Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 |OT| Six Seasons and a Seventh

Kirblar · May 5, 2018

The creators clearly had an option select in place depending on whether or not they were renewed w/ how certain things have been structured.

Renewal would lead to making Infinity War tie in at the end of the season.
Cancellation would lead to them ignoring it.

going into more spoilerific detail

The entire season has been set up so that it conceivably take place in a loop where the snap happens. Many characters are entirely absent from the "future flashbacks" all season long and it allowed them to set up a possible IW tie in without actually committing to it until they knew whether or not they were getting renewed.

Chirotera · May 5, 2018

I wonder if the earth being cracked open and blown apart is what stopped Thanos from achieving his goal in the original timeline.

What if by stopping that catastrophe they leave the door open for Thanos to achieve his goals?

Kirblar · May 5, 2018

Chirotera said:
I wonder if the earth being cracked open and blown apart is what stopped Thanos from achieving his goal in the original timeline.

What if by stopping that catastrophe they leave the door open for Thanos to achieve his goals?

This was the option select. If the show got cancelled, the loop ignores Infinity War and it can be assumed that the earth blowing up trainwrecks the MCU timeline. But if it got renewed, Infinity War is integrated into the loop.

Deleted member 198 · May 5, 2018

The Earth cracking open is almost assuredly because of the Gravatonium at the core.

Egg0 · May 5, 2018

The VFX was on point this episode.

I like how Daisy pulled a Fitz without even thinking. Ignoring the moral implications of saving Coulson using centipede tech without his permission. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thinkingemoji:

ratcliffja · May 5, 2018

I have never watched more than a clip of AoS but have they ever used Arcade? He seems like the kind of villain that's too goofy for the Netflix shows and too minor for the movies but would work great on the small screen. He might be tied up with X-Men rights, though.

Deleted member 198 · May 5, 2018

"let Coulson die" I still believe refers to saving him from Hale, because that also led to well, Talbot

Tetsujin · May 5, 2018

I assume next week we'll finally get news about whether it's canceled or renewed. Fingers crossed...

StarCreator · May 5, 2018

ratcliffja said:
I have never watched more than a clip of AoS but have they ever used Arcade? He seems like the kind of villain that's too goofy for the Netflix shows and too minor for the movies but would work great on the small screen. He might be tied up with X-Men rights, though.

Nope.

ZeoVGM · May 5, 2018

Egg0 said:
The VFX was on point this episode.

I like how Daisy pulled a Fitz without even thinking. Ignoring the moral implications of saving Coulson using centipede tech without his permission. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thinkingemoji:

We gotta stop comparing anything Daisy has done to trying to save Coulson using morally questionable methods.

Nothing she has done is even remotely close to risking permanently paralyzing a person, which is what Fitz did. (And that's ignoring her Earth-shattering powers which were still the most likely cause of something happening to the planet.)

ZeoVGM · May 5, 2018

ratcliffja said:
I have never watched more than a clip of AoS but have they ever used Arcade? He seems like the kind of villain that's too goofy for the Netflix shows and too minor for the movies but would work great on the small screen. He might be tied up with X-Men rights, though.

X-Men rights, unfortunately.

(For real though. Take a weekend, start marathoning AoS on Netflix. The shaky first half of season 1 works better in a marathon and then it's nearly non-stop greatness.)

ratcliffja · May 5, 2018

ZeoVGM said:
X-Men rights, unfortunately.

(For real though. Take a weekend, start marathoning AoS on Netflix. The shaky first half of season 1 works better in a marathon and then it's nearly non-stop greatness.)

Season 1 seemed fine but I tried to give it a shot when I heard they had the Absorbing Man but the clips I saw were terrible. The acting is just so, so bad. Maybe I'll give it another shot but absolutely none of the plot I've read about interests me in the slightest.

ZeoVGM · May 5, 2018

ratcliffja said:
Season 1 seemed fine but I tried to give it a shot when I heard they had the Absorbing Man but the clips I saw were terrible. The acting is just so, so bad. Maybe I'll give it another shot but absolutely none of the plot I've read about interests me in the slightest.

Absorbing Man isn't played by the greatest actor but the main cast is largely fantastic.

Keyser S · May 5, 2018

Bad acting... :(

Chirotera · May 5, 2018

Kirblar said:
This was the option select. If the show got cancelled, the loop ignores Infinity War and it can be assumed that the earth blowing up trainwrecks the MCU timeline. But if it got renewed, Infinity War is integrated into the loop.

It's just such a shitty thing, save the world from being destroyed but oops...

Infinity War

Thanos now wipes out half the universe

Fuzzy · May 5, 2018

Chirotera said:
It's just such a shitty thing, save the world from being destroyed but oops...

Infinity War

Thanos now wipes out half the universe

More than half of humanity was gone in the destroyed Earth future so they're still up with Thanos only taking half :P

BorganXI · May 5, 2018

Keyser S said:
Bad acting... :(

Man, that scene was so great watching it live.

The AIDA arc, and season 4 were fantastic.

Katten · May 5, 2018

Keyser S said:
Bad acting... :(

The "But *what* Leopold?" line is so damn perfectly delivered.

ratcliffja · May 5, 2018

ZeoVGM said:
Absorbing Man isn't played by the greatest actor but the main cast is largely fantastic.

Nah his acting was fine. It was the agents that killed me.

Lonestar · May 5, 2018

Maybe a title like: Nazi's [OFF] Thanos [ON] Lemons [IN BED]

vivftp · May 5, 2018

I love that Fitz and Mack created the artificial gravity system that would be used in the future Lighthouse system for the Zephyr.

Dr Doom · May 5, 2018

Reality Stone gives you Lemons

Nostremitus · May 5, 2018

CallMeShaft said:
I was just looking at info on the new Ant Man movie after seeing the trailer, and had a thought. A week or two ago, someone here mentioned that Chloe filmed a scene with some secret guest after the season 5 wrap up party. Considering that Ant Man and the Wasp takes place right before (and possible during) Infinity War, I'm wondering if it might be a character from that film, specifically Randall Park, who is listed as a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent in that movie. He also stars on ABC's Fresh Off the Boat, so he might be an easy get for the show.

Or they came by to shoot an AntMan and Wasp post credits scene...

Keyser S · May 5, 2018

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Egg0 · May 5, 2018

I'd be dope if Paul Rudd just showed up from out of nowhere.

curiouscharles · May 5, 2018

Mitchman said:
Cause I am broke af, have no friends irl who want to watch superhero flicks, and I have no time working night shifts all the time.

Also broke af, and also love matinees.

Movie (matinee showing) was so worth it.

Dennis8K · May 5, 2018

LMAO Thanos is going to

save the future by dusting Talbot

Clowns · May 5, 2018

Dennis8K said:
LMAO Thanos is going to

save the future by dusting Talbot

What would be different about this current timeline that Thanos changes the future this time but not all the others?

Htown · May 5, 2018

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That might be too long.

Rvaan · May 5, 2018

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Lonestar · May 5, 2018

vivftp said:
I love that Fitz and Mack created the artificial gravity system that would be used in the future Lighthouse system for the Zephyr.

Creating a nice paradox. Able to make it, because you saw it in the future, which only existed because you made it in the past.

Selbran · May 5, 2018

Yeah, I don't get the people saying that the events of Infinity War would affect this timeline, this is why these time-travel plots are always such a mess because it is so difficult to write around these things. The way the time-loop is set up, everything that has currently happened and will happen is part of the loop and something the team does is what would break that loop.

The snap presumably happens in the other timelines before the current loop because it isn't like Thanos coming to Earth was random, it was planned and known about by many in advance. I'm guessing the in the future they visited Talbot destroyed the planet, but Thanos still invaded and snapped people like Mack, away. That way it can be explained why he was gone and also why the planet was destroyed.

Mariolee · May 5, 2018

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DangerMouse · May 5, 2018

Agreed Lotus.

Magwik said:
"let Coulson die" I still believe refers to saving him from Hale, because that also led to well, Talbot

I agree, it was her trying to say not to go after him.

ZeoVGM said:
We gotta stop comparing anything Daisy has done to trying to save Coulson using morally questionable methods.

Nothing she has done is even remotely close to risking permanently paralyzing a person, which is what Fitz did. (And that's ignoring her Earth-shattering powers which were still the most likely cause of something happening to the planet.)

Agreed. Her and May have a radical potentially risky plan, trying to combine such stuff together, in order to try and save Coulson, but so far they've not needed to do anything that hurts anyone else to gather the materials or anything.

Rvaan said:
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LMAO

CaviarMeths · May 5, 2018

Man they really just let Talbot ham it up lol.

Was kinda hoping Hale would have a redemption arc. Welp.

BKatastrophe · May 6, 2018

So Daisy was Kassius Sr.'s weapon against Talbot? So hear me out, because I have an assumption about how this plays out:

Kassius Sr. sends Daisy to confront Talbot as he is gaining access to more gravitonium. She quakes the gravitonium,causing it to go boom which also kills Talbot.

This is Kassius Sr. basically saying "I found it and if I can't have it all to myself than no one can." Based on his comment about Earth being a hidden blue gem and how possessive he seems to be.

Slayven said:
I always catch the last few minutes of the show and it always seems batshit. I need to binge it one day

No you don't

Trust in me

You do not

It is batshit though. Just the really bad kind.

Slayven said:
Inhuman dna, bootleg super soldier serum, and alien PCP sounds like a way to fuck up some shit

Coulson puts all the pieces together yet again

Slayven said:
These confederacy have the worse security

Well they are a "secret" society

BrokenFiction said:
Not that it would happen, but which of the Black Order would be easiest to get on the show, VFX wise?

Proxima Midnight

Didn't look like much CG at all.

Kirblar said:
Someone on Reddit just went back and transcribed the dialogue from Future Yo-Yo.

It's totally happening.

Mack... He's still alive. Hold him for as long as you can.

What happens to Mack? What happens?

I was on fire, reaching for Mack. And then there was nothing there.

Yooooooooo shit

BorganXI said:
Man, that scene was so great watching it live.

The AIDA arc, and season 4 were fantastic.

Those final two episodes of S4 were some of the most gripping television I have ever watched.

adrem007 · May 6, 2018

I don't really like the Ruby's death conflict. She was a fucked up weapon of mass destruction, I understand that Mack can be upset, but he needs to chill a little

Volimar · May 6, 2018

Mack does seem a little pissy considering he's seen the aftermath of the destroyer of worlds.

Entryhazard · May 6, 2018

Htown said:
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That might be too long.

It might be long but it's absolutely brilliant so it has my vote

StarCreator · May 6, 2018

BKatastrophe said:
Proxima Midnight

Didn't look like much CG at all.

She's a 100% CG character. And also like 9 ft tall.

Deleted member 1248 · May 6, 2018

StarCreator said:
She's a 100% CG character. And also like 9 ft tall.

This version is only about six feet.

Romez · May 6, 2018

So if they do connect it to IW

i'm guessing Deke, Talbot and those agents they conveniently brought back (short haired chick and white pilot dude) are going to die and if they have the balls maybe Mack and/or Elena.

StarCreator · May 6, 2018

The Kree said:
This version is only about six feet.

Definitely taller than that.

Loki is 6'3" and despite standing behind him, Proxima is still clearly a full head taller.

If she's not 9 feet tall like I thought, she is definitely around 8 feet at a minimum.

MilesQ · May 6, 2018

Interesting direction with Talbot possibly being the one who cracks the Earth.

Cool IW namedrop too, but I feel they might have been better off not mentioning it at all. Any attempts to have the events of the movie impact their world is going to feel hollow if the show ends up renewed.

Garrison · May 6, 2018

I don't know if I like where this is going.

It looks like everyone has lost there freaking mind in the last episode.
Mack's now this violence never solved anything priest ever more than before. Dude is getting upset at his woman who did something to the psycho that chopped her freaking arms out after seeing all the shit that happens.

Daisy's and Agent May are putting together the worst of the f-ing worst idea ever to revive Agent Coulson against his own will, might as well throw in coke, PCP and 10 more drugs into that mix for all it's worth. How the f do you dig up your own Mom's grave, what in the F....

Deke turned from space survivor badass sort of discount starlord to a complete enamored quake starstruck idiot with a one time jump to the past.

And Fitz just turned into that dude with mental issues that everyone keeps an eye out with the corner of their stare when he gets close to the kitchen drawers yet they let him play with whatever he wants.

This season might be better if they just keep it being the last one I think.

Fhtagn · May 6, 2018

MilesQ said:
Interesting direction with Talbot possibly being the one who cracks the Earth.

Cool IW namedrop too, but I feel they might have been better off not mentioning it at all. Any attempts to have the events of the movie impact their world is going to feel hollow if the show ends up renewed.

I was thinking the opposite, that

if the show doesn't get renewed, ending with the snap currently in play is a very dark ending, whereas if they do get renewed on a schedule that overlaps with A4, they get to explore the impact of IW more, while still having closure post-A4 when the rest of us do.

MilesQ · May 6, 2018

Fhtagn said:
I was thinking the opposite, that

if the show doesn't get renewed, ending with the snap currently in play is a very dark ending, whereas if they do get renewed on a schedule that overlaps with A4, they get to explore the impact of IW more, while still having closure post-A4 when the rest of us do.

That's a great point. It'd be interesting to get a street level look at the impact of events. And with how AoS focuses on 'pods', it could work pretty well.

ZeoVGM · May 6, 2018

I think exploring a post-Infinity War world in AoS would add even more context to what the Avengers need to do in A4 and make the stakes feel even higher.

But I have to be honest, I don't see why they would even bother mentioning Thanos at all unless they knew they were getting renewed. Why waste time on any sort of an Infinity War tie-in for the final three episodes of the series?

So, fingers crossed.

Wag · May 6, 2018

I was just thinking in the series finale:

Coulson would die, thus saving the world

Fart Master · May 6, 2018

So any tie in?

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