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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 |OT| Six Seasons and a Seventh
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Right? Like the whole gimmick was based on that lol
^ can't he build any, or just the ones he builds are imperfect?
I think AIDA built a limited number of Ivanov LMDs and somewhere along the line, his head was implanted on one of the LMDs. After AIDA died, it has been mentioned that they could only build the identity-less LMD soldiers that have been serving as HYDRA mooks.
The Hydra mooks are probably controlled by Ivanov the same way that his look-a-likes are, via the main head, but are unable to take on his personality due to the limitation.
They probably ran out of Look-a-likes and this was the final Ivanov.
This also means that we won't have any Hydra mooks now.
The Hydra mooks are probably controlled by Ivanov the same way that his look-a-likes are, via the main head, but are unable to take on his personality due to the limitation.
They probably ran out of Look-a-likes and this was the final Ivanov.
This also means that we won't have any Hydra mooks now.
Just finished S5E09. I love time travel stories that go dark way fast and involve paradoxes and time loops, but I hope to god this isn't the final season, and I hope its explained sufficiently why and how they got there. Like each season transitions and folds into each other neatly:
S1 to S2 was Hydra Ward and the destruction of shield
S2 to S3 was the rise of the inhumans
S3 to S4 was Radcliffe
And now S5 just comes out of nowhere with Daisy being the apocalypse and a time travelling monolith. Okay, I know the Ghost Rider thread probably comes into play, but they could have gone anywhere with Shield being disbanded(again lol), the lmds, dark matter and the supernatural, hell the way GR talked about hell just being a parallel world and what not, I would have even accepted a season with Memphisto as the big bad. Again, I love time travel, but it feels so forced. Worst way to end the show if it indeed is the final season.
S1 to S2 was Hydra Ward and the destruction of shield
S2 to S3 was the rise of the inhumans
S3 to S4 was Radcliffe
And now S5 just comes out of nowhere with Daisy being the apocalypse and a time travelling monolith. Okay, I know the Ghost Rider thread probably comes into play, but they could have gone anywhere with Shield being disbanded(again lol), the lmds, dark matter and the supernatural, hell the way GR talked about hell just being a parallel world and what not, I would have even accepted a season with Memphisto as the big bad. Again, I love time travel, but it feels so forced. Worst way to end the show if it indeed is the final season.
Ruby is boring and I really hate her Lily Rose Derp face.
Also not a fan of that weird idea of bringing back the most boring characters from past seasons like Creel, the superior or Von Strucker. I guess they're not expensive, but after Kasius in the first half, it's hard to take Hale & her shitty crew seriously.
Also not a fan of that weird idea of bringing back the most boring characters from past seasons like Creel, the superior or Von Strucker. I guess they're not expensive, but after Kasius in the first half, it's hard to take Hale & her shitty crew seriously.
That's a writing necessity though, that doesn't make her more interesting to me. They could have brought back shitty Lincoln and somehow make him a villain outplaying Shield at every corner and he would still put me to sleep.
Well, Hale has at least some sort of screen presence, I'll give her that.
Yeah I guess bringing characters back to use them as antagonists or deepen them a bit more would be pretty boring.
Also this whole "invincible" thing makes no sense, even if we set aside that Fitz is the one who's convinced the loop can't be broken so that should be his idea and not Jemma's, I mean Yo-yo has met her future self, just slash her forehead or cut her ear and see if the scar heals or something.
I mean, iirc Coulson kept the scar from Loki's staff so even if the Kree resurrect Yo-Yo the scar would have still been there. There are easier and less risky methods to see if you can change the future. You can also blow up some levels of the lightouse or something. And why does Simmons not realize the logical inconsistency of saying they're invincible and litterally two minutes later that they can change what happens.
This show is usually good at avoiding or at least addressing this kind of stuff, so it really bothers me. I guess it has been talked about here already tho.
I mean, iirc Coulson kept the scar from Loki's staff so even if the Kree resurrect Yo-Yo the scar would have still been there. There are easier and less risky methods to see if you can change the future. You can also blow up some levels of the lightouse or something. And why does Simmons not realize the logical inconsistency of saying they're invincible and litterally two minutes later that they can change what happens.
This show is usually good at avoiding or at least addressing this kind of stuff, so it really bothers me. I guess it has been talked about here already tho.
She knows the kree resurrect her, so most likely she dies after meeting them, and she knows they try to save Coulson at some point and shouldn't (why has she not said anything about this yet) so it makes some sense she would believe she's safe for now, especially since she seems convinced they can't do much about the loop anyway.
It makes far less sense for Jemma and the way she usually thinks (although she did mention trying to think differently) to believe she can't die until some arbitrarily decided point in time, and still say they can change the future, because it doesn't add up and she shouldn't need even a minute to realize that.
i understood that Kassius constantly killed and resurrected her, so until he gets her, she's "invincible"
EDIT: welp, too slow, haha
It's based on Deke. Deke and his mom never knew anything other than that future. Plus I believe he was an infant when they died. That means they get significantly old enough. Plus everyone assumes the loop is still occurring, and as long as the loop is sustained, then they live. At least until they break it.
Keep in mind, May also makes it to the future. As evidenced when old Robin passed a bunch of visions to her.
What if this is Stonewall and not Absorbing Man, though?
I'm catching up with the two last episodes, and was surprised to see Raina. That was nice. But honestly, I've forgotten about that plot thread and all about Quinn that it really didn't pay off anything to me. Now I want to go back and rewatch the show from the first season. I am loving Yo-Yo's arms, they so cool and she is growing to become my favorite speedster in any media. I just love the whole twist of her power not only being speed but also having her return to her starting spot like a yoyo. I do not like what is happening with Jemma and her being so convinced of being invincible welp. Btw, how could Creel get Coulson back to life with the use of the Gravitonium?
It wasn't Gravitonium. He channeled electricity to essentially turn himself into a defibrillator.
Gravitonium is extremely interesting.
It has two personalities dueling inside it.
Like, the fuck.
It has two personalities dueling inside it.
Like, the fuck.
I managed to catch up (I actually missed a few episdoes). Holy shit at that Fitz heel turn. I know it was already done last season, but you could at least hand wave that by saying "Oh, that's just how he was in the Framework". I feel like this time, he could have convinced Daisy that he could remove the inhibitor chip without seriously damaging her, or if she was afraid that she'd destroy Earth, he could have convinced her that they'd all be dead if she didn't manipulate the Grativonium to seal the rift.
Also, Fitz, Simmons, and Yo-Yo thinking that they're invincible seems really crazy, if somewhat understandable. I couldn't believe that Simmons essentially played a game of Russian roulette, won, and said "Let's do it again two more times!". I felt like it was out of character, but I guess 1) she really wanted to prove her point and 2) it also served as a way to get Fitz out of his cell.
On a side note; Duane, I was wondering the same thing about Creel and Jack Murdock. There's no way that Creel on AoS could be the same Creel from the "Carl Crusher Creel vs Battlin' Jack Murdock" poster seen in Daredevil if he never stopped aging. Then again, he could potentially be that Creel's son, although I don't think that's the case.
Also, Fitz, Simmons, and Yo-Yo thinking that they're invincible seems really crazy, if somewhat understandable. I couldn't believe that Simmons essentially played a game of Russian roulette, won, and said "Let's do it again two more times!". I felt like it was out of character, but I guess 1) she really wanted to prove her point and 2) it also served as a way to get Fitz out of his cell.
On a side note; Duane, I was wondering the same thing about Creel and Jack Murdock. There's no way that Creel on AoS could be the same Creel from the "Carl Crusher Creel vs Battlin' Jack Murdock" poster seen in Daredevil if he never stopped aging. Then again, he could potentially be that Creel's son, although I don't think that's the case.
Fitz isn't even a villain and hasn't at any point other than The Doctor durinf Hydra World. Like, he crossed a very big line to do the absolute necessary thing.
Love that Episode 15 is the What the Fuck episode again. Missing a Few Berries Talbot and the acid russian roulette made this episode, and then you have Robins visions as well as the Gravitonium scene in the end. I thought that billionare was locked up, not gone forever.
Clip from tomorrow's episode:
Okay, I'm going to take a wild and crazy shot in the dark and predict
Okay, I'm going to take a wild and crazy shot in the dark and predict
that Fitz completely snaps from the amount of stress he's under from him and Simmons being held captive, and he turns back into the DR, killing Ruby and Hale like no big deal and then he becomes the main villain for the rest of the season. He gets killed in the final episode by Simmons, which would be a good reason for that episode to be called "The End" (it'd be the end of that Fitz), and the team goes searching for frozen in space Fitz in the final scene of the season.
Yes, I suppose that's a fair point, but I still feel like he could have convinced Daisy of that instead of forcing it on her and potentially paralyzing her while doing it.
Ah, so a lot like
Willow from the final episodes of Buffy S6.
Obviously, it's been done before, but I feel like AoS could definitely twist it around in an interesting way. I'm sure it'd even be part of the time loop.
Potential spoiler regarding your theory based on the guest star list for the final episodes:
There are 5 episodes left. Dove Cameron is listed as a guest star for tomorrow's episode but she is not in the two episodes after. We don't have descriptions for the final two episodes of the season yet.
No guest cast list has been released for the last two episodes yet.
Fitz asked Daisy if she ever would have said yes and she responded that she wouldn't.
It was literally the only way, horrifying as it is.
As someone who's been in a police station where this has once happened the answer is sometimes these things happen.
