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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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Do the number of local dimming zones really mean anything without first measuring real world performance? The Sony and Samsung TV's must have better processing, brightness, motion handling, and contrast at those higher price points, no? There's no way it just comes down to brand recognition.
I like that it uses in it's description "Plasma-like blacks".
It's still in stock at Best Buy. Don't think I've seen it online anywhere else yet.
Is it worth it to upgrade from a 32 inch 1080p tv to a 50 inch 4k TV without HDR? I've been looking to upgrade, but the more I think about it, the more I'm unwilling to spend upwards of 800 euro on a TV, so would it be worth it to go with a 500 euro TV, or should I just wait another year or so and upgrade to something with decent HDR?
I mean obviously more zones is better than less, so all things being equal, it should have better performance than last year's models, but obviously just having more zones than a comparable Sony or Samsung doesn't directly mean it will outperform.
I wouldn't. HDR is way more impactful than more pixels imho.
If you're buying a new set, I would absolutely be looking for something that falls in your price range with HDR. In your case, hold out a bit longer if you can and get something decent.
Input lag on the LG C8 OLED is almost 30ms in HDR. That's higher than the 7 series (i have the C7). I don't like that number.
Yeah I think that's because tonemapping isn't disabled like it is in the 7 series.
Might be a worthwhile tradeoff if you don't notice the 7ms (idk if I would; 20-30 for sure, but idk about 7)
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Yeah I'm super bummed about this... souring my C8 purchase. Less noticeable with a joystick, but I'll notice it with a mouse. Oh well
Yes, that could be the reason why it's higher this year. C7 has 21.1ms input lag in HDR and C8 29.4ms. That's a real difference that i will feel.
So what's more important? input lag or losing highlight detail?
If PQ is your main concern I honestly doubt the TCL will provide a better picture
Instead of getting one Monday.. I'm waiting for restocks. I'm so indecisive sometimes. I'll wait for a deal, then wait for the deal to expire.. - _-
Input lag imo. I'm satisfied with the IQ on my C7 but coming from an VT60 plasma i would have liked to have the BFI of the C8.
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I'm reading that Roku TVs, including TCL P and C series, support VUDU 4K Dolby Vision HDR. Is this correct?
Hmm I'll have to try HDR but I think SD menus are bright enough haha.
Not a fan of the touch remote but I use a Harmony remote anyway which is more convenient. I got it for mostly 4k movies that might not be available on my vudu, but it turns out pretty much all of them are lol. Don't need this at all! But it's still nice
Agree. Let's hope that LG will lower the input lag in HDR with a firmware. 29.4ms is still good but it's higher than last year. Bit of a bummer. SDR is the same though.
not much here yet but he does pretty much echo his "game changing" and "disruptive" comments from last year (which i personally found slightlyyyy hyperbolic despite owning the set and thinking it was very good):
http://www.avsforum.com/first-look-tcl-65-6-series-4k-hdr-roku-tv-dolby-vision/
This was pretty much my exact justification for getting one too =)
I plan to stream some FLAC music with it, but other than that, the directv deal was cheap enough to pick one up just as a "try it out" kinda thing
I have just spent 6 weeks waiting to get a new TV holding out for the TCL 6-series, and now I'm reading online that orders opened at 8am, some people have delivery estimates of the 28th - some mid may, and now amazon is not taking orders anymore...
Am I seriously going to have to wait until June to get a new TV because they have sold out of an entire months worth of stock already?
I have never bought a TV 'at launch' before but this is a shambles if there are no more of them after 4 hours on sale.
Am I seriously going to have to wait until June to get a new TV because they have sold out of an entire months worth of stock already?
I have never bought a TV 'at launch' before but this is a shambles if there are no more of them after 4 hours on sale.
Are you in the US? Is Amazon the only retailer carrying them?
the same thing happened last year with amazon. stock should get better after a couple of weeks. also unless you absolutely need to have amazon try best buy. it wasn't very hard to get there once they started getting their stock. although return policy is slightly worse (15 days for non-elite customers).
Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Not all (most) apps and games don't send the correct signal to change from HDR back to SDR so you'll be stuck in the HDR mode (like DirectTV Now for my tv watching).
The touch remote is handy for the better video scrubbing, and occasional voice control. Other than that I use my Harmony remote as well.
Oh I forgot I really like the airplay function. It's so easy to use. Show my entire phone on it and then send any video content to be played full screen on the tv. It's so seamless and works perfect. It's pretty damn impressive for porn, I'm just saying.
Wait so u think just keep it on DV? I didn't know apps and games even used HDR. But I only use it to watch movies so that shouldn't be an issue for me.
I asked this before but lost the link, what is the recommended settings for HDR and DV on OLED?
Best buy only put the 65" up for sale an hour or so ago, and the delivery estimate has already slipped on that to the 18th. 55" isn't listed yet.
I hope you're right and this is just their initial delivery which is selling out.
Not too fixed on amazon, but did have $200 credit there. I can spend that on something else.
when i bought from BB last year it was online and came direct from warehouse. i'm sure there will be stock allocated for in store. just gotta be a little patient.
I would keep the ATV to 4K SDR.
Let HDR video send the appropriate signal to make the change.
If you keep it on 4K HDR, you'll just get a faux SDR conversion. Many apps won't actually change to true SDR range.
Ooh ok yea I did that yesterday. I much prefer it
I like how the movies on this thing loads a menu first. It feels like I'm watching a bluray
Hmm?
That's one of my favorite things about iTunes video, haha.
New Q9FN review:
Confirms what every other review has said: Samsung has outdone itself this year. Impressive considering last year's QLED models were mediocre at best.
Confirms what every other review has said: Samsung has outdone itself this year. Impressive considering last year's QLED models were mediocre at best.
Ohh nvm I misread your post.
I'm fact, I think exactly what you're describing is maybe why the Apple movie trailers app looks so busted
I haven't watched any reviews, are they better than OLED?
It's disappointing the Q9FN isn't available in a 55" model, because it sounds like a phenomenal return to form for Samsung.
He said it was the most impressive TV he's reviewed or something like that.
Amazing in both brightness and black levels.
Could not tell a difference between OLED and this TV in black levels until he got close to the Samsung and it fell just short of an OLED but otherwise said blacks were jet black, with great shadow detail.
Said peak brightness is top notch, Samsung rated at 2k nits which would be the highest of any Tv, but he actually measured it at closer to 2.5k.
Back lit not edge lit.
Something like 500 dimming zones and new algorithm, resulting in no noticeable halo-ing or very very very little if you try to look for it. He said it wasn't an issue.
Top notch color saturation
Basically said it's the mostly versatile TV (gaming, movies, sports, etc) in any viewig condition.
Samsung already had great game mode input lag but improved it on this year's models. He measured game mode at 16ms.
Said he had no complaints about the motion resolution, but was just ok nothing spetacular.
Viewing angles much improved.
Doesn't like the processing box, bigger than an Xbox One S, same amount of inputs as before.
Hope that helps
Is that definite the 55" isn't available where you are then? It is in the UK, and has 320 zones.
The user above wrote a good summary of the video. But if you'd rather read one, here is the Forbes review from a few weeks ago, which also goes into detail on many aspects of the TV.
Not all sizes are available in all markets. I believe I've read the 55" is exclusive to Europe but I'm not entirely positive.
That's annoying, it's like how the best TCL sets aren't sold in the UK, which is ridiculous, as they'd do really well here.
If you buy one off of the official Samsung website, they have a financing plan which can be helpful depending on your situation.
It's what you deserve after taking Panasonic all to yourselves!
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