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Does Agents of Shield deserve a Season Seven

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 34.0%
  • Most Definitely

    Votes: 16 15.5%
  • Wait, what happen to Six?

    Votes: 13 12.6%
  • Only if they include The Daughters of the Dragon

    Votes: 12 11.7%
  • Thor 2: The Ghost Rider

    Votes: 27 26.2%

  • Total voters
    103
Nov 2, 2017
697
Talbots mind is jumbled enough right now that it probably helps him keep the other voices at bay. He has been pushing hard as hell to in jumble his mind but we still see hints of the conditioning with repeating the coordinates over and over etc.

If there was a fight for control I think he would win regardless of his hydra conditioning because it's Talbot.

Graviton Talbot outta fucking nowhere, what a swerve. That Jaiying grave has my head spinning too, why is she important to Garett's life juice, why was she connected to Hydra before its fall, how the hell did they plan all this already?!

Too many plot threads for 3 episodes to be left, there gotta be a Season 6.

Jaiying's Inhuman power was super healing or something like that. Whitehall used her to keep himself young for decades.
 

BKatastrophe

Member
Oct 28, 2017
13,359
So every season seems to have had a character that joined the team and then left within that season, EXCEPT S2.

-S1: Ward (betrayal)
-S3: Lincoln (death)
-S4: Mace (death) and (one could also argue) Radcliffe (betrayal followed by death)
-S5: Enoch (death) and (most assuredly) Deke (death and/or loop break)

I thought about the people in S2 who might fit this bill, and all of them either joined prior (Tripp) or carried over and left in S3 (Hunter and Bobbi). I can't think of any others. Hopefully Piper sticks around if we get a S6, though I think that may be too many characters hogging the bill and I can't see them getting rid of anyone. Unless Coulson legit dies, but then that would probably be the end.
I remember seeing a Robin drawing of one big person with a bunch of smaller people inside (like, at least three or four). I wouldn't be surprised if Quinn/Hall/maybe even others are still mixed in there.
I mean, I still stick with all of them inside of Talbot's head. "Coulson puts the pieces together" makes so much sense this way.
Graviton Talbot outta fucking nowhere, what a swerve. That Jaiying grave has my head spinning too, why is she important to Garett's life juice, why was she connected to Hydra before its fall, how the hell did they plan all this already?!

Too many plot threads for 3 episodes to be left, there gotta be a Season 6.
Jiaying's healing powers. This stuff was all informed from S2. It's not a brand new plot thread. This is old shit. This season has been pulling tons of shit from S1 and is now moving into S2. It's basically an anniversary of old plot points, items, people, etc. Hell, one of the core plot points from the back half of this season has been healing Coulson from his original fatal wound that allowed them to spawn this series.

Like, this shit is big. They're pulling out every single available tool they have this season and it's been working. I legitimately don't think anything is off of the table at this point.
No, her power was sucking the life essence from others to heal and prolong her life
I thought it became that after she had been butchered. Like her power had been corrupted after death.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
No, she was always a vampire. Her first name (Jiaying) might've been a pun on "Jiangshi". (tho apparently this doesnt work in the native Chinese languages.)
 

Tetsujin

Unshakable Resolve
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,466
Germany
Season 4 is apparently coming to Blu-Ray. It's now listed on the Japanese Amazon store and several people have claimed that they heard it's coming on for the UK as well which should be region free like the other UK Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D sets. Got my information over at Blu-Ray.com forums. No release date or any other details at this time.

Yessss. Best season in best quality.
 

TheIlliterati

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,782
Hope I'm not wrong, but for IW to finally be here, seems too big of an event for the writers of SHIELD to completely ignore, or just have that one throwaway line.

I really hope to see part of the last episode or extra stinger allude to it or have some consequences of the fallout.

I really don't think they can reference it in the way you would like. If referenced further it will continue to not effect any major cast members....which would be really odd.
They can't evaporate any major character, because if rumors are true, A4 occurs years later. They can't even add a time jump themselves since their show will come back at least months before any potential resurrections occur in A4. They won't bench a main actor for an entire season just to tie it in. I guess at most you could see Piper or Scar guy vanish, with no guarantee they could ever return given that the show would probably have to last to season 7.
 

khaz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
274
Sadly they wouldn't even have to do even just that if the films follow a logical conclusion (and the original comic):

The good guys will ultimately find a solution to reverse the vanishing, made it as if it never happened or that the vanishing was for only a second. Like by wishing for everything to be like the day before, for example

If this is the direction the film is going, and I can't believe it could be anything different, then
from the point of view of the agents, nothing would have happened. It depends whether they want to tell the story of what would be happening in between the two films, or if they want to have an external point of view for the story.

As you said, the second film being two seasons away makes it very difficult to chose one option or the other.
 

SP.

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,585
Season 4 is apparently coming to Blu-Ray. It's now listed on the Japanese Amazon store and several people have claimed that they heard it's coming on for the UK as well which should be region free like the other UK Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D sets. Got my information over at Blu-Ray.com forums. No release date or any other details at this time.

I'm not seeing it on Amazon Japan.

If this is true though I'll definitely be importing again from Amazon UK. Shame they stopped releasing the box sets in the US.
 

Slyonic

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,352
With the Fitzsimmons theory in the last episode, it would be kind of funny to see Deke disappearing, the team confident that they finally broke the loop....

Until the rest of the team start to disappear too and they realize something is very wrong.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
With the Fitzsimmons theory in the last episode, it would be kind of funny to see Deke disappearing, the team confident that they finally broke the loop....

Until the rest of the team start to disappear too and they realize something is very wrong.
Oh fuck that's 100% going to happen.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
They can't do this because they can't fix it themselves so they won't spend the rest of the season like this
It's gonna be at the end of the season after the resolution. The dialogue set it up to a T.
They just set up Deke disappearing a la BTTF in this episode. It is going to happen after they finally fix the loop. He is going to turn to dust and everyone is going to be sad/happy because they think it's a result of the change. But it will quickly turn to horror as other people start dusting as well. Which is probably also the reason Mack doesn't make it to the future.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
I really don't think IW is going to have any effect on the current season of AoS.

I didn't think so either but they specifically made a point in the most recent episode to tell the audience, "The very beginning of Infinity War is happening right now."

That means that with 3 episodes left this season, we should feel the impact of the film's ending at some point. If I had to guess, it's dependent on whether or not the show is renewed and if it happens, it will be in the finale. Likely the very end of the finale.

The problem is this:

How in the world does the show handle that if renewed? It isn't a problem that can be solved on the show so if they do erase one or more characters from existence, they would basically just be down a couple characters who randomly reappear in the final three episodes of season 6 after Avengers 4 releases. So if I had to guess, none of the main cast will disappear and it would instead impact them in a different way. We could see recurring characters disappear or have the disappearance of a random person put someone in the main cast in harm's way (something we started to see in the post-credits scene in the film.)
 
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Rvaan

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,734
I didn't think so either but they specifically made a point in the most recent episode to tell the audience, "The very beginning of Infinity War is happening right now."

That means that with 3 episodes left this season, we should feel the impact of the film's ending at some point. If I had to guess, it's dependent on whether or not the show is renewed and if it happens, it will be in the finale. Likely the very end of the finale.

The problem is this:

How in the world does the show handle that if renewed? It isn't a problem that can be solved on the show so if they do erase one or more characters from existence, they would basically just be down a couple characters who randomly reappear in the final three episodes of season 6 after Avengers 4 releases. So if I had to guess, none of the main cast will disappear and it would instead impact them in a different way. We could see recurring characters disappear or have the disappearance of a character put someone in the main cast in harm's way (something we started to see in the post-credits scene in the film.
How much do you want bet that if they snap someone away it's either Fitz or Simmons?
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
I didn't think so either but they specifically made a point in the most recent episode to tell the audience, "The very beginning of Infinity War is happening right now."

That means that with 3 episodes left this season, we should feel the impact of the film's ending at some point. If I had to guess, it's dependent on whether or not the show is renewed and if it happens, it will be in the finale. Likely the very end of the finale.

The problem is this:

How in the world does the show handle that if renewed? It isn't a problem that can be solved on the show so if they do erase one or more characters from existence, they would basically just be down a couple characters who randomly reappear in the final three episodes of season 6 after Avengers 4 releases. So if I had to guess, none of the main cast will disappear and it would instead impact them in a different way. We could see recurring characters disappear or have the disappearance of a character put someone in the main cast in harm's way (something we started to see in the post-credits scene in the film.
So I don't think it's as much of a problem as you think, and the show's already structured itself to account for what occurs in IW.
In the future, we have seen Fitzsimmons, May, and Yo-Yo. We have not seen Daisy, Coulson, Davis/Piper, Mack or Time-Displaced Deke. We can assume Coulson/Daisy probably die in the loop's aftermath of earth getting blown up. Daisy will live because she's the lead. Coulson may or may not because he's in Captain Marvel and because they may need him gone to make S6 "sync." Deke, Mack, Davis and Piper all probably don't survive Thanos.
 

TheOMan

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
7,127
I guess I better go see Infinity War, eh?

Okay - last MCU movie I saw was Civil War. What do I need to watch to catch up?
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
So I don't think it's as much of a problem as you think, and the show's already structured itself to account for what occurs in IW.
In the future, we have seen Fitzsimmons, May, and Yo-Yo. We have not seen Daisy, Coulson, Davis/Piper, Mack or Time-Displaced Deke. We can assume Coulson/Daisy probably die in the loop's aftermath of earth getting blown up. Daisy will live because she's the lead. Coulson may or may not because he's in Captain Marvel and because they may need him gone to make S6 "sync." Deke, Mack, Davis and Piper all probably don't survive Thanos.


You're missing the point just a bit. Anyone who disappears because of Thanos would just reappear at the end of season 6. Having Mack disappear means he can't be on the show at all in season 6 until the very end. And then he reappears due to something that happens outside of the show.

That's kind of lame and I don't see how the writers would do that.

And they're not killing off Coulson or Daisy lol. At least, not if the show is renewed.
 

BKatastrophe

Member
Oct 28, 2017
13,359
There are only two MCU films, as I see it, that don't build to IW: Iron Man 3 and Ant-Man. The rest is all fairly integral.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
You're missing the point just a bit. Anyone who disappears because of Thanos would just reappear at the end of season 6. Having Mack disappear means he can't be on the show at all in season 6 until the very end. And then he reappears due to something that happens outside of the show.

That's kind of lame and I don't see how the writers would do that.

And they're not killing off Coulson or Daisy lol. At least, not if the show is renewed.
The nature of the story setup means you have to sacrifice someone for the season.

Oh, and Bobbi's totally getting dusted, it lets them bring Hunter back if Nick Blood's not busy.
 

TheOMan

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
7,127
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Thor: Ragnarok
Black Panther

The good news: They are all good.

Hmm - I guess Doctor Strange came out after Civil War? I saw it on a plane a while back before I saw Civil War.

Edit: and yeah, I really enjoy the MCU movies. The only one I haven't seen that's not on that list is Ant-Man and I intend to.
 

jph139

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,386
Infinity War:

I'm 100% sure they'll tie in at the end of the season - probably as a cliffhanger - but whether that's in a general sense (random dudes fade away, the main cast survives) or in a hardcore way (1-2 major characters fade) is yet to be seen.

If they're cancelled they might just leave us with a happy ending, though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,123
Brooklyn, NY
Given the secrecy surrounding Infinity War on top of the preexisting estrangement between the film and TV divisions, I would be very surprised if the AoS writing/producing team had any advance knowledge of Infinity War's ending. I suppose we'll see, though.
 

BrokenFiction

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,325
ATL
Given the secrecy surrounding Infinity War on top of the preexisting estrangement between the film and TV divisions, I would be very surprised if the AoS writing/producing team had any advance knowledge of Infinity War's ending. I suppose we'll see, though.

They knew about Winter Soldiers' HYDRA swerve a year in advance, and were forced to sit on storylines they'd developed until it came out.
 

BKatastrophe

Member
Oct 28, 2017
13,359
Incredible Hulk, too.
Introduces Banner and Ross.

Honestly I would've said just Iron Man 3. Only reason I'm saying Ant-Man is because none of those characters are in the film, so the small bit you get with Scott in Captain America: Civil War is all you need.

IM3 does not introduce any major characters or make any major status quo alterations. Tony having the surgery is mentioned in this film alone, and his armor fetish and obsession with having a prepared defense for everything carries into The Avengers: Age of Ultron sufficiently enough.

Spider-Man: Homecoming is also probably unnecessary as well.

Consider: I'm counting films introducing major characters, plot points, and major status quo changes. Like, important to the whole universe. Some films are unnecessary though, as their changes are re-addressed in other films, and even played up stronger.

So:
Iron Man 3
Ant-Man
Spider-Man: Homecoming

All what I would consider "unnecessary" to the plot of The Avengers: Infinity War.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
Introduces Banner and Ross.

Honestly I would've said just Iron Man 3. Only reason I'm saying Ant-Man is because none of those characters are in the film, so the small bit you get with Scott in Captain America: Civil War is all you need.

IM3 does not introduce any major characters or make any major status quo alterations. Tony having the surgery is mentioned in this film alone, and his armor fetish and obsession with having a prepared defense for everything carries into The Avengers: Age of Ultron sufficiently enough.

Spider-Man: Homecoming is also probably unnecessary as well.
It's not, the Tony/Peter relationship is important to have been established in IW. The character work pays off.