't take too long until i arrived at this areas boss, the Blood-starved Beast. Took me a few tries just because i didn't make enough distance between us whenever it exploded its poison everywhere and it ended up grabbing me afterwards. After l made sure to always leave enough distance between us during these phases, evading its other attacks was not that difficult.

After beating it i made my way back to the Cathedral Ward to continue my way from there. As i left i was attacked and killed by a new enemy, the Abductor as i later learned. But instead of respawning at the lamp i was transported somewhere else. I was pretty disoriented and intimidated at first. These Abductors were rooming this area and i was reluctant to take them on after trying for the first time and failing. They pack quite the punch and can take some heat. So i concentrated on scouting the area first.

It didn't take long and i ended up at another boss, Darkbeast Paarl. This one will take me while. It killed me pretty fast with its lightning attacks. Anyway, after scouting the area some more and getting every item i could find, i decided to take on the Abductors again. This time i did much better and i even got one Twin Blood Stone from one of them. I will now farm them for a while and then take on Paarl again.
 

Calabi

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,490
I have to say I like this game more than Dark Souls 3 so far. Whilst the Chromatic shit ruins the graphics somewhat, the tone and the atmosphere is great. Things seem to fit and make sense, there's somewhat more of a story here to grab onto.
 

stn

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,603
Is there a reason I can't equip the weapons I received at the very beginning of the game? I just started for the first time yesterday. Is it because the game is not fully downloaded and installed yet?
 

Aniki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,806
Is there a reason I can't equip the weapons I received at the very beginning of the game? I just started for the first time yesterday. Is it because the game is not fully downloaded and installed yet?
Did you try to equip them through the weapon slots? It doesn't work if you try from the inventory.
 

Aniki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,806
Man wish I went with another weapon but I used my chunks already
Why? Did you find something better or do not just not like the one you currently use?

edit: Damn, i can't find the lamp from Unseen Village on the headstone. I'm sure i've activated it.

edit 2: ok, found it on another headstone.
 
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tmdorsey

▲ Legend ▲
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Oct 26, 2017
1,652
Georgia
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What the hell kind of dodge allows you to disappear like that? Sunhi you are the gif freaking master! Haven't played in a couple of days and your gif has gotten me bloodthirsty.



I was feeling pretty good about myself after I finally killed the Shadows. Fuck the Forbidden Forest and Fuck every.single.snake.thing.in.that.place.

And then 5 minutes later I'm getting destroyed by a random NCP hunter and I kill it after like 20 tries and I'm suddenly not feeling so good about myself.

So I go forward thinking I'm gonna have a moment of respite and, oh it's Rom, another boss. A giant spider thing. That summons spiders. That one shoots you with a fucking AOE attack.


My feelings exactly and I'm currently at the same spot. I tried Rom a few times and was like "yeah this might be a good time for a break because this gonna take a minute...".

So, catching up on the last few pages of posts am I to understand the Nightmare Frontier area is not the DLC?

Another stupid question. What exactly is considered a thrust attack? Is it an attack that starts from running or like a charger attack?
 

SunhiLegend

The Legend Continues
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Oct 25, 2017
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Aniki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,806
That you must return to the Hunter's Dream everytime you want to respawn enemies is fucking annoying.
 

Paganmoon

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,586
That you must return to the Hunter's Dream everytime you want to respawn enemies is fucking annoying.
with Bold Hunter's mark you can respawn at your last lamp with all your echos intact, and all mobs respawned iirc. Just make sure it's the Bold Hunter's Mark, and not the Hunter's mark, as the latter sends you to your last lamp, but nulls all your echoes (unrecoverable iirc)
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
So, catching up on the last few pages of posts am I to understand the Nightmare Frontier area is not the DLC?

Another stupid question. What exactly is considered a thrust attack? Is it an attack that starts from running or like a charger attack?

Nightmare Frontier is a late base game area. As regards thrust, I think it any slashing, piercing, thrusting weapon in general. The attack types are either thrust or blunt, so if its got an edge, its thrust. The Kirkhammer is thrust with the sword and blunt with the hammer.
 

Aniki

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Oct 25, 2017
6,806
with Bold Hunter's mark you can respawn at your last lamp with all your echos intact, and all mobs respawned iirc. Just make sure it's the Bold Hunter's Mark, and not the Hunter's mark, as the latter sends you to your last lamp, but nulls all your echoes (unrecoverable iirc)
Thank you, how could i forget them. This will help me with the farming of those Twin Blood stones.

Keep in mind that the area you're in is a later game area. You can of course farm there if you like, but its not necessary to progress there immediately, which is why those sack guys are so difficult.
I will try my luck with Paarl again and when i don't see progress by tomorrow, i will follow your advice and come back later
 
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Noema

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Jan 17, 2018
4,908
Mexico CIty
What exactly is considered a thrust attack? Is it an attack that starts from running or like a charger attack?

Nightmare Frontier is a late base game area. As regards thrust, I think it any slashing, piercing, thrusting weapon in general. The attack types are either thrust or blunt, so if its got an edge, its thrust. The Kirkhammer is thrust with the sword and blunt with the hammer.

I think that's not always the case necessarily. Ludwig's Holy Blade, in trick mode, deals blunt damage with R1, but thrust with R2. When one handed, R1 deals physical damage and R2 deals thrust. So Physical, Thrust and Blunt constitute each a different damage types and different enemies are weak against one of those 3 and sometimes strong agains others.

Usually an attack that deals thrust damage looks like, well, a thrust, but it's not always that obvious, specially with physical or blunt.

For example the Hunter's Axe R1 attacks are Physical when one handed, but Blunt when transformed, even though they look very much alike (slashing).

Really the only way to know for sure is by looking at the moveset for each weapon in a wiki .
 
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TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
I think that's not always the case necessarily. Ludwig's Holy Blade, in trick mode, deals blunt damage with R1, but thrust with R2. When one handed, R1 deals physical damage and R2 deals thrust. So Physical, Thrust and Blunt constitute each a different damage types and different enemies are weak against one of those 3 and sometimes strong agains others.

Usually an attack that deals thrust damage looks like, well, a thrust, but it's not always that obvious, specially with physical or blunt.

For example the Hunter's Axe R1 attacks are Physical when one handed, but Blunt when transformed, even though they look very much alike (slashing).

Really the only way to know for sure is by looking at the moveset for each weapon in a wiki .
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
Thank you, how could i forget them. This will help me with the farming of those Twin Blood stones.


I will try my luck with Paarl again and when i don't see progress by tomorrow, i will follow your advice and comeback later
Yeah, one of the better features for brave/determined/skilled players is the ability to do certain areas in a more non-linear fashion. I'm the type that would rather do what's required first. I smashed Paarl to dust when I came back later.
 

Qurupeke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,275
Hello. I beat Rom and I'm currently on Yahar'gul, I was reading some stuff on the internet and I feel like I've missed some things. Specifically, I haven't been on the Lecture Building or on the Nightmare Frontier and apparently there's an optional boss I never fought, Darkbeast Paarl. Should I go to these areas now or I'll naturally progress to them later?

Also, I think I missed some NPCs, the only ones I rescued are Arianna and the corpse eating guy. I guess I can't rescue anyone else anymore?
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
Hello. I beat Rom and I'm currently on Yahar'gul, I was reading some stuff on the internet and I feel like I've missed some things. Specifically, I haven't been on the Lecture Building or on the Nightmare Frontier and apparently there's an optional boss I never fought, Darkbeast Paarl. Should I go to these areas now or I'll naturally progress to them later?

Also, I think I missed some NPCs, the only ones I rescued are Arianna and the corpse eating guy. I guess I can't rescue anyone else anymore?
Paarl is in Yahar'gul, you can get to him earlier in the game, but he's in the area you're in now. The lecture building is later. NF is later.
 

Aniki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,806
Hello. I beat Rom and I'm currently on Yahar'gul, I was reading some stuff on the internet and I feel like I've missed some things. Specifically, I haven't been on the Lecture Building or on the Nightmare Frontier and apparently there's an optional boss I never fought, Darkbeast Paarl. Should I go to these areas now or I'll naturally progress to them later?

Also, I think I missed some NPCs, the only ones I rescued are Arianna and the corpse eating guy. I guess I can't rescue anyone else anymore?
There is another women in Yahar'gul, though she doesn't speak to me yet. She is in a room below the Hypogean Gaol lamp. Yeah, Paarl is in this area. Can't help with the other stuff as you're much further than me and i came to this place on a completely different way, it seems.
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
There is another women in Yahar'gul, though she doesn't speak to me yet. She is in a room below the Hypogean Gaol lamp. Yeah, Paarl is in this area. Can't help with the other stuff as you're much further than me and i came to this place on a completely different way, it seems.
That lady won't be there by the time you return normally, I believe. I missed so many NPC side quests, I can't really help here. Arianna's the important one though.
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
Why is she important?
I don't want to spoil you but she's tied to
the method of getting a secret ending and secret final boss.
Then again if you're not spoiled you probably won't figure it out....its a conundrum! At least try to save her if you can. You shouldn't spoil yourself if you don't know the games twists already.
 

Aniki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,806
I don't want to spoil you but she's tied to
the method of getting a secret ending and secret final boss.
Then again if you're not spoiled you probably won't figure it out....its a conundrum! At least try to save her if you can. You shouldn't spoil yourself if you don't know the games twists already.
Ok, i won't look and i'll make sure to save her.
 

Spinky

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,112
London
I am losing my goddamn mind.

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Not even only once. But twice. It happened TWICE.

I don't even have the freaking words.

It's 3am.
 

tmdorsey

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,652
Georgia
Nightmare Frontier is a late base game area. As regards thrust, I think it any slashing, piercing, thrusting weapon in general. The attack types are either thrust or blunt, so if its got an edge, its thrust. The Kirkhammer is thrust with the sword and blunt with the hammer.

I think that's not always the case necessarily. Ludwig's Holy Blade, in trick mode, deals blunt damage with R1, but thrust with R2. When one handed, R1 deals physical damage and R2 deals thrust. So Physical, Thrust and Blunt constitute each a different damage types and different enemies are weak against one of those 3 and sometimes strong agains others.

Usually an attack that deals thrust damage looks like, well, a thrust, but it's not always that obvious, specially with physical or blunt.

For example the Hunter's Axe R1 attacks are Physical when one handed, but Blunt when transformed, even though they look very much alike (slashing).

Really the only way to know for sure is by looking at the moveset for each weapon in a wiki .

Thanks for the responses. I think I get it now.


I also beat Rom finally and am currently getting my ass kicked in Yahar'gul. I got the feeling that I wasn't ready for Nightmare Frontier so I guess I will try to clear Yahar'gul, see where I end up after that, and then do my second chalice dungeon.
 

Red Liquorice

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,080
UK
Ebriatas? Try staying in front of her and dodge the tentacle swipes and bait out attacks like the head smash down where you can get damage in on the head (weakspot). When she starts doing the lasers it's easy to outrun them, similar to the ice meteors from Rom. Watch out for the rush forward attack, it has one of those nasty hitboxes like the Watchdog that drags you along, better to lock-off and dodge to the side than through her.
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
Ebriatas? Try staying in front of her and dodge the tentacle swipes and bait out attacks like the head smash down where you can get damage in on the head (weakspot). When she starts doing the lasers it's easy to outrun them, similar to the ice meteors from Rom. Watch out for the rush forward attack, it has one of those nasty hitboxes like the Watchdog that drags you along, better to lock-off and dodge to the side than through her.
I feel like I lucked out or something, as I got behind her and stayed behind her. I'd get hit occasionally with something(I couldn't see shit either) but I felt like her pronged backside kept me stuck there while she flailed and tried to turn. Definitely the easiest boss for me....strangely enough.
 

Aniki

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Oct 25, 2017
6,806
Paarl is no more. Decided to try it one more time, only this time i did not lock on to him at all. Was a weird fight as he only used his lightning bomb one time, even though i stood underneath him for an eternity, just pummeling him. Before, i could get a maximum of two hits in before he would unload on me. The only hairy situations were when he got away from me during his later phase, but i was onto him in no time before he could do some real damage. Whatever, i take it.

Climbed up the Healing Church Workshop there after and the view from up there is just breathtaking. Just stood there for a while, taking it all in. Today i'll explore the shop some more just this time i'll go down.
 

Spinky

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,112
London
Congratulations. Many people consider him the hardest boss of the base game.
Thanks. Assuming you mean the DLC, I heard the same thing. :P

I think I found Laurence to be tougher though, mostly because with Kos I always felt like I sort of knew what to do, was just hard putting it into action. I couldn't even get Laurence down to his second phase without a co-op partner. Was just stumped.
I feel like I hear this about every other boss. Read the same when I was trying to find helpful tactics for Father G and BSB, on both the ending remark was "you just beat the hardest boss of the game"
The level of difficulty varies for people, which I find interesting. One of my friends had loads of trouble with Shadows of Yharnam and Amygdala, both of whom I beat on my first try.

Kos is way harder than all of those, for sure.
 

Paganmoon

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Oct 26, 2017
5,586
Thanks. Assuming you mean the DLC, I heard the same thing. :P

I think I found Laurence to be tougher though, mostly because with Kos I always felt like I sort of knew what to do, was just hard putting it into action. I couldn't even get Laurence down to his second phase without a co-op partner. Was just stumped.
The level of difficulty varies for people, which I find interesting. One of my friends had loads of trouble with Shadows of Yharnam and Amygdala, both of whom I beat on my first try.

Kos is way harder than all of those, for sure.
Father G and BSB were the hardest ones for me. Someone over at FootyEra said Vicar Amelia was their next wall, and I got it on first try, going in blind (only boss I managed on frist try). I think I died more on Father G and BSB combined than I did on all other bosses together (and I died tons on all other bosses).

But yeah, it's really intersting reading on what peoples toughest bosses are.
 

robosllim

Banned
Dec 4, 2017
548
Forbidden Woods isn't a bad area imho and y'all are being too harsh on the Shadows, they're a great boss (with a beautiful arena to boot).
After my first playthrough, I just booked it through the Woods as fast as possible to get to the end. On my most recent run, though, I actually took my time again to find all the runes and yeah, it wasn't that bad. It's definitely rough on the first attempt but it's got a lot of potential to grow on a person.
 

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After my first playthrough, I just booked it through the Woods as fast as possible to get to the end. On my most recent run, though, I actually took my time again to find all the runes and yeah, it wasn't that bad. It's definitely rough on the first attempt but it's got a lot of potential to grow on a person.
It grew on me when I realized that in one of my first runs through the area, I'd been wandering for about half an hour without dying or seeing a lantern. It was stressful and depressing in the best way.
 

tmdorsey

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Oct 26, 2017
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Georgia
What I learned about Forbidden Woods was finding the shortcuts makes it a lot more bearable before you beat the boss of the area. Now that I've discovered most of the shortcuts and beat the boss, I feel good about going back there to farm echoes, vials, and bullets.

Quick question. So right now, as far as I know, after beating Rom I have the option of doing the Nightmare Frontier area or Yahar'gul. Any recommendations on which one I should tackle or doesn't even matter? My hunter is currently at lvl 75 I think with 30 Vit, 23 End, 18 Str, 30 Skl, 12 BT, and 12 Arc.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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What I learned about Forbidden Woods was finding the shortcuts makes it a lot more bearable before you beat the boss of the area. Now that I've discovered most of the shortcuts and beat the boss, I feel good about going back there to farm echoes, vials, and bullets.

Quick question. So right now, as far as I know, after beating Rom I have the option of doing the Nightmare Frontier area or Yahar'gul. Any recommendations on which one I should tackle or doesn't even matter? My hunter is currently at lvl 75 I think with 30 Vit, 23 End, 18 Str, 30 Skl, 12 BT, and 12 Arc.
The enemies in Frontier should be quite easy to deal with right now, the problem is exploring the place, I would recommend it.
 

Calabi

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Oct 26, 2017
3,490
Wow! Looks like I'm at an impasse, I've not seen anything like it in a souls game, a one hit kill boss. I have 31 vitality and it does one spin attack which is really difficult to avoid and its full health to nothing, I died. Its an Undead Giant in a chalice I guess these chalice dungeons are shit, like wtf, do they not play test this, is there not some trick to it.