The MetalEra |OT| We're not in the Stone Age anymore

Bubble Metropolis · May 4, 2018

The rereleases of that Mortem album switched the cover art to something that somehow rivals the original in the crude, primacy that I love:

Very Mortuary Drape-ian. Not sure which to use for the artwork in my media server. I always go with the original, but it's close.

ascii · May 4, 2018

Bubble Metropolis said:
I am still (barely) in my 20s, but I don't know if I can handle people referring to records that came out in 2006 as "timeless old albums."

In metal terms, 2006 feels like a long, long time ago. The genre has gone through so much change since then.

Irminsul · May 4, 2018

I recently saw The Body live, and it's an experience I'd very much recommend. It's heavy as fuck (something that doesn't quite carry over to recordings of live shows), but I found the vocals to be the most impressive part. Here's some live footage (vocals start around 2:55):

Bitanator · May 4, 2018

ascii said:
In metal terms, 2006 feels like a long, long time ago. The genre has gone through so much change since then.

Always give something at least 20 years

RDreamer · May 4, 2018

Ihsahn's new one is amazing.

Deleted member 23850 · May 4, 2018

Any good metal albums that incorporate Tribal musical elements. Roots does not cut it, blech.

Eros · May 4, 2018

RDreamer said:
Ihsahn's new one is amazing.

It was okay. His harsh vocals are so weird for me. They sound like they hurt.

RDreamer · May 4, 2018

Eros said:
It was okay. His harsh vocals are so weird for me. They sound like they hurt.

They've always sounded like that though.

Eros · May 4, 2018

RDreamer said:
They've always sounded like that though.

Yep.

Deleted member 2229 · May 4, 2018

Why is it that every time someone is losing an argument about Metal they go "yeah well, theres nazi's in the genre! And you're all hiding them! So there!" As if:
Nazi's don't exist in everything else

Eros · May 4, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Why is it that every time someone is losing an argument about Metal they go "yeah well, theres nazi's in the genre! And you're all hiding them! So there!" As if:
Nazi's don't exist in everything else

We don't like their band so they gotta look for something to fight back with.

Like I was talking about Shining a couple weeks ago here and once someone mentioned the guy had some racist shit going on, then I said I ain't listening to that shit anymore.

edit: Also search Arghoslent in this thread. As of this post, this is the only post with that name.

Morrigan · May 4, 2018

Bitanator said:
I did not follow black metal at all back then, was either power metal or thrash. Was still working my way through swaths of death metal. Did not get into black metal until I got addicted to Japanese blackend thrash/speed and worked my way back from there

Ah, gotcha.

Wait, "back then"... like this album is even that old, come on du... *checks* Holy Satan, how was this 12 years ago. OK nevermind. xD

Andrew Korenchkin said:
Any good metal albums that incorporate Tribal musical elements. Roots does not cut it, blech.

Hmm. Try these?

and

I'm also currently listening to Melechesh (Enki at the moment), which isn't exactly "tribal", but has that Middle Eastern influence, maybe you'd dig that.

Deleted member 2229 · May 4, 2018

Eros said:
We don't like their band so they gotta look for something to fight back with.

Like I was talking about Shining a couple weeks ago here and once someone mentioned the guy had some racist shit going on, then I said I ain't listening to that shit anymore.

Yeah if an artist I like ends up being shitty I just stop supporting them, Im not going to make a big deal of it and run around telling other people they can't listen to it anymore. The best you can do is just look out for yourself.

Bitanator · May 4, 2018

Morrigan said:
Ah, gotcha.

Wait, "back then"... like this album is even that old, come on du... *checks* Holy Satan, how was this 12 years ago. OK nevermind. xD

haha yeah time keeps moving on.

Speaking of Japanese black/thrash, still one of the best black/thrash albums released

Morrigan · May 4, 2018

Bitanator said:
Speaking of Japanese black/thrash, still one of the best black/thrash albums released

I bought this one blind in Japan. True story. No regrets!

Cream Stout · May 4, 2018

hi guys i hope you like dis

blahness · May 4, 2018

New Urfaust is really good

Urfaust - The Constellatory Practice
https://urfaust.bandcamp.com/album/the-constellatory-practice-2

Saften · May 4, 2018

Song of the Day:

I've been on a real party-thrash kick lately, so to start off the weekend proper, here is Municipial Waste with "Breathe Grease".

lordxar · May 4, 2018

I found Fetid Zombie this week. Some youtuber had a raging boner because Mark Riddick gave him some FZ stuff. Kind of got on my nerves hearing how grateful dude was...but FZ is pretty damn good so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. Spun a couple albums on Bandcamp and found myself really digging the music so I went all in and bought all his shit.

lordxar · May 4, 2018

If we're talking Melechesh then I'd add Enkar from Al-Namrood. Not quite the same but a similar Middle Eastern sound. I need to buy this but I've been too lazy to track a copy down.

http://shaytanproductions.bandcamp.com/album/enkar

Edit: Heh...nevermind. There were some copies on Bandcamp so I picked one up.

Deleted member 23850 · May 4, 2018

Morrigan said:
Hmm. Try these?

and

I'm also currently listening to Melechesh (Enki at the moment), which isn't exactly "tribal", but has that Middle Eastern influence, maybe you'd dig that.

Voivod I'm already familiar with, that's a good song. The other song wasn't too bad, not really what I was looking for. Melechesh is kick ass, though I was thinking African tribal music.

Really, I think the issue with combining Tribal Music and Metal is the fact that you have to slow down the tempos, and when you do that you usually end up flattening all the Metal and get chugging. Neurosis did a great job with adding Tribal elements to their brand of Post Metal, but that's just one band. Maybe an idea better left undone.

Milk Lizard · May 4, 2018

The Armeds new album is proper amazing. Some would probably say they are more just hardcore punk, but certainly also metal in there imo.

Also kind of funny story on how Ben Koller ended up drumming on it.

According to Stolarski, the band had to trick Koller into drumming on the album. The story goes like this: First they told Koller that Metallica bassist Robert Trujillo was going to be involved in the project to get him to sign on. Then, when he didn't have time to do all the songs, they rewrote a bunch of parts to sound like another of Koller's bands that was about to record, only to get his drum takes, unwittingly, and then re-record over them.

"It sounds incredibly elaborate, because it was, and we did it, and it worked, and he's on the album," Stolarski says. "It's silly. ... This band is essentially just a fun joke project to us." Both Dans laugh.

Koller says by email that he was familiar with the Armed from stories his bandmate Ballou had told him over the years. He was a fan of a few of the songs and their "incredible videos," and he says the session sounded like a fun challenge and warm-up before tracking drums for Converge's next album, The Dusk In Us. What was originally going to be a guest appearance turned into Koller playing on most of the record.

"What really, really cinched the deal for me were some of the other collaborators they told me about who were going to play on the album," Koller says. "Hilariously, literally none of the people they told me about were involved in any way at all, as I found out when I arrived for the session. To be honest, I found that kind of awesome enough in its own right, that they would troll that hard and that deeply, so I just went with it."

Conkersbadfurday · May 4, 2018

So we're getting a new Eluveite and Lord of the Lost albums this year, which is rad. Also new Veldes, but he releases a new one every year and they all kind of sound the same.

Really, really excited for more Eluveite. Love them.

blahness · May 4, 2018

Andrew Korenchkin said:
Voivod I'm already familiar with, that's a good song. The other song wasn't too bad, not really what I was looking for. Melechesh is kick ass, though I was thinking African tribal music.

Really, I think the issue with combining Tribal Music and Metal is the fact that you have to slow down the tempos, and when you do that you usually end up flattening all the Metal and get chugging. Neurosis did a great job with adding Tribal elements to their brand of Post Metal, but that's just one band. Maybe an idea better left undone.

The first thing I can think of, mainly because I have listen to the album more than anything this past year, is Exuvia by The Ruins of Beverast which incorporate a lot of Native American tribal singing, percussion, etc. in several of the songs. It really gives the album its pulse.

Deleted member 23850 · May 4, 2018

YEAG METAL!!!!

I'M DRUNKM

Deleted member 2229 · May 5, 2018

Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

Bitanator · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

Razor - Speed Merchants

Deleted member 2229 · May 5, 2018

Bitanator said:
Razor - Speed Merchants

Ive always wondered where your avatar came from. But this is some good stuff, old school thrash will always be my true metal love.

Bitanator · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Ive always wondered where your avatar came from. But this is some good stuff, old school thrash will always be my true metal love.

My favorite thrash album, followed closely by The Years of Decay

Morrigan · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

That could take a while.... *sweatdrop*

But, okay! I'm not going to hunt for links though, because I'm sure they're all easy searchable on Bandcamp and/or Youtube or your preferred music source. Some of my favourite albums ever, sans power metal :

Traditional/heavy
Mercyful Fate - Don't Breath the Oath
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Satan - Atom by Atom
Satan's Host By the Hands of the Devil
Natur - Head of Death
Accept - Restless and Wild
Saxon - Denim and Leather
Thrash
Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Overkill - The Years of Decay
Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers
Artillery - By Inheritance
Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
Sodom - Agent Orange
Black metal
Summoning - Minas Morgul
Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane
In the Woods... - HEart of the Ages
Samael - Blood Ritual
Rotting Christ - Non Serviam
Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp
Black/thrash
Melechesh - Emissaries
Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising
Absu - Tara
Desaster - Hellfire's Dominion
Viking and folk
Bathory - Hammerheart
Skyclad - The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea
Moonsorrow - Voimasta ja Kunniasta
Cruachan - Tuatha Na Gael
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Doom
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes
Stillborn - Necrospirituals
Pentagram - Relentless
Cauchemar - Tenebrario
Death metal
Luciferion - Demonication (The Manifest)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Behemoth - Zos Kia Cultus (Here and Beyond)
The Chasm - Conjuration of the Spectral Empire
Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade
Gothic metal*
Moonspell - Irreligious
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses

* As in, actual gothic metal, gothic rock + metal, not "symphonic metal with female vocals" e_e

...Aaaand I got carried away. >_< Sorry if those are too obvious and you already know 'em (I left out super-obvious stuff like Priest/Maiden/Sabbath etc. because of that). I can adjust with more obscure stuff if you like.

Is power/thrash or power/heavy okay? If so, I'll add...

Metal Church - Metal Church
Running Wild - Pile of Skulls
Jag Panzer - Thane to the Throne

Ok, I'll stop now.

Deleted member 23850 · May 5, 2018

Pile of Skulls is great, but whatever anyone does, don't sleep on Death or Glory if you haven't.

selfReg · May 5, 2018

Morrigan said:
The Chasm - Conjuration of the Spectral Empire

will gladly provide the link for this one. The Chasm made be a believer in Mexican death metal with this single track.

Bitanator · May 5, 2018

Morrigan said:
That could take a while.... *sweatdrop*

But, okay! I'm not going to hunt for links though, because I'm sure they're all easy searchable on Bandcamp and/or Youtube or your preferred music source. Some of my favourite albums ever, sans power metal :

Traditional/heavy
Mercyful Fate - Don't Breath the Oath
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Satan - Atom by Atom
Satan's Host By the Hands of the Devil
Natur - Head of Death
Accept - Restless and Wild
Saxon - Denim and Leather
Thrash
Exodus - Bonded by Blood
Overkill - The Years of Decay
Anacrusis - Screams and Whispers
Artillery - By Inheritance
Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
Sodom - Agent Orange
Black metal
Summoning - Minas Morgul
Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane
In the Woods... - HEart of the Ages
Samael - Blood Ritual
Rotting Christ - Non Serviam
Varathron - His Majesty at the Swamp
Black/thrash
Melechesh - Emissaries
Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising
Absu - Tara
Desaster - Hellfire's Dominion
Viking and folk
Bathory - Hammerheart
Skyclad - The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea
Moonsorrow - Voimasta ja Kunniasta
Cruachan - Tuatha Na Gael
Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa
Doom
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes
Stillborn - Necrospirituals
Pentagram - Relentless
Cauchemar - Tenebrario
Death metal
Luciferion - Demonication (The Manifest)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Behemoth - Zos Kia Cultus (Here and Beyond)
The Chasm - Conjuration of the Spectral Empire
Bolt Thrower - The IVth Crusade
Gothic metal*
Moonspell - Irreligious
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses

* As in, actual gothic metal, gothic rock + metal, not "symphonic metal with female vocals" e_e

...Aaaand I got carried away. >_< Sorry if those are too obvious and you already know 'em (I left out super-obvious stuff like Priest/Maiden/Sabbath etc. because of that). I can adjust with more obscure stuff if you like.

Is power/thrash or power/heavy okay? If so, I'll add...

Metal Church - Metal Church
Running Wild - Pile of Skulls
Jag Panzer - Thane to the Throne

Ok, I'll stop now.

Another Power/thrash addition
Powermad - Absolute Power

That list would fill even Jabba the Hutts most satiate desires otherwise

Skelepuzzle · May 5, 2018

Told somebody I would post here from that genre thread, which has been really enjoyable.

What's the next upcoming album everyone is looking forward to? For me it either Scar Symmetry's upcoming New Singularity Pt 2 or Firesoul's (ex mercenary members) album. If they actually manage to create a post 11 Dreams album I will be the happiest man child ever.

Cream Stout · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

Trivium - Ember to Inferno. This was done when most of the band was still like 17 so while a bit rough vocally, I think the song itself is one of their best. Nice thrashy/gothenburg sound to it

In Flames - Moonshield. Just one of my favorite songs of all time.

Opeth - Harlequin Forest, Bleak
Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe, Ghost Prototype I - Measurement of Thought, Neohuman
Throwdown - Vendetta
Protest the Hero - Bloodmeat, Bone Marrow
Every Time I Die - We'rewolf, Rendez VooDoo
Wolfheart - Aeon of Cold, Zero Gravity

dis all i got for now :3

blahness · May 5, 2018

selfReg said:
will gladly provide the link for this one. The Chasm made be a believer in Mexican death metal with this single track.

Got my tickets to see them in Aug. Really looking forward to this one.

ascii · May 5, 2018

Not exactly tribal, but check out Rotting Christ - Rituals. As the name suggests, its metal mixed with ritualistic chanting, and album is excellent.

Worth seeing them live as well if you get a chance, they have the same hypnotic quality of bands like Enslaved.

Nachtmaer · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

I admit I mention these guys any chance I get, but I still think this is still one of the better doom albums in the past decade.
Bongripper - Satan Worshipping Doom

Slomatics - Future Echo Returns

Andrew Korenchkin said:
Pile of Skulls is great, but whatever anyone does, don't sleep on Death or Glory if you haven't.

I'd say you can't go wrong with anything up to Black Hand Inn. After that they had a lot more forgettable songs mixed with some really great ones. Stay the hell away from Rogues en Vogue and up.

Sanox · May 5, 2018

Omnipotent said:
Give me reccomendations from all your favorite bands

no power metal though

Band with some of my favorite songs

Melodeath
Omnium Gatherum - The Unknowing
Insomnium - Ephemeral
Scar Symmetry - Limits to Infinity
Whispered - Blade in the Snow
Karlahan - The Lighthouse Keeper
Wintersun - Sons of Winter and Stars, Loneliness (Winter)
Aether Realm - Tarot, The Sun the Moon The Star

Folk
Eluveitie - Quoth the Raven
Equilibrium - Blut im Auge, Apocalypse
Finsterforst - Nichts als Asche

Doom
Draconian - The Drowning Age

Black
Agathodaimon - Oceans of Black
Summoning - Land of the Dead

Core
Nocturnal Bloodlust - Ng+, I-V-III
Breakdown of Sanity - Bulletproof
Dreamshade - Photographs (first album melodeah then changed to a melodic metalcore sound)

Prog
Devin Townsend Project - Grace
Seventh Wonder - Victorious
Evergrey - Hymns for the Broken
Ayreon - Connect the Dots

Amorphis - You I need
Hard to categorize as they like to change their style

Battle Beast - Out of Control (mix of power and classic heavy metal sound)
Unleash the Archers - Apex (power metal with a classic heavy metal vibe)

Symphonic
Epica - The Quantum Enigma
Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Delain - The Gathering, Suckerpunch, I'll Reach You

Probably forgetting a lot..

Hell Shinobi · May 5, 2018

Morrigan said:
That could take a while.... *sweatdrop*

Thrash

Overkill - The Years of Decay

I don't use forums alot, much less metal forums, so this could be completely wrong. But i believe that this album is a little underrated right?
I consider it a Masterpiece, one of the best Thrash albuns of all times. And (hot take) the only Overkill album worth hearing :P

You're probably old-school so you know this album and this band, but i always felt like this a "spiritual" sucessor of the Years of Decay, even if it's older (i just knew about them later :P)

EDIT: Another 1986 Gem!!!

Martoridley · May 5, 2018

Hey metal-era :) Question: what is, in your opinion, the best metal band to hear during gym or other sports? Interested in your answers, no other genre pushes me to the limits like metal.

Martoridley · May 5, 2018

Edit: sorry for the double-post.

m_dorian · May 5, 2018

Song of the Day

A blast from the past from one of my GOAT albums of 1976.

lordxar · May 5, 2018

Recommendations from my favorites huh...ok Let's go through my library then.

Bear Mace - Butchering the Colossus
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey
Deicide - Deicide
Denouncement Pyre - Black Sun Unbound
Desaster - Oath of an Iron Ritual
Destroyer 666 - Unchain the Wolves
Dissection - The Somberlain
Embalmer - There Was Blood Everywhere
Forteresse - Themes Pour La Rebellion
Iced Earth - Night of the Stormrider
Inquisition - Into the Infernal Regions of the Ancient Cult
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Massacre - From Beyond
Megadeth - Rust in Peace
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Mgla - Exercises in Futility
Nocternity - Harps of the Ancient Temples
Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power
Rigor Mortis - Rigor Mortis
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
Tsjuder - Desert Northern Hell
Uada - Devoid of Light
Wode - Wode

Martoridley said:
Hey metal-era :) Question: what is, in your opinion, the best metal band to hear during gym or other sports? Interested in your answers, no other genre pushes me to the limits like metal.

I lift four days a week but listen to music nearly non stop while I work so pretty much everything in my library is on high rotation. If I had to give any kind of blind recommendation I'd say Slayer. The song War Ensemble gets my blood flowing as does Threshold, but pretty much anything from their first few albums are burners that get you up and moving. Which Slayer is pretty much my go to when I need to get shit done. Like I said though, metal is pretty much constantly buzzing in my ears so even while lifting I go by what I'm in the mood for even if it isn't exactly going to move me.

Martoridley · May 5, 2018

I lift four days a week but listen to music nearly non stop while I work so pretty much everything in my library is on high rotation. If I had to give any kind of blind recommendation I'd say Slayer. The song War Ensemble gets my blood flowing as does Threshold, but pretty much anything from their first few albums are burners that get you up and moving. Which Slayer is pretty much my go to when I need to get shit done. Like I said though, metal is pretty much constantly buzzing in my ears so even while lifting I go by what I'm in the mood for even if it isn't exactly going to move me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Slayer is awesome for workouts. First album and seasons are my favorites if I want to get going. Although I'm finding myself listening more and more to Meshuggah. Especially Obzen is a great workout-album in my opinion.

Bitanator · May 5, 2018

Hell Shinobi said:
I don't use forums alot, much less metal forums, so this could be completely wrong. But i believe that this album is a little underrated right?
I consider it a Masterpiece, one of the best Thrash albuns of all times. And (hot take) the only Overkill album worth hearing :P

You're probably old-school so you know this album and this band, but i always felt like this a "spiritual" sucessor of the Years of Decay, even if it's older (i just knew about them later :P)

No, it is not underrated, it is properly revered by thrash community, I had just mentioned above how it was my second favorite thrash album.

And BLASPHEMOUS! Listen to their first five again, nothing can touch that consistency, there is no fillers anywhere all the way through Horrorscope

Lasty, Mortal Sin sounds nothing like Overkill man, that debut is raw and super energetic, one of the better debuts of thrash to me and they had not even properly found thier voice yet until Face of Despair (In my top ten thrash albums), even song structure wise or tone there is no comparable to Year off Decay at all. I'd like to know where you are drawing comparisons.

Hell Shinobi · May 5, 2018

Bitanator said:
No, it is not underrated, it is properly revered by thrash community, I had just mentioned above how it was my second favorite thrash album.

And BLASPHEMOUS! Listen to their first five again, nothing can touch that consistency, there is no fillers anywhere all the way through Horrorscope

Lasty, Mortal Sin sounds nothing like Overkill man, that debut is raw and super energetic, one of the better debuts of thrash to me and they had not even properly found thier voice yet until Face of Despair (In my top ten thrash albums), even song structure wise or tone there is no comparable to Year off Decay at all. I'd like to know where you are drawing comparisons.

I know they don't sound alike, but the way both albums are structured i was felt they were follow'ups. The variety of songs composition. The slower pace of of both albums until the climatic ending. One of them just E.N.D. s!
I was 10 years old at the time, no zines, no intenet, people just dubbed the tapes, i had no idea what an Overkill or a Mortal Sin was :P

And i stand by my previous statement, i truly feel the other albums of Overkill don't hold up at all.

ohhthegore · May 5, 2018

Irminsul said:
I recently saw The Body live, and it's an experience I'd very much recommend. It's heavy as fuck (something that doesn't quite carry over to recordings of live shows), but I found the vocals to be the most impressive part. Here's some live footage (vocals start around 2:55):

one of my fav bands

Morrigan · May 5, 2018

Hell Shinobi said:
I don't use forums alot, much less metal forums, so this could be completely wrong. But i believe that this album is a little underrated right?
I consider it a Masterpiece, one of the best Thrash albuns of all times. And (hot take) the only Overkill album worth hearing :P

Hmm a lot to unpack here. I wouldn't say The Years of Decay is underrated; as Bitanator said it's properly credited as a thrash classic in every metal community worth being in. I do agree it's one of the best thrash albums of all time, fully with you there. The only Overkill one worth hearing? Nah, now this I can't remotely agree with. So, basically, no, yes, no. :D

You're probably old-school so you know this album and this band, but i always felt like this a "spiritual" sucessor of the Years of Decay, even if it's older (i just knew about them later :P)

EDIT: Another 1986 Gem!!!

I don't think I heard this one actually. Gonna check it now. Thanks.

Martoridley said:
Hey metal-era :) Question: what is, in your opinion, the best metal band to hear during gym or other sports? Interested in your answers, no other genre pushes me to the limits like metal.

I don't do gym stuff, but when I go for a run, nothing gets me going during those sprint intervals like some Melechesh or Desaster.

lordxar · May 5, 2018

Overkill is a damn good band that gets overlooked. Hell I do it and I love them. I've yet to own one of their albums. For some reason I always pass them over when buying. I'm not sure why either. Exodus also falls in the same path for me. If I had to put a reason to it I'd say the earlier albums for both bands have ultra cheesy cover art and from what I've heard were not as well produced as the more known band's early albums. I have both on my buy list and will get to them...some fine day

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