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Chrno

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,591
I've been on 3 dates with a girl. I think we have really hit it off but I'll go on OkCupid and see that she's on there at least once a day or so. Does this mean she's not into me? Is it ridiculous of me to be jealous of this? I'm not showing my hand when we talk, playing it cool but shit is bothering me.

maybe she's on there checking to see if you're on there..

which you are...

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Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,687
DFW
I've been on 3 dates with a girl. I think we have really hit it off but I'll go on OkCupid and see that she's on there at least once a day or so. Does this mean she's not into me? Is it ridiculous of me to be jealous of this? I'm not showing my hand when we talk, playing it cool but shit is bothering me.
Yes, it's ridiculous that you're jealous.

No, it doesn't mean she's not into you: you've got a fourth date planned, don't you?

Until you're exclusive, you're not. Date other people. She probably is.

Or, if you want to be exclusive with her (and you probably shouldn't after just three dates), ask.
 

Ashby

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,631
Yes, it's ridiculous that you're jealous.

No, it doesn't mean she's not into you: you've got a fourth date planned, don't you?

Until you're exclusive, you're not. Date other people. She probably is.

Or, if you want to be exclusive with her (and you probably shouldn't after just three dates), ask.
When should I ask?
 

InvisibleMan

Member
Oct 27, 2017
137
Asked a co-worker out today.

"Not now, maybe later."

Is what she said after I asked if she'd like to go out sometime.

Felt like a gut punch since I was almost sure there was mutual interest.
 

Natels

Member
Oct 26, 2017
860
Pretty shitty situation but long story (kinda) short:

I met a girl at work. (My mom also works there and knows her, just for later clarification). We started to get to know each other, we have a lot in common. She started giving me signals like grabbing me from behind, starting texting, waiting for me and talking for hours after work (she is very introverted) and a LOT other stuff. We even went on a work dinner as a couple but I didn't make a move. After that I found out that she has a BF in a different country. And he actually has a degree from my Uni. And she never mentioned him whatsoever. So I backed off as that's pretty fucked up. But we kept chatting ocasionaly, mostly about work.

Some weeks later she had a conversation with my mom about my ex. She even asked if I was over her. She also said that her relationship with her BF was very shaky because they didn't have anything in common and that she would go out with me whenever I wanted and if he said something about it she would dump him.

What the hell is her problem? Monkey branching?
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,686
Hi all,
Does anyone in this thread have experience dealing with their okcupid account being suspended?

Having re-read the terms, I am not in violation of anything so this looks like it was either an error or a case of someone else hacking into my account.

I've contacted customer support but it seems like they don't usually respond and reading other users' testimonies creating a new account with the same or similar pictures/text is a good way to get suspended again.

Okc is by far the most popular dating site in my area so being kicked out could have a noticeable effect on my dating prospects.

I've had this account for over 6 years with zero issues so it's pretty strange being suspended out of the blue like this.
 

Ernest

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,463
So.Cal.
Pretty shitty situation but long story (kinda) short:

I met a girl at work. (My mom also works there and knows her, just for later clarification). We started to get to know each other, we have a lot in common. She started giving me signals like grabbing me from behind, starting texting, waiting for me and talking for hours after work (she is very introverted) and a LOT other stuff. We even went on a work dinner as a couple but I didn't make a move. After that I found out that she has a BF in a different country. And he actually has a degree from my Uni. And she never mentioned him whatsoever. So I backed off as that's pretty fucked up. But we kept chatting ocasionaly, mostly about work.

Some weeks later she had a conversation with my mom about my ex. She even asked if I was over her. She also said that her relationship with her BF was very shaky because they didn't have anything in common and that she would go out with me whenever I wanted and if he said something about it she would dump him.

What the hell is her problem? Monkey branching?

Her boyfriend's in another country so she's lonely and needs the attention she should be getting from him. Unless he's moving back, they'll be done soon. But I certainly wouldn't get with her before she definitely ends things with him. But then, if she's willing to be secretive, flirt with other guys and stuff while still "dating" this other dude, regardless of distance, she might do the same to you. Just talk to her yourself, don't rely on 2nd hand info from your mom. Clear things up, as her what she wants, tell her what you want and move on from there. But as usual, you probably shouldn't date a co-worker, especially one who's flirting while dating someone else.
 

Natels

Member
Oct 26, 2017
860
Her boyfriend's in another country so she's lonely and needs the attention she should be getting from him. Unless he's moving back, they'll be done soon. But I certainly wouldn't get with her before she definitely ends things with him. But then, if she's willing to be secretive, flirt with other guys and stuff while still "dating" this other dude, regardless of distance, she might do the same to you. Just talk to her yourself, don't rely on 2nd hand info from your mom. Clear things up, as her what she wants, tell her what you want and move on from there. But as usual, you probably shouldn't date a co-worker, especially one who's flirting while dating someone else.

Yeah. I'm not going to get involved with someone who does that kind of crap. She just quit the job actually, and she doesn't have a new one. She's just a fucking mess.

Thanks for your reply!
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,053
Hi all,
Does anyone in this thread have experience dealing with their okcupid account being suspended?

Having re-read the terms, I am not in violation of anything so this looks like it was either an error or a case of someone else hacking into my account.

I've contacted customer support but it seems like they don't usually respond and reading other users' testimonies creating a new account with the same or similar pictures/text is a good way to get suspended again.

Okc is by far the most popular dating site in my area so being kicked out could have a noticeable effect on my dating prospects.

I've had this account for over 6 years with zero issues so it's pretty strange being suspended out of the blue like this.

Just don't use the same photos. I doubt they are using facial recognition software to link two photos together.

Can someone please tell me that dating is actually different if you live in a city?

I live in a town and it's pretty terrible, a lot of ghosting and people who don't know what they want.

I'd like to hope that women in a city actually like going on dates, more different I hope

Define ghosting, as it can mean a lot of things. Like, not responding to messages after you meet? Happens constantly in the city.

Conversations themselves just die, as they should. It is 100% okay to just stop texting somebody you haven't made any plans with yet.

The distances involved in suburban/rural dating can be a big barrier. Not only are there more women around me in Chicago than out in the suburbs, but it is generally super easy to grab tea/coffee after work or on a weekend AM, or drinks barring that. I've dated substantially more women in the last two years than I had in the previous fifteen. Still haven't found much serious, but that's on me and not on the odds. Being in the city has been tremendously better for my dating life, and my confidence.

Asked a co-worker out today.

"Not now, maybe later."

Is what she said after I asked if she'd like to go out sometime.

Felt like a gut punch since I was almost sure there was mutual interest.

Don't invest emotionally in any type of situation that has a structural barrier. Falling for that kind of trap will erode your confidence over time.

Pretty shitty situation but long story (kinda) short:

I met a girl at work. (My mom also works there and knows her, just for later clarification). We started to get to know each other, we have a lot in common. She started giving me signals like grabbing me from behind, starting texting, waiting for me and talking for hours after work (she is very introverted) and a LOT other stuff. We even went on a work dinner as a couple but I didn't make a move. After that I found out that she has a BF in a different country. And he actually has a degree from my Uni. And she never mentioned him whatsoever. So I backed off as that's pretty fucked up. But we kept chatting ocasionaly, mostly about work.

Some weeks later she had a conversation with my mom about my ex. She even asked if I was over her. She also said that her relationship with her BF was very shaky because they didn't have anything in common and that she would go out with me whenever I wanted and if he said something about it she would dump him.

What the hell is her problem? Monkey branching?

IMO, avoid for like 4 different reasons.

I've never heard the term Monkey Branching before, but, uh, yeah, totally sucks to fall for that kind of situation. It is very unlikely to work out for you, and is very likely to just ended up hurting you and wasting your time.

Yeah I respect boundaries but what I've realized is that I actually am not reading signs or something because I never kiss on the first date or second or really even touch or look for signs of interest and try to build on them. Like I think I need to be more flirty, touch more, read signs obviously and if they are there try to kiss on dates. I feel like I friend zone myself because I am really good at conversation and I've been told I'm really interesting and a great person to be around and attractive in many ways but I need to get out of my comfort zone because my expression of interest is sort of a flatline. My touching and being vulnerable with this aspect of showing attraction and building it is an ice bucket and it is really losing me a potentially really rewarding and warm relationship. What feels natural to me is being sort of cold and distant. I think it is an aspect of a lack of some confidence. anyone have any advice here or a book or youtube video that helped them?

As much as it wounds me to acknowledge this, I actually kind of empathize with Widdle Puppy here.

It isn't just about giving signals and reading signals, but also being on the same page as the other person with regards to what constitute signals, and what the "appropriate" rate of progression is. You're probably closer to making things happen than you think. There's been women I've gone on three dates that were totally non-receptive to touching, but still wanted to go on more dates with me, which a few years ago I would have said is extremely odd but I guess is more common than I had expected.
 
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Oct 26, 2017
8,686
Just don't use the same photos. I doubt they are using facial recognition software to link two photos together.
If it comes to that, that's what I'll do.

Still sucks having to use a different email just for okc (I'm not about to use a work email so have to setup a new personal email), rewrite my profile and re answer hundreds of questions for no apparent reason.

Was hoping perhaps someone here knew of a more effective way of getting in contact with their support.
 
Oct 30, 2017
8,967
Pretty shitty situation but long story (kinda) short:

I met a girl at work. (My mom also works there and knows her, just for later clarification). We started to get to know each other, we have a lot in common. She started giving me signals like grabbing me from behind, starting texting, waiting for me and talking for hours after work (she is very introverted) and a LOT other stuff. We even went on a work dinner as a couple but I didn't make a move. After that I found out that she has a BF in a different country. And he actually has a degree from my Uni. And she never mentioned him whatsoever. So I backed off as that's pretty fucked up. But we kept chatting ocasionaly, mostly about work.

Some weeks later she had a conversation with my mom about my ex. She even asked if I was over her. She also said that her relationship with her BF was very shaky because they didn't have anything in common and that she would go out with me whenever I wanted and if he said something about it she would dump him.

What the hell is her problem? Monkey branching?

Just remember: if she does it to him, she'll do it to you.
 

Sayers

Member
Oct 28, 2017
603
Hey duders,
I've been on two dates with this girl but I have decided I'm really not interested for a number of reasons. She's a great girl, I just don't think it's a good fit. Is two dates enough that I owe her a "sorry this isn't going to work for me" message? Or should I just stop communicating? I suspect she might know it's not going to continue given that our last date ended with no attempts to make any further plans but I also feel kind of bad about saying nothing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Hey duders,
I've been on two dates with this girl but I have decided I'm really not interested for a number of reasons. She's a great girl, I just don't think it's a good fit. Is two dates enough that I owe her a "sorry this isn't going to work for me" message? Or should I just stop communicating? I suspect she might know it's not going to continue given that our last date ended with no attempts to make any further plans but I also feel kind of bad about saying nothing.
Don't ghost, just send the message and then block/delete her number.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,687
DFW
Hey duders,
I've been on two dates with this girl but I have decided I'm really not interested for a number of reasons. She's a great girl, I just don't think it's a good fit. Is two dates enough that I owe her a "sorry this isn't going to work for me" message? Or should I just stop communicating? I suspect she might know it's not going to continue given that our last date ended with no attempts to make any further plans but I also feel kind of bad about saying nothing.
Are you both actually still texting? If so, I agree with Bacon. If she's hitting you up for plans or trying to stay engaged, that's a different story, and you've got to send a message to end it.

On the other hand, it communication has completely halted after two lackluster dates, then I'd just move on. You don't need to send the "I really wasn't that into you, sorry" message: the silence is enough evidence of that.
 

Sayers

Member
Oct 28, 2017
603
Are you both actually still texting? If so, I agree with Bacon. If she's hitting you up for plans or trying to stay engaged, that's a different story, and you've got to send a message to end it.

On the other hand, it communication has completely halted after two lackluster dates, then I'd just move on. You don't need to send the "I really wasn't that into you, sorry" message: the silence is enough evidence of that.
We haven't communicated since parting ways on Friday evening.
 

Lulu

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
26,680
So I feel like venting a bit, i few months ago I did this;

Hey guys, I feel pretty crappy. I just broke up with this girl I really like, who's perfect and has help me so much but I'm just not ready to be tied down to one person and I had to be fair to her. What's wrong with me? She's so wonderful, I don't get why I feel this way.

So first and foremost what I did definitely wasn't a mistake at the time and the was the right thing to do. Now that said, I feel fucking awful about it these days. All the dating around since has felt really empty and hollow, I'm realizing how hard it is to find someone I'm genuinely into, especially after her. Shit sucks.
 

Natels

Member
Oct 26, 2017
860
So I feel like venting a bit, i few months ago I did this;



So first and foremost what I did definitely wasn't a mistake at the time and the was the right thing to do. Now that said, I feel fucking awful about it these days. All the dating around since has felt really empty and hollow, I'm realizing how hard it is to find someone I'm genuinely into, especially after her. Shit sucks.

I have a friend who broke up with a girl because he was going to uni and he didn't feel like he cared about her enough. He felt it was the right thing to do at the time. Now he feels like an ass for doing it because he realized that he *really* likes her.

He tried to get her back but she has a new boyfriend. I'd say for you to do the same but I'm guessing it's also too late? Good luck anyway man
 

Introvert

Member
Nov 5, 2017
332
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?
 

Lulu

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
26,680
I have a friend who broke up with a girl because he was going to uni and he didn't feel like he cared about her enough. He felt it was the right thing to do at the time. Now he feels like an ass for doing it because he realized that he *really* likes her.

He tried to get her back but she has a new boyfriend. I'd say for you to do the same but I'm guessing it's also too late? Good luck anyway man
Indeed, she has and good for her. I did the right thing at the time because I'm sure I would have ended up cheating on her. It's just a frustrating life lesson to learn.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

How did that situation start?
"Hey wanna look at my tits?"
"Can I cop a feel?'
"Sure"
"Thanks!"

What details have you left out of this story? She's still probably just teasing you.

Edit: Bringing everyone up to speed this was the original situation https://www.resetera.com/threads/da...e-one-of-your-animes.666/page-56#post-4238367
 

gaiages

Member
Oct 25, 2017
488
Florida
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

:|

You didn't listen before why are you going to listen now lol
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,434
Chicago
Man, seeing someone with severe anxiety is really tough and draining.

You can have an amazing date but end up being pushed away by her and she is distant yet again. I don't know how it feels to be cheated on the way she was, but I just try my best to give her space and time. Even when I really want to see her. I get the sense and feeling she cares for me, but due to being hurt the way she was in a past relationship, she just refuses to fall deeply for someone so quickly and just has these walls guarding her. She lets them down sometimes, but once she realizes it she puts them back up.

I'm not gonna freak out, because I know that someone like her is capable of getting through it. And if we get that far, I know it will be worth it, she's an amazing person with a big heart. I try to be cautious with myself and expectation, but it's tough because sometimes I get anxiety too -__-.
 
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Beren

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,513
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?
She wants attention and you are giving it to her. That's all.
 

Moodz

Member
Oct 28, 2017
352
So... For those who followed my story with my Parisian girl who lives 800km from me and who doesn't want to put a label on us for now and wants to stay in a gray area.

She came to my place for a few days last weekend.
It started badly, we had a fight over some stupid bullshit. The next day she was very cold and distant and didn't really respond when I tried to initiate things with her, and she said one too many joke about not wanting me etc...
I said that if she was friendzoning me she should say so and that from now on I would stop coming to her. She didn't like that and cried... We talked, I obviously have a hard time understanding her...
The rest of her stay was perfect as usual.

She definitely has issues with expressing her feelings... At the end of her stay, I asked if she still had a good time despite the fights. It took her 3 days to answer that some things should have been avoided but it was still very nice .

We're still in that fucking gray area, but 2 days ago she called me for 2 hours and we talked a lot about her moving to my city or me moving to Paris etc...
I also said that I won't be able to be in that gray area for long.
She also noticed that we've been talking since the end of January and we met at the beginning of February, so all that "it's too early" talk isn't really relevant anymore.

I think she might be in love with me but is petrified by her fear of commitment in a new relationship.
And apparently I've not been clear about my feelings and intentions, she said that she thought I only liked her for the sex, and she was really surprised when I said that I would be ok to move to Paris for her, as soon as my job allows me, which is 2019 though...
 
Oct 30, 2017
8,967
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

That's high level blue balling right there. Did you try to go any further?
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,131
UK
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

How did that situation start?
"Hey wanna look at my tits?"
"Can I cop a feel?'
"Sure"
"Thanks!"

What details have you left out of this story? She's still probably just teasing you.

Edit: Bringing everyone up to speed this was the original situation https://www.resetera.com/threads/da...e-one-of-your-animes.666/page-56#post-4238367
Was that link to the wrong page? I don't see mention of Introvert there.
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,131
UK
might be because I'm on 100PPP. It's post #5563. Goes right there when I click the link.
Found it. Oh no.............so Introvert is one of those posters who never listens to advice and just keeps on going through messed up situations and love to let us know every single detail.
About myself: I'm a mid-30s-year-old dateless kissless virgin with social anxiety. I've never had a girlfriend or even been on a date. In fact, the times I've gotten approached by girls throughout my life, I'd been so nervous that I'd clam up and couldn't talk to them, or couldn't keep a conversation going long enough to maintain their interest.

About the girl I'm interested in
: She's a co-worker. 10 years younger than me. Single mom with a soon-to-be 4 year old son. Drives a car (I don't even have a license, but neither do most people in this city because public transportation is so extensive). Despite being 10 years older than her, she has vastly more life experience than I do, which is intimidating at times. But on the flip-side, because I've been to college, read a lot, have a more extensive vocabulary, and keep up with current events/politics, I can tell she's intimidated by me at times as well.

What I want: I want to take her out on a date for Valentine's Day. Despite not even asking her out yet, I'm 99% certain she'll say yes because of a large sign that she gave me in passing during a conversation.

======

Any advice? This will be my first date EVER, but it's also Valentine's Day, so she'd be expecting something more fancier/special than a normal date? But at the same time, from what I've read, you should keep first dates simple (coffee)?

Where should I take her? Are the movies out of the question? Seems like we wouldn't get to talk at the movies.

A co-worker/friend offered to help me tell her my feelings since I was too nervous to. I told them to just mention that I had a crush on her, but he went ham and asked her how she'd feel about me asking her out on a date. He told me her reply was that she'd have to bring her son along.

So in the event she does want to bring her son along, what are some places I can take her?


A dilemma: I should also mention there's a bit of a dilemma in the back of my mind on whether or not I should ask her out at all. We work together in the same work area, but the area is divided into two halves. Mostly guys work in my half and only women work in her half. She's really good friends with my supervisor, assistant supervisor, and the rest of the women in her half of the work area, so much so that they're definitely a "clique".

The thing is, I've become good friends with the dudes in my half of the work area, but they really hate how the other half has it easier. My supervisor is definitely biased. She let's the "girl squad" (as the guys call them) get away with murder, letting them take longer than usual breaks/lunches, while getting on the case of the men if they try to take even an extra minute for their breaks. My supervisor also assigns them a much easier workload which allows them to goof off and converse for most of the day. On top of that, they also have a really burning hatred of the girl I'm crushing on because according to them she "acts like she owns the place".

Recently, my supervisor has been being nice to me, but they're still giving the other people from my half of the work area a hard time. This started right after I told my crush my feelings and I think the two are connected. The only person who knows is the co-worker/friend who offered play cupid, but if I started dating her and word got out, I'm pretty sure they'll feel resentment towards me.

Should I risk it? Is there anyway to have my cake and eat it too?

From what I've gathered from asking about her son (she talks about her son a LOT), she still lives at home with her parents and she asks them to watch him sometimes. However, her parents like to go out too (her entire family seems really big on birthdays) and sometimes they can't watch him. One day she came to work late and completely ignored me for nearly the entire day. It wasn't until I was heading home that I overheard her talking to another co-worker/friend that her parents stayed out because of a birthday and she had to wait for them to come home to watch her son. She thought they might of done it on purpose for some reason and it was upsetting her.

She also told me that she leaves her son with his father on weekends. I didn't ask how the relationship ended, but from what I've heard, he has another kid from his current girlfriend, with another child on the way. While talking to her friend, she said she met the new girlfriend once when she had to drop off her son. When the friend asked her if she managed to keep things amicable, she said yes, but from the way she talked about the incident, it seems she still has some hard feelings? So I'm guessing he broke it off with her.



Without going into details (you can probably guess), it's a job with the federal government and also a union gig. If things went south for me, I wouldn't have any problem transferring to another area.



Wot!? Maybe I came off as an asshole. I think I should have explained more.

With regards to:

"girl squad" - While there are some shitty attitudes towards women in my work area (one co-worker confided in me in the locker room that they shouldn't be paid the same wage because they can't do any heavylifting), my supervisor (a woman) is DEFINITELY biased in her treatment of men vs. women. She NEVER hassles the women from the "girl squad" when they go on break for longer than usual. She even goes on break/lunch with them for way longer than the allotted time, but if any of the guys from my area goes over even a minute, she's paging them on the intercom to come back to the work floor. My supervisor will even go over to their work area to talk and goof around. She'll pull out her phone to show them something she wants to buy, like a jacket, and they'll all stop working, go over, and chat about it for a good 15 minutes.

reading and vocabulary - We have this "shtick", her and I, going where whenever I have to work in her area or she has to work in mine, we bust each other's chops. It's mostly how we manage to keep our conversations. She told me that she worked two jobs once and I told her from the work output I've seen from her, I doubted she was telling the truth. She knows that I went to college and have a degree in IT and like to read. She'll sometimes bring up the fact when I use a word she doesn't know the meaning of like "frugal" or "malcontent", and say something like "Well, excuse me. I don't have a fancy college degree.".

"Just leave her alone" and being a 30-something virgin - I tried to leave her alone after I felt she was sending me "mixed signals"; e.g. completely ignoring me some days, then not being able to stop talking to me other days. She always finds excuses to come to my area and talk to me. Usually I'm the first one in my area when I come in for about 30 - 45 minutes. When I first started this jobs, she would usually stroll in later along with the rest of her co-workers (girl squad + supervisor), but after a while, she started coming in early. She spends nearly all of this early time talking to me.

We both also work the graveyard shift. Sometimes we work 10 - 12 hours in a day. Once 8AM rolls around, a new shift is eligible to come in and join my half of the work area to help finish up the work. The shift that comes in is made up entirely of women (Why? Because my supervisor is in control of scheduling and puts only women on the second shift because it's way easier.). They don't always come as most prefer to start working at 1PM, but some of them will. I didn't notice it at first, but when they show up, she (my crush) will come over and try to convince me to go home which sounds reasonable because I have a long commute or she'll try to make small talk with me in front of the other girls. I've arrived at the conclusion that she does this because she's a bit jealous/defensive. Even during the holidays when my supervisor brought in extra help (mostly girls) from other outside areas to help with the workflow, she displayed this behavior.

I should also mention that initially I tried to avoid her because of her behavior.

During my second week on the job, she had to work in my area. There were three girls worked in my area at the time, but they have since quit. One of them was a new employee who started at the same time as me. She (my crush) was really nasty to this new girl when my supervisor asked her to show us how to do something. She also had "beefs" with the other two girls and threatened to "slap the shit" out of one of them. I assumed maybe she had mental issues and decided to just keep away from her.

During my second month on the job, two of the employees from my area were going to be out at the same time for nearly two weeks. These two employees were the ones who got most of the work done/coordinated. So my supervisor put her in my area until they came back to work. For nearly an entire week, we didn't say much to each other while working unless it was work related (keep in mind, my SA and shyness).

So eventually Sunday comes. On Sundays, we work in differently building. We start working alone without talking as usual and after two hours pass, she tells me she's bored and starts asking me all of these very personal questions. Somehow the topic of girlfriends and sex comes up. I'm not ashamed of my virginity, so I told her I've never had a girlfriend and I was still a virgin. She seemed delighted and shocked at the same time. When she asked why, I told her that it's too risky for a man to be "involved with women in this age of incurable STDs and crushing child support payments" when the relationship eventually fizzled out. This is usually something that I do to cover up my SA; I pretend to be a MGTOW and how I don't want to get involved with women because of all the potential "trouble" such relations can bring to a man's life.

She asked wouldn't I like it if I had someone who would let me lay my head in their lap while they stroked my hair. I lied and told her such things don't interest me.

I don't remember the rest of the conversation because this happened many months ago, but she asked me if I ever kissed a girl, and I remember telling her that I don't even hug people in my immediate family because it felt awkward (which is true, but I still hug aunts/cousins/etc. because they've come to expect it from when I was younger and didn't have SA). She also asked if a woman has ever touched my penis before. I stammered and tried to mentioned something about when my mother/aunt/sisters bathed me when I was younger, but she cut me off. After that, what followed could only be described as sexual harassment.

She hugged me tightly enough from behind that I could feel her breasts against my back and she whispered in my ear "doesn't this feel nice?". Now, she's larger (not fat, tall/lanky) than me and has a few inches on me in height, while I'm a somewhat short/scrawny dude. I didn't do anything but freeze up and stop, not that I'd been able to get away if tried given our size differences. After she let me go, she immediately grabbed my arms, and wrapped them around her so that I was hugging her from behind. She then started "grinding"/"twerking" (we had the radio on) on me. I froze up again, but felt myself getting an erection and I think she felt it too. She stopped, let me go, and said slowly "It's OK, <insert my name here>..., It's OK, <insert my name here>...", while I stood there frozen just staring at the floor, as if she might of realized what she'd done, then said "I'm just messing with you." then she went on her lunch break.

That's how this whole thing got started. It's been nearly 6 months since that incident and she hasn't tried to pull anything like that again. I didn't develop a crush on her from that incident, but from talking with her over the months and learning more about her and the things we had in common. I didn't even find her physically/aesthetically attractive when we first met, but the attraction eventually developed after interacting with her on a near-daily basis. My SA has reduced quite a bit over that time with her. Before I couldn't maintain eye contact with her for too long, but as time progressed, I became better at it. That's when I started noticing that when we talk, she'll smile at something I'd say, start blushing, and break eye contact first to look away. I would say that's around the time I started having feelings for her and considered her to be beautiful.
 

shenden

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,298
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

Is there somekind of backstory from where your hands suddenly ended up on her breasts?

I've met my share of extrovert women, but they don't just show the titties nomatter how attention craving they might be.
 

LightEntite

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,079
Hey guys. I don't know if you remember me from my "novels" (check my post history). That single mom I asked out on Valentine's Day, the one who said she'd let me know, but never got back to me? Last night, we were the only people to show up for work. Long story short, at the end of the night, she showed me her breasts and let me fondle them. It's weird because I never asked her out again (for my ego's sake, I didn't want to seem like a beggar), but then this happens out of the blue.

Any ideas what might be up with this girl?

i mean, i dunno

generally, when a girl lets me play with her nipples, she's looking forward to us both eventually doing things naked together

she could have just needed a boob exam, whoooooooo knows

it was probably just nothing, i mean they're just boobs. You should probably just ignore her from now on, she was clearly just trolling you into thinking she wanted you to touch her private parts.

EDIT:

She asked wouldn't I like it if I had someone who would let me lay my head in their lap while they stroked my hair. I lied and told her such things don't interest me.

I don't remember the rest of the conversation because this happened many months ago, but she asked me if I ever kissed a girl, and I remember telling her that I don't even hug people in my immediate family because it felt awkward (which is true, but I still hug aunts/cousins/etc. because they've come to expect it from when I was younger and didn't have SA). She also asked if a woman has ever touched my penis before. I stammered and tried to mentioned something about when my mother/aunt/sisters bathed me when I was younger, but she cut me off. After that, what followed could only be described as sexual harassment.

She hugged me tightly enough from behind that I could feel her breasts against my back and she whispered in my ear "doesn't this feel nice?". Now, she's larger (not fat, tall/lanky) than me and has a few inches on me in height, while I'm a somewhat short/scrawny dude. I didn't do anything but freeze up and stop, not that I'd been able to get away if tried given our size differences. After she let me go, she immediately grabbed my arms, and wrapped them around her so that I was hugging her from behind. She then started "grinding"/"twerking" (we had the radio on) on me. I froze up again, but felt myself getting an erection and I think she felt it too. She stopped, let me go, and said slowly "It's OK, <insert my name here>..., It's OK, <insert my name here>...", while I stood there frozen just staring at the floor, as if she might of realized what she'd done, then said "I'm just messing with you." then she went on her lunch break.

That's how this whole thing got started. It's been nearly 6 months since that incident and she hasn't tried to pull anything like that again. I didn't develop a crush on her from that incident, but from talking with her over the months and learning more about her and the things we had in common. I didn't even find her physically/aesthetically attractive when we first met, but the attraction eventually developed after interacting with her on a near-daily basis. My SA has reduced quite a bit over that time with her. Before I couldn't maintain eye contact with her for too long, but as time progressed, I became better at it. That's when I started noticing that when we talk, she'll smile at something I'd say, start blushing, and break eye contact first to look away. I would say that's around the time I started having feelings for her and considered her to be beautiful.

are you fuckin kidding me bro

she's clearly getting off on your innocence. Between grinding a boner out of you and letting you touch her tits, i'd say she probably finds the concept of so easily blowing your mind extremely appealing.

this girl will like, 95% take your virginity from you in a heartbeat, all you probably have to do is fucking ask
 
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Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,131
UK
Tbh Introvert I would report that lady to HR for sexual harassment and assault. She isn't wanting to have sex with you.
She's taking advantage of you and grooming you. She's getting off on the power imbalance. Why have you not done this yet? Please tell me it's not because you are so desperate to get some.
 
Oct 25, 2017
21,442
Sweden
Introvert , you have to be assertive

either make a move and fucking go for it

or cut your contact with her to be strictly professional, looking to move to another job position ASAP

this in-between waffling is only wasting your time
 

Gotdatmoney

Member
Oct 28, 2017
14,487
I always say don't shit where you eat. But if you are going to, get more out of it than feeling some tits. Smh.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,687
DFW
Oh Introvert. What is you doing.

Seriously, everyone here is giving you the same advice as last time. Please, please, please listen this time.