How did Chris Brown and R. Kelly "get away with it"?

Inkblots · Apr 16, 2018

They have lots of money and they were popular as fuck.

ashep said:
Their fanbases don't give a shit.

The fact that Brown beat up one of the most popular artists on the fucking planet tells me that it ain't about their victims, it's about their fans.

And Kelly raped Aaliyah who was a revered talent, but no one gives a fuck. I remember the social media posts after the allegations against Brown came to light: women saying they would let him beat them up. People turning on Rhianna. It was disgusting.

signal said:
Probably depends how big you are and whether or not you were convicted of anything. Mystikal didn't get away with it!

wtf is she on? He said absolutely nothing wrong. This is partly the reason, OP. You can't even talk about it.

Heshinsi · Apr 16, 2018

Isn't the reason that what the two did wasn't hidden for a long period of time. It came out, there was a backlash against them, and they rebounded from it due to the times. I'm 100% confident that if they did these abhorant things today, not only would they face back lash worse than they did before, but I don't think they bounce back at all.

Deepwater · Apr 16, 2018

Heshinsi said:
Isn't the reason that what the two did wasn't hidden for a long period of time. It came out, there was a backlash against them, and they rebounded from it due to the times. I'm 100% confident that if they did these abhorant things today, not only would they face back lash worse than they did before, but I don't think they bounce back as easily.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogat...en-in-a-cult?utm_term=.yh3m3Q54Q5#.xn9PQEqoEq
He's still doing this shit. After his acquittal in 2008, he just shifted to basically skirting legal consent laws. It's the same thing with several pedophiles who almost get busted, they clean up their act just enough to avoid legal trouble with the law. It becomes more subversive.

Heshinsi · Apr 16, 2018

Deepwater said:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogat...en-in-a-cult?utm_term=.yh3m3Q54Q5#.xn9PQEqoEq
He's still doing this shit. After his acquittal in 2008, he just shifted to basically skirting legal consent laws. It's the same thing with several pedophiles who almost get busted, they clean up their act just enough to avoid legal trouble with the law. It becomes more subversive.

What the fuck?! How is he not charged with something over this?

Deepwater · Apr 16, 2018

Heshinsi said:
What the fuck?! How is he not charged with something over this?

Because he just ropes them in as soon as they turn 18.

Deleted member 11157 · Apr 16, 2018

People still think Michael Jackson is guilty of something?!?

Randam · Apr 16, 2018

AnansiThePersona said:
in R. Kelly's case, sleeping with a 15 year-old girl and filming it.(Also marrying Aaliyah when she was 15 at the time, but should it still surprise anyone that R. Kelly is a pedophile? Anyways...)

That doesn't make you a pedophile.
I forgot the right term. But pedophile means you have a interesting in children before they reached the puberty.

Edit: it's Hebephilia.

TheGhost · Apr 16, 2018

Chris Brown fans are the worst, especially on Twitter.

I just had to take one look at Rhianna's face to instantly hate that dude.

Yet people forgave his ass.

R-Kelly....smh dudes a bum, he definitely got ridiculed by Black Comedians but it unfortunately didn't get the main stream attention it deserved because that dudes career should be dead.

Randam said:
That doesn't make you a pedophile.
I forgot the right term. But pedophile means you have a interesting in children before they reached the puberty.

Edit: it's Hebephilia.

Don't matter what the academic term is, society still looks at that as a pedophile

Super Corpse Soldier · Apr 17, 2018

Randam said:
That doesn't make you a pedophile.
I forgot the right term. But pedophile means you have a interesting in children before they reached the puberty.

Edit: it's Hebephilia.

Really? Are you seriously going to do this?

Heshinsi · Apr 17, 2018

TheGhost said:
Don't matter what the academic term is, society still looks at that as a pedophile

Yep. Fifty year old man preying on probescent minors is a predator no matter what the academic term is. Hell the article that Deepwater posted shows he's a predator even when he waits for the girls to reach 18.

LionPride · Apr 17, 2018

Randam said:
That doesn't make you a pedophile.
I forgot the right term. But pedophile means you have a interesting in children before they reached the puberty.

Edit: it's Hebephilia.

No one gives a damn about the technical term

EvoTech · Apr 17, 2018

Prologue said:
Chris Brown had a defense force the day after that beating, despite those images.

I'll never understand that.

As much as I love rap and hip/hop, the culture these genres make often makes me sick.

haimon · Apr 17, 2018

This is an example of why.

Z-Beat · Apr 17, 2018

enzo_gt said:
In some respects, I agree, but when you look at it, he's had multiple albums go platinum after the beating, and arguably his three most successful singles of his entire career (Yeah Yeah Yeah, Loyal, Look At Me Now) came afterwards, including multiple smash #1 hits, pretty much everybody in the industry still works with him aside from like Jay (who never worked with him), Rihanna forgave him, etc.

He "got away" with it and came out of it all with more notoriety. This all depends on what you think of his plea deal, but if we're not talking what's on legal documents exclusively, pretty much everything he's done post-breakup with Karreuche gives me reason to believe there's still a dangerous dude out there.

Does that qualify as getting away with it, though? That's like going to jail and then getting out and successfully reintegrating into society. It's not really getting away with it so much as recovering, and then he fucked it up some more. He does have a pretty baffling defense force though.

Yasuke · Apr 17, 2018

LionPride said:
No one gives a damn about the technical term

Words mean things. Use the right word. He's not a pedophile, he's a hebephile.

Both equate to him being a piece of shit, ain't nobody trying to cover for the nigga.

ZeoVGM · Apr 17, 2018

There is a woman I work with, early 20s, who has tried to argue with me over my dislike of Chris Brown.

On the topic of new music a while back, his newest album came up. I said I hadn't listened to it and she asked why. I remember saying that I honestly had trouble listening to him knowing that he not only beat a woman half to death but has shown zero remorse for it since.

She told me that I didn't "understand" what he was going through and that I shouldn't judge him so much.

faceless · Apr 17, 2018

Yasuke said:
Words mean things. Use the right word. He's not a pedophile, he's a hebephile.

Both equate to him being a piece of shit, ain't nobody trying to cover for the nigga.

?

Dosia · Apr 17, 2018

norm9 said:
People still think Michael Jackson is guilty of something?!?

Yeah, people with common sense.

LionPride · Apr 17, 2018

ZeoVGM said:
There is a woman I work with, early 20s, who has tried to argue with me over my dislike of Chris Brown.

On the topic of new music a while back, his newest album came up. I said I hadn't listened to it and she asked why. I remember saying that I honestly had trouble listening to him knowing that he not only beat a woman half to death but has shown zero remorse for it since.

She told me that I didn't "understand" what he was going through and that I shouldn't judge him so much.

I've heard people bring up the fact Rihanna hit him first

which is true

you wanna know what that didn't warrent? What he did to her

I'm v against hitting women, but damn I get a light bop. Not beating the fuck outta her.

At least Ray Rice hit his now wife with a one hitta

Brown used her face like a punching bag.

Then he got a restraining order put on him after a lot of people woulda fucked with Breezy again

Elegant Weapon · Apr 17, 2018

EvoTech said:
As much as I love rap and hip/hop, the culture these genres make often makes me sick.

for some reason, putting domestic violence on rap/hip-hop culture because some rich singer still has a career seems like absolute fucking bullshit

meanwhile, the fucking president brags about grabbing pussies but go on about how you hate "rap culture"

LionPride · Apr 17, 2018

Elegant Weapon said:
for some reason, putting domestic violence on rap/hip-hop culture because some rich singer still has a career seems like absolute fucking bullshit

meanwhile, the fucking president brags about grabbing pussies but go on about how you hate "rap culture"

don't respond to them

ashep · Apr 17, 2018

Consider this your reminder that Charlemagne said of Chris Brown and Rihanna:

Everyone has hit their chick
Everyone has at least choked a woman
He beat his girlfriend during sex for insulting him
Carribbean women are mouthy
Rihanna was probably beating Chris for a long time so he just let out some frustration

Fuck that fool and the culture that makes excuses for this shit.

enzo_gt · Apr 17, 2018

Z-Beat said:
Does that qualify as getting away with it, though? That's like going to jail and then getting out and successfully reintegrating into society. It's not really getting away with it so much as recovering, and then he fucked it up some more. He does have a pretty baffling defense force though.

I think it really comes down to your level of skepticism or perceived star privilege when it came to the legal repercussions he did have to deal with. Despite paying his debts to society, a lot of people feel like he got off easy and he owed more (and not even just talking about people exaggerating and saying he should have locked up forever).

Shinku_King · Apr 17, 2018

I like the music they make an I still listen to it, I might not mess with them personally though.

SolidSnakex · Apr 17, 2018

signal said:
Probably depends how big you are and whether or not you were convicted of anything. Mystikal didn't get away with it!

How did Chris Brown and R. Kelly "get away with it"?

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