DiipuSurotu

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The problem with these public statements about boycott is that you'll inevitably get caught in hypocrisy.

eta- for example, Anshultz also owns Regal cinemas. That can be problematic if you're an actress and have your movies playing in them. But we haven't heard a peep about that (or have we? I dunno).

That doesn't mean you're hypocritical. It just means you're not omniscient and perfect.
 

TAJ

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I had no idea that Anschutz owned Coachella.
He should be in prison for what he did with Qwest Communications.
 

DR2K

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I've been saying the same thing. Good on her for shining a light on that piece of shit owner.
 

Goldenroad

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That's fair. Having said that, AEG owns a lot more than Coachella. I wonder if she boycotts all of the arenas/venues/sports teams they own and/or are partnered with. I hope she does. It seems a little weird to single out this one festival when there were probably concerts going on at T-Mobil Arena, Staples Center, The O2 in London and a lot of their various venues over the past weekend. I don't think I've ever been to one, but I swear I had a ticket with AEG on it once. I can't remember what for though. I'm with her though, don't support anything that douchebag owns. TBF...I don't know if watching the free livestreams on YouTube is supporting anyone, so I still enjoyed that St. Vincent show.
 

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This is a good thing, it's opening up the issue to a lot more people. Yeah I'm sure it's hypocritical in some aspects, but EVERYONE is a hypocrite in one way or another when it comes to stuff like this, it's just impossible not to be in this day and age unless you are a literal hermit.

For example, I won't eat at Chik-Fil-A, but I'll still buy chicken that I'm sure came from those horrid megafarms.

Why is she famous? How did it become so? I've never seen her in anything and next thing I know she's in every ad I see

edit: apologies for thread derailing with this off topic question, was not my intention

She's a model turned actress. The reason you didn't see her in anything before is because she blew up fairly recently.
 

TaleSpun

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She's completely in the right. I didn't know the owner was like this, I bet the majority of my twitter feed going wild about Beyoncé last night didn't either, and I bet they'd still completely agree with her, too.
 

Syriel

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The owner of Coachella is anti-LGBT according to Cara Delevingne and that's the reason she will never attend Coachella: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...lls-coachella-owner-anti-lgbt-pro-gun-1102976

She's completely in the right. I didn't know the owner was like this, I bet the majority of my twitter feed going wild about Beyoncé last night didn't either, and I bet they'd still completely agree with her, too.

According to Snopes, what is stated in OP hasn't been true for three years.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/04/27/coachella-anti-lgbt/

Lotsa people telling the first poster to go Google Delevingne, but no one seems to be bothering to google the claim that is presented.

He also donated $1 million to Elton John's AIDS foundation last month, which would have been well before Delevingne's claim, so you can't say that was done "in response."

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018...tes-1-million-to-elton-johns-aids-foundation/
 

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According to Snopes, what is stated in OP hasn't been true for three years.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/04/27/coachella-anti-lgbt/

I'm willing to accept if he's actually making an effort to change what he and his foundation donated to. But recent articles in January do go into detail about causes that are pretty awful, mostly Conservative/Right funding of politicians which include anti abortion and ant LGBT stances. If all of those recent articles are "fake news" then I don't know what to say, but when I hear someone yell out a Trump talking point I find that a red flag immediately.
 

PawPrints

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Good on Cara--at least celebrities should be using their influence to smackdown all the asshole mentality in the world.
 

SolmisateSol

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This is a good thing, it's opening up the issue to a lot more people. Yeah I'm sure it's hypocritical in some aspects, but EVERYONE is a hypocrite in one way or another when it comes to stuff like this, it's just impossible not to be in this day and age unless you are a literal hermit.

For example, I won't eat at Chik-Fil-A, but I'll still buy chicken that I'm sure came from those horrid megafarms.



She's a model turned actress. The reason you didn't see her in anything before is because she blew up fairly recently.

Yeah the amount of all-or-nothing thinking when it comes to supporting/boycotting things nowadays is a bit confounding. What's important is that this guy's bullshit is being called out and people are actually doing something about it instead of debating what's most hypothetically righteous.
 

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Yeah the amount of all-or-nothing thinking when it comes to supporting/boycotting things nowadays is a bit confounding. What's important is that this guy's bullshit is being called out and people are actually doing something about it instead of debating what's most hypothetically righteous.

Yeah I think the most important thing is that there's knowledge and transparency on things, an informed consumer, who can make their minds up on their own and where they wish to spend their money (and, in turn, support people or companies). Nothing should be "all or nothing" because that's just impossible. But awareness is crucial.
 
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Finding out that the co-owner of Coachella is a homophobic bigot, makes Kevin Abstract singing: "Heath Ledger with some dreads i just gave my nigga head" on stage even more awesome
 
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There'd be a lot of short threads if we have to use a third party to do research before posting instead of just posting and getting answers. Heklps things move along imo.


again, literally easier than taking the time to post "who" on a forum.

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mobile browsers do this as well

A "third party" lol
 

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According to Snopes, what is stated in OP hasn't been true for three years.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/04/27/coachella-anti-lgbt/

Lotsa people telling the first poster to go Google Delevingne, but no one seems to be bothering to google the claim that is presented.

He also donated $1 million to Elton John's AIDS foundation last month, which would have been well before Delevingne's claim, so you can't say that was done "in response."

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018...tes-1-million-to-elton-johns-aids-foundation/
damn so this is fake news
 

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She's in movies, commercials...being a nerd doesn't give a person an excuse to be ignorant to the world around them

Anyways...yeah this ain't the first time people have said things like this

Yeah and she was in a Call of Duty advert to boot!
 

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According to Snopes, what is stated in OP hasn't been true for three years.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/04/27/coachella-anti-lgbt/

Lotsa people telling the first poster to go Google Delevingne, but no one seems to be bothering to google the claim that is presented.

He also donated $1 million to Elton John's AIDS foundation last month, which would have been well before Delevingne's claim, so you can't say that was done "in response."

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018...tes-1-million-to-elton-johns-aids-foundation/

He hasn't stopped it seems:

As pointed out by Fader, the 78-year-old billionaire gave nearly $200,000 to Republican politicians and Super PACs throughout 2017. The recipients included pro-gun Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner, who was given $5,400 in March; Scott Tipton, a Colorado congressman who opposes same-sex marriage and abortion ($2,700 in August); U.S. Representative Mike Coffman, a pro-life birther ($5,400 in August); as well as Nebraska Sen. Deb Fisher and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

Though the aforementioned politicians received money directly from Anschutz, the biggest donations were made through The Anschutz Corporation, which handed over about $138,000 to the National Republican Senate Committee. The NRSC is an organization chaired by Gardner that aims to increase the Republican senate majority.
 

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Huh, I had no idea Coachella was owned by some big business tycoon. Weird.

Why is she famous? How did it become so? I've never seen her in anything and next thing I know she's in every ad I see
She's from a very rich family, which gave her (and her sister) an easy entrance into the world of modeling and acting. She's ike a slightly more talented Paris Hilton. That said, she does very good stuff for LGBT visibility.
 

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He also owns my favorite hockey team (LA Kings) which as a gay man kinda hurts but I'm not going to let it affect my enjoyment of life and my passions.

And it shouldn't. It's not an all or nothing thing. I mean how many horrible people own teams? That's something you just can't have control over unless he did something flat-out illegal or super awful and the outcry would demand it. The best thing that ever happened to the Clippers was getting rid of Sterling.
 

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Why is she famous? How did it become so? I've never seen her in anything and next thing I know she's in every ad I see


edit: apologies for thread derailing with this off topic question, was not my intention

Nepotism, mostly.


I went back onto her wikipedia page to remind myself and it's actually comical - she probably couldn't be more connected to people who could get her into show business. Her father is very wealthy (and connected), yes, but it goes well beyond that. From wikipedia:

"Her godfather is Condé Nast executive Nicholas Coleridge[16][17][18] and her godmother is actress Joan Collins.[19] Delevingne's maternal grandfather was publishing executive and English Heritage chairman Sir Jocelyn Stevens,[14][17] the nephew of magazine publisher Sir Edward George Warris Hulton and the grandson of newspaper proprietor Sir Edward Hulton, 1st Baronet.[20][21] Her paternal great-grandfather was the Canadian-born British politician Hamar Greenwood, 1st Viscount Greenwood,[8][14] and her maternal grandmother Janie Sheffield was lady-in-waiting to Princess Margaret.[14][22] Through one of her maternal great-great-grandfathers, Sir Lionel Lawson Faudel-Phillips, 3rd Baronet, Delevingne descends from the Anglo-Jewish Faudel-Phillips baronets; two of her ancestors on that line served as Lord Mayor of London.[23][24][25]"

So just a quick run through:

'Joan Collins' is actually Dame Joan Collins, one of the most celebrated actresses in Britain, if not Hollywood.

Sir Jocelyn and Sir Edward George were successful publishers, but you can see that they had some help from their father Sir Edward Hulton (who in turn was born to a self-made publisher). Sir Edward Hulton started a couple of publications which basically went on to merge with the Daily Mail (Daily Dispatch and the Daily Sketch). Why is this significant? Because in 2011 the Daily Mail started a full on offensive to promote the 3 sisters (note the comments asking who the hell they are):

http://www./femail/article-1384661/...-look-shy-retiring--meet-Dynasty-sisters.html

But the real kicker is her godfather. Calling him a 'Conde Nast executive' is technically correct in the same way that calling a head of state a 'politician' is. In reality he basically runs and influences the magazines any aspiring model would care to be in:

"From 1989-2017, he was successively Editorial Director of Condé Nast Britain, Managing Director, Condé Nast Britain (1991-2017), Vice President, Condé Nast International (2000-2012) and President, Condé Nast International, the division of Condé Nast which publishes 139 magazines in 27 international markets, and over 100 websites. British Condé Nast publishes numerous titles including Vogue, Vanity Fair, House & Garden, Tatler, The World of Interiors, Condé Nast Traveller, Glamour, GQ, Brides, Wired, Love and GQ Style, as well as owning the Johansens hotel guides and the Condé Nast College of Fashion and Design."

These publications literally make the careers of models and influence fashion globally. I read something the other week about an ex Vogue fashionista (I forget her name, the one who just left after years at the fashion house) explaining just how much influence they had in creating trends in the fashion world.

I imagine that if you put some effort into it (I literally just google searched the names in the first quoted paragraph) you could track her manufactured career and how the general public were influenced step by step, but it looks like there was just a huge push to make her big from 2011-2012 and it snowballed. She went from 'who is she' to 'I can't remember who she is I just know she's famous'. By 2013 they were making out she was just a 'normal' middle class girl.
 

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I legit have never heard of her before. Googled her and her face did not jog my memory as one of the models I might have seen on on the way to the office. Needless to say, her point is still valid.

She's (was?) a victoria's secret model a few times i think, just another piece of info.

And i agree with her. Sad that Beysus didn't ponder this stuff when she decided to perform there... i guess money.
 
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Huh, I had no idea Coachella was owned by some big business tycoon. Weird.


She's from a very rich family, which gave her (and her sister) an easy entrance into the world of modeling and acting. She's ike a slightly more talented Paris Hilton. That said, she does very good stuff for LGBT visibility.

If rich parents could bought you the carrer Cara has had millions of girl around the world (and Paris Hilton) would have it....but they don't.
 

BBG

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Because being a model does so much for body image and everything surrounding that for women and young girls.
 

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For those uncertain about Cara, just enjoy her eating spicy hot wings. She's pretty cool.

I only kind-of knew who she was before, but her doing this made me just love her.

 

Heshinsi

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Not everyone follows the same shit you do.

And as for why Snake Eater was asking, who a person is is relevant to their statements. It's important context.
Google exists. They could have found that answer for themselves by googling her name. Would have taken less time than making their post lol.
 

hexanaut

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Good for her. I only know of her from the GTA V pop radio station (and that Luc Besson movie).
 

krazen

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I love the hypocrisy going around those claiming religious & moral superiority. Give money against the gheys but book a festival that has a sizable lgbtq representation for dem dollars. anti-immigration billionaires that have business segments that use migrant worker labor, people who rage against #blm but own minority filled sports teams, etc.
 

siddx

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Ah I see peoole have already begun trying to paint her as the bad person in this. Unsurprising. Pathetic but unsurprising.

Anshultz donated money to repulsive human beings just last year. He is a piece of shit.
 

BBG

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Lol. Equating police brutality to modeling influence? Cara isn't there pushing skinny jeans on kids, but cops sure as hell love pushing bullets on minorities.
So you think her job means she isn't responsible for what the industry does in regards to body image for girls? She may be good on LGBT rights but to call someone out on something while being guilty of perpetuating something so toxic like modeling industry is really disgusting, in my opinion.