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Sorian

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Ty4on

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Oct 25, 2017
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Norway
To be fair, it is kind of a weird popularity contest. It's like you're playing mafia while also playing a meta level of mafia because you want to do good in the game and also be a recognizable name.

I still kind of want to see how they handle Blarg.
If people can freely vote them it's just a fight between which community can muster up the most votes.

I feel it's the best way of doing it when you can't really go by merit.
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
If people can freely vote them it's just a fight between which community can muster up the most votes.

I feel it's the best way of doing it when you can't really go by merit.

Oh no, I totally agree with you, I was just saying that it is a popularity contest. If anything, is maybe open voting to everyone who's participated for the finals specifically but that's not a huge change.
 

Include

Member
Oct 25, 2017
836
I already made you all proud two years ago. I believe I still hold the record for most votes attained to make it to the final championship game. My qualifier match is worth a read (maybe skip the outrageously long day 1). If you think I've played well here then you're in for a shock.

Edit: Season 3, Game 5

Thanks for narrowing down :) your first post in that game is a stark reminder of the Volcano Island post that got you mod killed.

By the way were you scum in that game? Who were your scum buddies if yes?
 

Brazil

Actual Brazilian
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Oct 24, 2017
18,435
São Paulo, Brazil
If people can freely vote them it's just a fight between which community can muster up the most votes.

I feel it's the best way of doing it when you can't really go by merit.
Yeah, you are right. It just seems like the odds will always be against the scum players.

Which makes you a perfect fit to represent our community and everything it stands for! :D
You're not wrong :P

Brazil you could do it i believe in you
You guys are too good to me.
 

Sawneeks

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,845
Still believe Hecht would do great too, though I don't know if Admin duties and Mafia games mix well. :p

Which makes you a perfect fit to represent our community and everything it stands for! :D

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Hecht

Blue light comes around
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
9,736
Priorities, heck. Who needs family, friends, or a job if you get to take home bragging rights of being a better Mafia player than Sorian? AND it would come with winning the Mafia Championships too!
I already know I'm better. I don't need randos' validation :P
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
Thanks for narrowing down :) your first post in that game is a stark reminder of the Volcano Island post that got you mod killed.

By the way were you scum in that game? Who were your scum buddies if yes?

Honestly, it is a really really good read if you don't know my alignment but:

Yes, I'm scum. I don't remember their names but my three partners are the three people lynched day 1, 2 and 3
 

Hecht

Blue light comes around
Administrator
Oct 24, 2017
9,736
Sorian ran over everyone with a double decker bus in that game
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
You can trace my cockiness in this community directly to NX but that game is a close second ^_^
 

Ty4on

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Oct 25, 2017
2,953
Norway
Last season there were 12/12, 36/12, 48/24 and 72/48 games being played. 48/24 was the most popular so you don't need to be glued to the screen all day, but 12/12 is the most fun. They also try to group by timezones and you can swap games just after they've announced groups.
 

Sorian

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
9,964
It ended really early and IMO it was much more a team effort in that game rather than individual performances

Yes, but everything has to be about me!!!!!111!!!!

Last season there were 12/12, 36/12, 48/24 and 72/48 games being played. 48/24 was the most popular so you don't need to be glued to the screen all day, but 12/12 is the most fun. They also try to group by timezones and you can swap games just after they've announced groups.

12/12 is super fun but is obviously a big time commitment and it needs to be stressed that the whole thing is.
 

Ty4on

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Oct 25, 2017
2,953
Norway
12/12 is super fun but is obviously a big time commitment and it needs to be stressed that the whole thing is.
Yes and no. 12/12 is over within a week which helps a lot.
How many games do you have to play?
Last year's had qualifiers first which is just one game for each person and from those one person is chosen by voting to go to the final. After the qualifiers some jury picks out a wildcard selection which in the last season was an average of two from each qualifier game and enough to fill two extra wildcard games and from those games the final finalists were chosen. Then the final was played.
For most players that's just one game, for those that do well two games, and for a couple of players three games.
I have a feeling I'd get ripped to shreds...
The level of play really isn't that high, especially in the qualifiers. Most players come from communities similar to ours and don't play it super seriously.
That's not to say there aren't great players in them, but rather that it's not all super mafia players that'll intimidate you. A way more prominent feature was the culture clash because everybody's used to their community and at most just a handful of players have played with each other so the reads are quite vague and general early on.

If you're reading the games though note that mine was a bit of an outlier in bad play with a town that just didn't mesh. Sorian's game had a much stronger town and play overall and is probably more representative.

Edit: The consensus my season was that Game 9 had the best play and I think five players from it went on to be picked for the wildcards. It had a really good endgame with the longest mafia post I have ever read. I timed myself and it took me 10 minutes to read it.
 
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Sorian

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,964
Yes and no. 12/12 is over within a week which helps a lot.

Last year's had qualifiers first which is just one game for each person and from those one person is chosen by voting to go to the final. After the qualifiers some jury picks out a wildcard selection which in the last season was an average of two from each qualifier game and enough to fill two extra wildcard games and from those games the final finalists were chosen. Then the final was played.
For most players that's just one game, for those that do well two games, and for a couple of players three games.

The level of play really isn't that high, especially in the qualifiers. Most players come from communities similar to ours and don't play it super seriously.
That's not to say there aren't great players in them, but rather that it's not all super mafia players that'll intimidate you. A way more prominent feature was the culture clash because everybody's used to their community and at most just a handful of players have played with each other so the reads are quite vague and general early on.

If you're reading the games though note that mine was a bit of an outlier in bad play with a town that just didn't mesh. Sorian's game had a much stronger town and play overall and is probably more representative.

Edit: The consensus my season was that Game 9 had the best play and I think five players from it went on to be picked for the wildcards. It had a really good endgame with the longest mafia post I have ever read. I timed myself and it took me 10 minutes to read it.

I read the post in 30 seconds

Conclusion: scum was alll that was important
 

Natiko

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Oct 25, 2017
9,263
LOL as I mentioned to someone else, I apparently radiate scumminess no matter what I do so I would probably go down in flames.
I'm pretty sure I threw the game I was in by tunneling and got myself mislynched in lylo. You'd be fiiiine. I think you'd likely benefit from no one in the game having any association with you either.
 

Ty4on

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Oct 25, 2017
2,953
Norway
LOL as I mentioned to someone else, I apparently radiate scumminess no matter what I do so I would probably go down in flames.
Depends on who you're playing against. The MU meta is to look for towniness as opposed to scumminess which can really help you as an active player. Good scum play is generally being able to post a lot and seem like an active townie.
I'm pretty sure I threw the game I was in by tunneling and got myself mislynched in lylo. You'd be fiiiine. I think you'd likely benefit from no one in the game having any association with you either.
The game was already in the shitter before you joined lol
bop had a really bad game there (spec chat was confused as to weather he was scum or just playing a really bad town game as he's usually a much better player) and town really fell apart when dLGN died.
From what I remembered of post chat game it was often brought up that the gbs lynch should've never happened and that that was when the game went down hill.
You also joined right in the middle of that. I'm sure they would've gotten a different impression had they seen your play early on. I'm pretty sure your analytical play would've gotten you a much more positive light and they'd have a clearer view of your thoughts.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Oct 25, 2017
15,029
Yeah, it sounds like it was more situation around Natiko than Natiko there. But maybe I'm biased, as a member of the Natiko fan club.

And sure, I mean, I'd do it. I'm always up for anything that seems like it could potentially be a bad idea . I just think there are a heck of a lot better players around.
 

Natiko

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Oct 25, 2017
9,263
Depends on who you're playing against. The MU meta is to look for towniness as opposed to scumminess which can really help you as an active player. Good scum play is generally being able to post a lot and seem like an active townie.

The game was already in the shitter before you joined lol
bop had a really bad game there (spec chat was confused as to weather he was scum or just playing a really bad town game as he's usually a much better player) and town really fell apart when dLGN died.
From what I remembered of post chat game it was often brought up that the gbs lynch should've never happened and that that was when the game went down hill.
You also joined right in the middle of that. I'm sure they would've gotten a different impression had they seen your play early on. I'm pretty sure your analytical play would've gotten you a much more positive light and they'd have a clearer view of your thoughts.
My biggest downfall was leaning too much on voting behavior. When I came in there was so many posts already though, and while I read it all I couldn't exactly go and take many notes because the day I subbed in I was a lynch candidate and needed to spend more time engaging. So I ended up finding some specific lynch that stuck out to me and made me confident one of two specific people were scum. Neither was and we lost. Whoops. It was also the game that scarred me as far as trusting if emotion is genuine. One player got really touchy and I thought there was no way he would do it as scum. Again wrong which is partially why I ended up with three straight games of confrontation over here and ultimately stepped back. It was an interesting experience though, it's different playing in such a pure game like it was that year at least.

Yeah, it sounds like it was more situation around Natiko than Natiko there. But maybe I'm biased, as a member of the Natiko fan club.

And sure, I mean, I'd do it. I'm always up for anything that seems like it could potentially be a bad idea . I just think there are a heck of a lot better players around.
Well, you can always toss it in and just see. We send a player and a backup after all. I think last year we only had..three nominees maybe?
 

Pedro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,967
Until now, no one has put their name forward (and there's one day left). I'll super understand if we don't get nominees until tomorrow (it's a big task, and they didn't give us a lot of days to prepare), but please don't feel you shouldn't nominate yourself because you aren't good/experienced/whatever enough <3
 

Geno

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
9,812
Thessaloniki
I have the free time, I just didn't nominate because I'm not good enough, if anyone else wants to go I won't, but let's send one.
 

Roytheone

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,161
So, with the fortnite 50 VS 50 mode going on is anyone interested in

Mafiera (and a bunch of random dudes) VS the world!

tomorrow? I could play from 8 pm cest.
 

Ty4on

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,953
Norway
Don't worry about having to be the best player on the site. If I did I would've never played lol
The start of my game had some discussion about me being a bad player even :P

Last year there was a small practice game for people new to the site and there will probably be something similar this year.
My biggest downfall was leaning too much on voting behavior. When I came in there was so many posts already though, and while I read it all I couldn't exactly go and take many notes because the day I subbed in I was a lynch candidate and needed to spend more time engaging. So I ended up finding some specific lynch that stuck out to me and made me confident one of two specific people were scum. Neither was and we lost. Whoops. It was also the game that scarred me as far as trusting if emotion is genuine. One player got really touchy and I thought there was no way he would do it as scum. Again wrong which is partially why I ended up with three straight games of confrontation over here and ultimately stepped back. It was an interesting experience though, it's different playing in such a pure game like it was that year at least.
Sock? I didn't have a strong read of them, but I got bad feels from the out of nowhere suspicion of me in my last day.
That's also my one good read of that game lol
Bad reads are the best for practice though. My biggest evolution as a player is in reads that were completely off base. In the practice game I joined I completely wrote off a scum because I liked their first few posts.
 

Natiko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,263
Yep, it was sock. Going in emotion was clearly a weak spot for me as I tended to believe it in all instances. Then that backfired so I instead became skeptical of it which did not go over wel here. I've just never been able to find the right balance.
 
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RetroMG

Community Resettler
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Oct 25, 2017
6,738
So, with the fortnite 50 VS 50 mode going on is anyone interested in

Mafiera (and a bunch of random dudes) VS the world!

tomorrow? I could play from 8 pm cest.

I'm way down for some Team Fortnite, but Sundays are generally no good for me. Maybe I'll poll interest for an inpromptu game on Monday around the same time, assuming I'm not going to a job interview.
 

Pedro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,967
hi hi, everyone! After a few days, the period for nominations for the Mafia Championship is now over, and I have some news to share...


For a while, we weren't receiving names and I was worried that we wouldn't be able to send someone to fight for our cause. But everything changed when, suddenly, a valiant champion appeared and, with conviction, said:

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As she was the only nominee, she was automatically chosen as our representative at the tournament.

I would ask you all to send your best wishes to... Dr. Monkey !!! That she may catch all the lies, win the trust of her fellow players and get us a sweet trophy \o/
 

Zippedpinhead

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,747
All the luck Dr Monkey! May you crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their forums...
 
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