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Dark Cloud

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Deep in my heart I'd like to see Itoi work with Retro to make Mother 4, but I know it may never happen. :(
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've found GlassDoor to be pretty reliable in the past. There will obviously be disgruntled employees, but Retro isn't that large, and the only recent entries are negative.

This in no way indicates that a product is suffering - they could be developing something great. It's just unfortunate that employees feel the company is "stuck" or mismanaged.
Apparently Prime 2 development was a shitshow from what I read on an interview posted on shinesparkers and it's one of my GOATs so honestly I don't know how to take this
 

MetalLord

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I don't know how trustworthy these GlassDoor reviews are or if these people actually work at Retro, but there is an entry as of April 16, 2018 and last year. They seem to have problems with upper management, which is sad. One said they're not transparent and they follow the Peter something for moving up. One said the company is stuck in the past.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Retro-Studios-Reviews-E647349.htm
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It doesn't ask any proof that you worked there, anyone can add a review so it doesn't look trustful, the last review seems really fake
 

Cinemikel

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So it turns out that Next Level Games is not involved on the Luigi's Mansion 3ds remake. I knew they weren't, but some people were convinced. So that means they've been working on a switch project for 2 years or more

And Grezzo is the developer behind it. To quote myself from another thread:

I wonder what that UE4 hiring is for? Two Grezzo projects at once? That'd be a first wouldn't it?

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Edit: Apparently they helped with the development of the Legend of Legacy and Alliance Alive games. So it wouldn't be their first time working on multiple projects at once, but that still leaves them with an HD game left to be revealed
 

jdstorm

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I don't know how trustworthy these GlassDoor reviews are or if these people actually work at Retro, but there is an entry as of April 16, 2018 and last year. They seem to have problems with upper management, which is sad. One said they're not transparent and they follow the Peter something for moving up. One said the company is stuck in the past.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Retro-Studios-Reviews-E647349.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

It basically says that people were hired/promoted to the point of incompetence due to success in the past in different roles.

IE a great artist might not be great Art Team leader due to the different skillset required.
 

Ohto

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just like so many companies do all the time. That is like the most basic thing, "oh you are really good at your job, let's get you promoted so you cannot use your strengths anymore!"....

And people, remember that satisfied people won't usually vent online. It is always the same thing, whether we are talking about a product, company etc.

If you are dissatisfied, you will most likely seek for a venue to express your displeasure. Basic human behaviour.

EDIT. And two people is just meaningless static noise. If there was a lot bigger sample size, you could start worrying. Seriously guys, what on Earth?
 

Slam Tilt

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Unpaid overtime is legal?
Not sure if serious, but just in case...

If you're a salaried employee, yeah -- you get a fixed salary and you put in whatever hours are needed to get the job done. This is usually reserved for higher-level professionals, supervisors, managers, etc.

The opposite of "salaried" is "hourly", where you're paid by the hour. If you work X hours, you get paid X * $Y. Overtime (hours beyond 40/week) is paid at a higher rate. Hourly employees working unpaid overtime is illegal.
And people, remember that satisfied people won't usually vent online. It is always the same thing, whether we are talking about a product, company etc.
Yup. Take these with a pinch of salt, folks.
 

Dark Cloud

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Not sure if serious, but just in case...

If you're a salaried employee, yeah -- you get a fixed salary and you put in whatever hours are needed to get the job done. This is usually reserved for higher-level professionals, supervisors, managers, etc.

The opposite of "salaried" is "hourly", where you're paid by the hour. If you work X hours, you get paid X * $Y. Overtime (hours beyond 40/week) is paid at a higher rate. Hourly employees working unpaid overtime is illegal.

Yup. Take these with a pinch of salt, folks.

I know the difference between a set salary and hourly salary. Why continue working somewhere when you're not getting paid for overtime?
 
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I know the difference between a set salary and hourly salary. Why continue working somewhere when you're not getting paid for overtime?

Passion for video games+ few good options in America for video game development that has treats workers well.

I do hope Retro (and everyone else in the game industry) does become better at compensating their laborers and treating them well.
 

MetalLord

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Oh god, I'm looking at Tropical Freeze switch credits, and Nintendo hired an artist who used to draw furry pornography

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Slam Tilt

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Oh god, I'm looking at Tropical Freeze switch credits, and Nintendo hired an artist who used to draw furry pornography
Ehhh, furry porn is not that far off from regular porn in my book, and I don't know any serious artists who haven't done anatomical studies or nudes or something similar down the line. As long as nothing improper is in the game itself, who cares?
 

ILikeFeet

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Zone worked on Skullgirls

Many a hentai artist worked on Japanese games

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

Jonnykong

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So it turns out that Next Level Games is not involved on the Luigi's Mansion 3ds remake. I knew they weren't, but some people were convinced. So that means they've been working on a switch project for 2 years or more

And Grezzo is the developer behind it. To quote myself from another thread:



Edit: Apparently they helped with the development of the Legend of Legacy and Alliance Alive games. So it wouldn't be their first time working on multiple projects at once, but that still leaves them with an HD game left to be revealed

Do we definitely have proof Next Level games are working on a Switch game, and not a new 3DS title?

I know it's more than likely they're working on a Switch game, but you never know..
 
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Here comes the unnecessary doom and gloom for Retro...

You guys are amazing. The ONLY piece of information that we have about them are those posts from (former)employees and the fact that we haven't heard from the studio in more than 4 years, yet we are the unrealistic ones when we express legitimate concerns about the current state the studio is in; while you guys keep on dreaming about which megaton they might be cooking; and constantly moving goalposts for when we should start hearing about their next game. This is bonkers.
I hope as much as anyone that they are making a great game, but currently, the only information that we have are at best irrelevant, at worst worrying.
 

Zippo

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For awhile, I was a firm believer in the possibility of a new 2D Mario this year, but now, I think Mario's contemporaries (Donkey Kong, a possible Wario Land game, Yoshi, Kirby) are the ones getting the spotlight this year. Why release that evergreen megaton when you have four other titles doing same thing? It would overshadow the other four, easily. Five 2D platformers on the same system in the same year would just be too much, even for Nintendo. So now, I'm of the mindset that whatever 2D Mario Tezuka and Co. are working on will now be a year 3 title. Also doubting we'll see it at E3 now.
 

TheMoon

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You guys are amazing. The ONLY piece of information that we have about them are those posts from (former)employees and the fact that we haven't heard from the studio in more than 4 years, yet we are the unrealistic ones when we express legitimate concerns about the current state the studio is in; while you guys keep on dreaming about which megaton they might be cooking; and constantly moving goalposts for when we should start hearing about their next game. This is bonkers.
I hope as much as anyone that they are making a great game, but currently, the only information that we have are at best irrelevant, at worst worrying.
Confirmation bias is the word.

You're actively looking for stuff that supports your worst fears which then spirals into this silly doom that keeps going around here just because Retro isn't following the demanded timetable for announcing their next game.
 

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You guys are amazing. The ONLY piece of information that we have about them are those posts from (former)employees and the fact that we haven't heard from the studio in more than 4 years, yet we are the unrealistic ones when we express legitimate concerns about the current state the studio is in; while you guys keep on dreaming about which megaton they might be cooking; and constantly moving goalposts for when we should start hearing about their next game. This is bonkers.
I hope as much as anyone that they are making a great game, but currently, the only information that we have are at best irrelevant, at worst worrying.

yeah no
 

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If I had to speculate, I could see Retro's game being both a new IP and an existing Nintendo IP.

Sort of like how Mario + Rabbids is a brand new IP (strategy RPG) based on existing IPs (Mario, Rabbids).

I guess something like a "spinoff"? An old IP in a completely new/different genre.
 
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If I had to speculate, I could see Retro's game being both a new IP and an existing Nintendo IP.

Sort of like how Mario + Rabbids is a brand new IP (strategy RPG) based on existing IPs (Mario, Rabbids).

I guess something like a "spinoff"? An old IP in a completely new/different genre.
How do you feel about the comparison to Kid Icarus Uprising, where it uses a classic IP but is completely different.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Confirmation bias is the word.

You're actively looking for stuff that supports your worst fears which then spirals into this silly doom that keeps going around here just because Retro isn't following the demanded timetable for announcing their next game.

I am speculating on the only piece of information we have. These reports may be most likely irrelevant, but that doesn;t change the fact that they exist. Added to fact that we haven't heard anything in years.
So yes, it is speculation with a very shaky substrate. Which is still better than NO substrate at all, which it is when discussing their potential next game.
 

Zippo

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I'm still blown away that we still don't know a single title past July for the Switch. Not a single one. Nintendo is usually not this secretive about their year, especially this far into it.
 

Dark Cloud

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If I had to speculate, I could see Retro's game being both a new IP and an existing Nintendo IP.

Sort of like how Mario + Rabbids is a brand new IP (strategy RPG) based on existing IPs (Mario, Rabbids).

I guess something like a "spinoff"? An old IP in a completely new/different genre.
That's interesting. A Nintendo IP in a different genre? That could be anything lol. Nintendo has a lot of IP's.

Maybe a Star Fox spin-off?
 

Simba1

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I'm still blown away that we still don't know a single title past July for the Switch. Not a single one. Nintendo is usually not this secretive about their year, especially this far into it.

Nintendo with Switch is holding cards very close to chest and they are focusing on games that will be out in near future, we even in December didnt had any release date for Q1 2018. and only with January Mini Direct we got some release dates. Talking about second half of 2018. we know that Smash Bros, Fire Emblem and Yoshi are coming this year but we still dont have dates and we will get them at E3, other than that we dont know what else Nintendo will show.
 

Zedark

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That's interesting. A Nintendo IP in a different genre? That could be anything lol. Nintendo has a lot of IP's.

Maybe a Star Fox spin-off?
Donkey Kong 3D.
Sorry, I meant Fucking Donkey Kong, of course ;)

But seriously, I think Retro is probably working on a brand new IP, considering they are taking so long. They might be trying to provide a big western IP that Nintendo can use to leverage extra pull in the West (because god knows their IP are massive in Japan already). Ah well, we'll see eventually.
 

Dark Cloud

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Donkey Kong 3D.
Sorry, I meant Fucking Donkey Kong, of course ;)

But seriously, I think Retro is probably working on a brand new IP, considering they are taking so long. They might be trying to provide a big western IP that Nintendo can use to leverage extra pull in the West (because god knows their IP are massive in Japan already). Ah well, we'll see eventually.

I think it's a new IP first or an old IP being brought back. I don't see anything DK related.
 

Jonnykong

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I'm still clinging onto the 1% dream of Retro making a new Eternal Darkness game after all those trademark renewals we keep getting, but I know I'm being ridiculous.
 

Skittzo

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You guys are amazing. The ONLY piece of information that we have about them are those posts from (former)employees and the fact that we haven't heard from the studio in more than 4 years, yet we are the unrealistic ones when we express legitimate concerns about the current state the studio is in; while you guys keep on dreaming about which megaton they might be cooking; and constantly moving goalposts for when we should start hearing about their next game. This is bonkers.
I hope as much as anyone that they are making a great game, but currently, the only information that we have are at best irrelevant, at worst worrying.

Nobody is saying that it's unrealistic to think Retro might be in some trouble. We're only saying that it's a jump to conclusions, there really isn't anything to suggest that the studio overall has been having development issues. The only thing those glass door reviews suggest is that they may have some management problems, but apparently there was some turmoil there back when Metroid Prime 2 was released and that didn't really cause any quality or timing issues with that game.

So we're really only trying to tell you not to jump to conclusions, that the little evidence we have right now doesn't point in one way or the other regarding the state of development of their game(s).

If I had to speculate, I could see Retro's game being both a new IP and an existing Nintendo IP.

Sort of like how Mario + Rabbids is a brand new IP (strategy RPG) based on existing IPs (Mario, Rabbids).

I guess something like a "spinoff"? An old IP in a completely new/different genre.

That's funny, I said something almost exactly like this in another thread. My reasoning was that if it's gonna be revealed at E3 and released in 2018 it will be hard to market a completely new, unknown IP in the span of a few months. But something that uses an existing IP in a brand new genre could work, exactly like Mario + Rabbids or Kid Icarus Uprising. That would be far easier to market.

I expect some kind of "revival" of a long gone franchise from retro, à la kid Icarus uprising...

I'd legitimately lose my mind if it's anything related to StarTropics. Even though it obviously has a 0.5% chance of being the case.
 

Sander VF

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For a brand new, never before heard of IP? Has Nintendo ever had such a short marketing cycle for one?

ARMS had a 6 month cycle I guess.
I honestly think it could be enough depending on how actively it is advertised and how good the actual pitch is.

A big promising game for the Switch announced out of nowhere would garner a lot of attention, especially among those who expressed low excitement towards H1 line up.
 

ILikeFeet

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I am speculating on the only piece of information we have. These reports may be most likely irrelevant, but that doesn;t change the fact that they exist. Added to fact that we haven't heard anything in years.
So yes, it is speculation with a very shaky substrate. Which is still better than NO substrate at all, which it is when discussing their potential next game.
No, no it's not.
 

delete12345

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This is going to get buried, so....

Confession time: I bought my mom a Super NES Classic for Mother's Day! She frequents this forum, so hopefully she doesn't see it so I can surprise her.
 

Peleo

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This is going to get buried, so....

Confession time: I bought my mom a Super NES Classic for Mother's Day! She frequents this forum, so hopefully she doesn't see it so I can surprise her.


Next-Level games is a big toss-up at this point. Dark Moon was a huge success, so it wouldn't be a surprise if a sequel was being planned for WiiU and got moved to Switch. On the other hand, we had some recent trademarks about Punch-Out!. and the game was somewhat successful. Mario Strikers would also be a good addition for the Switch Online Library. Or they could be working on something completely unique.
 
Jan 8, 2018
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Tanabe is listed as "special thanks" in that credits video lol. Could confirm his demotion that everyone has talked about.

Also spotted Alexander Brandon, the guy everyone was pointed to to say Retro was making some super gritty new game with sci-fi music, as "contract audio."
 
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