She is gonna sue most likely and is definitely gonna win.
Hope the officers are fired and never allowed to work again in law enforcement.
Hope the officers are fired and never allowed to work again in law enforcement.
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Black Woman Dragged, Exposed And Arrested In Waffle House Over Plastic Utensils
- Thread starter asmith906
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Why were the cops called to begin with? The woman just wanted to speak to a manager. Pretty sure store policy is NOT to call the cops on anyone who wants to speak to a manager.
Of course, the cops are responsible for 95% of the situation, but i'm not letting Waffle House employees off the hook on this one.
There is surveillance footage of her jumping on a chair and yelling at staff.
I see. In that case, I apologize to the Waffle House employees in question.
Seems weird that the police wouldn't include that during their press conference today. In fact, the woman assaulted appeared to restrain her friend, but then got heated herself. Also didn't see any alcoholic beverages, and the victim, doesn't appear intoxicated, only angry and agitated. The whole thing happened so fast, the cop must have been around the corner.
http://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/city-issues-statement-on-viral-waffle-house-arrest-video
Also doesn't seem to line up with this witness account, and she has already said she would testify in defense of the victim.
"We have to wait for all the facts"
*instantly believes the first unconfirmed thing that puts the black woman in a negative light*
*instantly believes the first unconfirmed thing that puts the black woman in a negative light*
There's been more detail added to the story in this link, particularly about the alcohol, and the security footage being played at the police press conference. It would appear the original story was nowhere near complete, and there were threats of violence towards the employees.
To be surprised at this point would require a fair amount of work.
Pussy-ass nazi police just brutalizing another woman because they are in fact cowards and psychopaths.
This is why the sarcastic "let's wait for the facts" trope is so stupid.
Lol and behold, facts matter.
The "sleeperhold" was banned from police use because it could easily turn into a choke, but I guess a straight out choke is A-OK.
Didn't seem like they did matter, beyond them being asked to leave. If a witness couldn't even tell if the victims were drunk. I'm assuming they were using the survalience footage to look for the "They were no saints" card to be played. In the video it didn't look like a person that needed to be rag dolled.
I doubt it. She was asked to leave and didn't. If every person who was asked to leave, did not comply and was forcibly arrested sued and won and the cops got fired, there would be no cops left. You could argue whether or not that would be a good thing, but by the letter of the law, these cops did nothing wrong.
So, it's multiple witnesses vs some lady on facebook.
Well this happened near me. Originally there was outrage because the body cam footage had not been released, but once it was opinions quickly changed. The original narrative was that this girl was hanging out with friends when a cop interrupted them and forced himself on her. People were livid.
All this video tells me is that for every 1 of these instances caught on tape, there are 100 more that haven't been documented of police literally abusing citizens.
Edited because it seems like there was SOME justification for police to be called. That still doesn't justify threatening to break her arm, choking her, etc.
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True, but it sounds like these ladies were not sober. I wish I could say this would never happen to a sober black lady, but c'mon.
Also, this happens all the time to drunk, methed up young white women.
Eh methed out is some other level.
That said I'm one of those no fun allowed that refuses to drink so I never had this problem thankfully.
This is some
A. Fucked up shit
B. Needless escalation of a nothing of a situation
C. Just one more example of why we need massive, sweeping policing reform and oversight in this country
A. Fucked up shit
B. Needless escalation of a nothing of a situation
C. Just one more example of why we need massive, sweeping policing reform and oversight in this country
What sort of call was made to the police to get them to come out. Did they make something up to make it sound more serious... or is just "there's some black folks causing us some hassle" enough to get them out. Some officer rubbing his hands with glee at the terror he is about to inflict upon some poor undeserving soul.
America, you're fucked. You've gone back 60 years in just a handful. This shit seems to be common as fuck now.
America, you're fucked. You've gone back 60 years in just a handful. This shit seems to be common as fuck now.
She doesn't say anything about what happened before the cops arrived. She's just defending herself from people saying she was okay with what the cops were doing.
It's sad that you think that. I mean, I understand where you're coming from, but I think I human cops could very much do a good job if the system stopped enabling this shit. In other countries, while there are still racism problems, an escalation like this would not have happened.
Same, ofc we are talking shit about our police here in Germany too, and there are some black sheeps, too (no pun intended).
But the shit we get to hear from the USA is just on a whole new level of fucked up bullshit.
I met more cool cops in my life, than bad ones.
This is pretty normal in low income neighborhoods in NYC. It's a completely racist and classist tactic.
Asking for plastic utensils while black, attempting to eat breakfast while black, being black in America while black.
The police in the US has go through some major reforms. It really seems they have no training at all. except for shooting people point blank or beating em up
ehh. I'm white and european. I was harassed to hell and back, first by the TSA at the airports and later by a cop at a traffic check who claimed that my international driving liscense is "not legal" in the US and if I make trouble I will get major problems in "his country". I did nothing wrong and I wasn't cheeky or something like that btw. He also continuously yelled at me "Hands on the wheel". I understand his point (being afraid of guns) but I had to grab my driving liscense for fucks sake.
I will never forget that.
ehh. I'm white and european. I was harassed to hell and back, first by the TSA at the airports and later by a cop at a traffic check who claimed that my international driving liscense is "not legal" in the US and if I make trouble I will get major problems in "his country". I did nothing wrong and I wasn't cheeky or something like that btw. He also continuously yelled at me "Hands on the wheel". I understand his point (being afraid of guns) but I had to grab my driving liscense for fucks sake.
I will never forget that.
Oidaoida, that does sound like a terrible experience to have in a foreign country.
I absolutely agree, fellow Austrian.
Of course we have less to be afraid of than a black tourist, for example, but it's still absolutely scary.
Won't see me going there anytime soon.
I disagree. The question whether police handled this correctly and the issues surrounding it very much remain, even if police involvement was justified.
I don't care what the woman was doing.
Unless she had a knife or a gun with which she was threatening other patrons, the officers went way overboard
If cops behaved like this in India, I swear there would be daily riots and half the country would be on fire
She could have been hollering, "I will murder you all!" but that's just hot air unless she had the means to do damage
A significant portion of the country endorses such behavior and are proud the police are showing those people their place in society. I think if it was only whites and blacks it would be better but racist types are pissed they don't own 100% of everything anymore. Even a 1% advantage to minorities is taken as a grave insult
Unless she had a knife or a gun with which she was threatening other patrons, the officers went way overboard
If cops behaved like this in India, I swear there would be daily riots and half the country would be on fire
She could have been hollering, "I will murder you all!" but that's just hot air unless she had the means to do damage
A significant portion of the country endorses such behavior and are proud the police are showing those people their place in society. I think if it was only whites and blacks it would be better but racist types are pissed they don't own 100% of everything anymore. Even a 1% advantage to minorities is taken as a grave insult
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how can people living in the US take this sitting down? how are they OK with this? how are they not in the street every day protesting this brutality? what's it's going to take for them to actively protest instead of posting on twitter?
this is the correct answer. I'm glad someone else gets it.
The amount of forced used was objectively disproportionate to address the issues and situation at hand. I'm pretty sure a basic, civil fucking conversation between the officer and the women in question would have diffused this and sent everyone home safely. He went from 10 to 100 when he started tugging on her, then wrestling her. Like, what the fuck? Physically removing someone in any way should be a last resort after conversation between her and the officers had been fully exhausted and if she was still refusing to leave. While she may have been drinking and frustrated/belligerent at some point, she appeared to be completely coherent and making clear points about why she was there and what she was expecting from the restaurant. That's more than enough to work with. Pretty sure the officers just wanted to hog tie someone.
wtf man? You think you're going up against an armed cop who's already gung-ho about arresting someone? It's fine to care about others, but if the atmosphere was tense already, involving yourself is just going to make things worse.
The idea that you can't even argue against someone for fear of cops showing up is crazy these day. If im in McDonald's and someone tries charging me for utensils on some personal come up shit, I can't say fuck that?
Can't sit like others do
Can't workout
Can't legally own a firearm and tell a cop
Can't walk down the street
Can't wear a hoodie
Can't breathe.
I think I'll just stay home.
Can't sit like others do
Can't workout
Can't legally own a firearm and tell a cop
Can't walk down the street
Can't wear a hoodie
Can't breathe.
I think I'll just stay home.