Yeah thats the Whirligig saw and 52 is pretty low. If you're desperate though you can get to it's location without fighting but it's trickey
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Bloodborne |OT| Grant them eyes
- Thread starter Cornbread78
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I love the Whirlygig and the Amigdayla Arm. They're both DLC though. The thing is, most weapons are pretty different than the rest, so you won't find a one to one upgrade like Dark Souls. This means you can beat the whole game with whatever weapon you like the most, but you also will only level two or three at a stretch.
You're so close to the end I would recommend finishing it, and the final boss is definitely up your alley. Unless you get the DLC, because that's the sort of challenge and bosses you're looking for, I guarantee.
I do have the DLC, which is why I'm putting it on hold. I doubt I'll be able to finish it before I get God of War, which will probably keep me occupied for a few weeks. I'll get to it eventually though. :)
You are very close to the end and the remaining part of the game is a marked improvement over Y'G. You might want to get to the final boss (you'll know), save the game and then load that save onto a USB, clear the game first and then load the unbeaten save back from the USB to beat the DLC. (I hear that the DLC is much, much more difficult on NG+.)
I'm planning to do the dlc before the final boss, so no need to for backup save shenanigans. I'm happy waiting to finish the game until after I play through The Old Hunters.
yo what those 4 areas pretty much break open the story of the game
And while I can't argue that those areas are super fun to play, their atmosphere carried them for me that I enjoyed them anyway. Those last three areas you listed are pretty much the creepiest places for me. Well, they were for my first couple of playthroughs! Point is though, lots of interesting lore tied to those areas, especially regarding the different factions.
I think this is where your over-leveling has made these bosses trivial to the point of being mindless mashing for you. You started Forbidden Woods at BL70, yeah? Plenty of people finish the game about 5-10 levels higher. To be fair, TOR and CE aren't super interesting enough to fight at whatever level, so I'll give you that. Rom has never been a big problem for me, but I think fighting it over-leveled really highlights how fast it can go down on NG. The minions and the magic attacks don't become a threat when you can burst it down quickly. But Ebrietas is one boss I've always thought to be a good challenge though. Never been a mash R1 kinda fight for me! The thing has plenty of attacks that you have to react to differently, and the openings are never quite safe and open for long.
Made it to OoK last night after not playing for a while. I knew people thought he was hard, but wtf at his second form. He just deals so much damage.
Also, I'm going to count the double giant fishman fight the actual final boss. That area is just bs.
Also, I'm going to count the double giant fishman fight the actual final boss. That area is just bs.
They're pretty easy to cheese from the ledge if you get the first one's attention with a throwing knife and have a weapon with a long reach. Facing them head-on just seems suicidal.
Anyway, I finally beat the game yesterday after playing it on and off for what must be a year at this point (I don't get as much time to play video games as I used to. *sigh*). Had some random thoughts...
- I adore the story for this one. The pivot from werewolf plague to cosmic horror is just so damn well done, easily the best piece of Lovecraftian fiction I've ever experienced.
- Love the trick weapons. There're fewer weapons than any given Souls game, but the diversity of unique styles is way better, and I never get tired of the transformation gimmick.
- In the end, I think I slightly prefer Souls combat and build variety. The fewer stats, un-upgradable armor, and near absence of shields leave you with only one way to play, whereas the Souls games in my experience have multiple viable playstyles. Might only be my perception, but there seems to be a distinct lean toward strength weapons in the game versus skill scaling ones.
- I kind of fucking hate visceral attacks. Backstabbing requiring a fully charged R2 attack means that you'll only ever pull it off on stationary, unaware enemies, and there's like zero consistency in determining what can or cannot be parried and when. i.e. the Church dudes in Cathedral Ward can be shot literally at any point in their attack to parry them, while other enemies might have a window of only a few frames. So if I shoot something and still eat a brick to the face, did I shoot too soon? Too late? Can it be parried at all? There's no way of knowing, so usually it's just safer to not try at all because guessing wrong means you lose 80% of your health.
- The game needs to make bloodstone chunks available for purchase at a reasonable price. 20 insight is fucking ridiculous. This is a problem because once you get past a certain point in the game, you can't really experiment with new weapons because you'd need to invest a large amount of a scarce upgrade material to make it viable. God help you if you change your mind, because you'll be spending a week farming werewolves and chalice dungeons to get more.
- Level design was pretty great with lots of loops back to lanterns as you opened more and more shortcuts.
- As someone who fucking hates being invaded, I liked the system they had here where you don't even get opened to invasion until you already summon someone else to your game, and even then you can stop it entirely if you kill the bell maiden. The couple areas where you have bell maidens regardless of whether or not you've summoned anyone certainly keeps you on your toes.
- Creature designs are just fantastic.
- Wasn't a fan of the Chalice dungeons. Even the static ones felt very samey from one to another, like there weren't enough building blocks to draw from to make anything interesting after the first few of them. In theory the idea of endless Soulsborne where you can apply modifiers to difficulty/invasion status etc. is awesome, but I don't think it was executed particularly well.
Really? You don't pick up that many items with significant lore (except some Choir outfits). I feel like I did a pretty good job of searching all the areas and was disappointed at what I found. I'll give you the creepy factor, especially UCW, but I didn't feel like it paid off with any lore. Unless I'm totally oblivious and missed all of it. I need to watch ENB's let's play of those areas, he tends to do a pretty good job of highlighting all the lore items in the level.
Yeah I'm over-leveled but honestly I prefer being over- than under-leveled. I just think those bosses are not well designed. TOR and CE are just boring fights. I could see how Rom would be a challenge (I almost got one-shot a few times by the meteor shower), but I still wouldn't say it's a "fun" fight. Ebrietas is the only one that I think approaches "fun" territory, and I did die to her a few times. But I generally prefer humanoid bosses to big blob-like monsters, so that's probably why I found the last few bosses to be a slog.
Silly me just realized that weapon scaling improves with upgrades. I was wondering why LHB (which I have at +7) was B/B and all my other weapons were D/E or D/D. I got the blades of mercy and I thought "This looks like a SKL weapon, why is it only C?". And then I upgraded it and, boom, now it's an A. Cool.
All this time I assumed weapons had set a fixed scaling modifier like Dark Souls. That's how it works in Dark Souls, right?
All this time I assumed weapons had set a fixed scaling modifier like Dark Souls. That's how it works in Dark Souls, right?
No, scaling would increase with weapon upgrades in Dark Souls as well.
I'm preeeeetty sure that the main route is lined with lanterns if you can find your way to some.
They give you some shining coins right at the start of the woods part, use them like breadcumbs to dot around and show where you've already explored.
The undead giant with the chains is such an asshole. I'd much rather fight the watchdog.
Yeah I uninstalled the game because of it.
I believe so, that's the one I was doing. I'm on the next level down now. I took a break after getting stuck on that boss.
Damn, I'm not worthy of my avatar.
I beat The One Reborn today. It's the only boss so far that I've beaten on my first try apart from Cleric Beast. Just kill the Bell Ladies, and then rush to smack him from behind with my +9 LHB with Fire Paper. Went down fast. Reminded me of The Rotten in DS2, except much better designed. The Rotten looked almost comical whereas the One Reborn was truly disturbing and appropiately disgusting. And the fact that it might have something to do with the Mensis Ritual and the way they build up to something horrible having happened in Yahar'Gul since its population was seemingly wiped in massive petrification, and the fact that the Yahar'Gul hunters are explicitely stated to have kidnapped people from Yharnam contribute to so much build up and tension that the boss seems like a necessary climax to it all. The Rotten on the other hand...is just there. (Like almost everything in DS2).
I really liked the Unseen Village. At the beginning I was lukewarm about the area since all the enemies seemed recycled from Central Yahrnam, apart from the Bell Lady buff. But the way they eventually lead you back to the Hypogean Gaol and show you that something really ominous went down, with all the snatchers suddenly dead and the lamp broken. The whispering and the petrified corpses hugging the wall were chilling, as were the enemies. Truly disturbing stuff but very impactful and yet I can't help to explore every nook and cranny of the area, speficically since I knew there had to be a way to open the door next to the broken lamp.
I only hit a wall when I ran into the 3 NPC Hunters, which turned me away from the area for a bit which led me to procrastinate and not move forward. I didn't have a lot of time to play this week and when I did play I mostly ran some of the Chalice Dungeons which I enjoy much more than I thought I would. I think I should take a break from them lest I end up burned out of the game before finishing it. I want to savor the juicy bits. I eventually came back to Yahar'Gul and cheesed the hunters since they don't respawn.
I'm enjoying this game immensely. I don't want it to end. I'm glad I still have the DLC to look forward to before finishing it.
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Unseen Village is one of my favorite levels in some regards (but fuck those bell maidens...). Had all the Gothic sensibility and much of the complexity that made Central Yharnam give such a strong impression, and it boats at some of the strongest environmental storytelling in the game as you make your way to ground level on the way to the boss and find the walls are made out of petrified screaming people. Whatever the School of Mensis did, it was fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up.
Lorewise, it seems a bit dodgy, though. Its existence and location are supposed to be some huge secret, but it's a sprawling city only a quick jog away from the highest, most visible place in Yharnam?
Lorewise, it seems a bit dodgy, though. Its existence and location are supposed to be some huge secret, but it's a sprawling city only a quick jog away from the highest, most visible place in Yharnam?
I randomly decided to try Fire Paper against Darkbeast Paarl after it killed me twice.
It literally cut through it like butter.
It literally cut through it like butter.
Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty, Orphan of Kos is IMPOSSIBLE. I am about to giving up playing videogames for the rest of my life...(prolly not)
Any tips to cheese/beat this loud bastard?
Any tips to cheese/beat this loud bastard?
I've got Orphan of Kos and one other boss left in the DLC, then the last couple bosses of the main game. I'm working through chalice dungeons but I really think I'm going to put the platinum on the backburner.
One of my friends recently finished out the DLC in NG+ has since been referring to Orphan as "THE MOTHERFUCKER" and after trying to fight him a couple times in NG, I already see why. That fight is a little rough.
I beat Mergo's Wet Nurse. So I assume I have to go and clear the other Nightmare, right?
The Hunter's Dream is on fire now, and Gehrman wants to murder me. The Doll is like This is Fine.
Without spoiling anything, how far am I from beating the game? I'd like to do the DLC before finishing it since I keep hearing how hard it is in NG+.
The Hunter's Dream is on fire now, and Gehrman wants to murder me. The Doll is like This is Fine.
Without spoiling anything, how far am I from beating the game? I'd like to do the DLC before finishing it since I keep hearing how hard it is in NG+.
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Speaking to Gerhman is the point of no return, so do everything you want to do, including the DLC, before that.
Excellent. I'll do the other nightmare then and I'll poke a bit around Upper Cathedral Ward.
I'm currently level 70 and I'm sort of planning on capping it there since I don't want to be too overleveled. Or would the DLC be too difficult for me at that level?
Depends on how you've specced obviously, but I didn't have a stat higher than 30 and I found it super manageable.
Here's where I am statswise. I'm using a +10 LHB. Most enemies and bosses don't give me too much trouble at this point. Except when they freak me out, like those Frenzy inducing brain things in Nightmare of Mensis, or the Insight sucking tentacle headed enemies. I lost 12 Insight while exploring Upper Cathedral Ward this morning.
I've got 2 of these chords but I have no idea what they do, or where to find a third one, since I'm running blind. So I shouldn't fight him if I have only 2? I don't want to accidentally finish the game.
You have to consume 3 in order to fight Moon Presence. There are 4 to collect, but the 2 you probably don't have are NPC quest related, at least one is fully missable not sure about the other.
Your damage output is fine for the DLC, everything hits so hard though you might want to put some in to VIT - I always overlevel though, so you might do just fine!
Your damage output is fine for the DLC, everything hits so hard though you might want to put some in to VIT - I always overlevel though, so you might do just fine!
Yeah, this would be my advice as well. DPS should be solid, but try not to get hit. I feel the DLC is pretty front-loaded with its hardest-hitting enemies, so once you get past the Hunter's Nightmare there are only bosses and some avoidable/evadable heavyweight mobs that pose a threat.
That has to hurt. I've only gotten him down to about half so far. My condolences.
Been fighting this bastard for the best part of 2 weeks on and off lmao
That was my experience with O&S in DS1. It got to a point in which I'd only do a couple of attempts in the morning and a couple before bed because I'd get so flustered and frustrated that I'd play progressively worse. It took me about two weeks and over a 100 tries.
Reading this thread has made me dread that fight in Bloodborne now that I'm heading into the DLC.
Or as some say, Kosm
I. Am. Fuming
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Oh, oh my god...I am in pain.
I. Am. Fuming
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We've all been there man, we've all been there, hahaha.
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That's the part where you just shoot the bitch until it dies. With the addition of bone marrow ash, it would probably be one shot.
It's not going to be easy, that's for sure. The unfortunate thing about the structure of this and Dark Souls 1 is that the DLCs obviously expect you to be at a higher level than the end of the main game, and beating the last boss for both games automatically put you in NG+. So what usually ends up happening for people who come into these games late, they stop right before fighting the final boss to do the DLC, and then come back to the final boss at a way higher level than the game expects them to be, and that final boss just becomes a total cakewalk and feels anticlimactic.