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DrM

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Hey metal-era :) Question: what is, in your opinion, the best metal band to hear during gym or other sports? Interested in your answers, no other genre pushes me to the limits like metal.
Judas Priest - Painkiller is the god tier album for cardio exercise, but I usually use a custom made Priest setlist for longer exercise. You cannot miss with Kreator / Sodom / Annihilator / Amon Amarth either. Or with bands that you like :)
 

Bitanator

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I know they don't sound alike, but the way both albums are structured i was felt they were follow'ups. The variety of songs composition. The slower pace of of both albums until the climatic ending. One of them just E.N.D. s!
I was 10 years old at the time, no zines, no intenet, people just dubbed the tapes, i had no idea what an Overkill or a Mortal Sin was :P

And i stand by my previous statement, i truly feel the other albums of Overkill don't hold up at all.

Thanks for the response, I just don't hear it composition or structure wise in the albums at all, one is very raw drawing more from early 80s, and the other is a perfectly constructed album that is following the trend of more complex progressive and technical songs. I think of the first Mortal Sin more in line with Early Slayer and teutonic, speed metal very raw early metallica than what Years of Decay was doing.

And I cannot be your friend if you do not rock with Taking Over, that is a perfect early style thrash album that was unfortunately released two years too late.

Hell, Feel the Fire still stands head to head with Show no Mercy and Kill em All

This is still a crazy good as it was back then
 

Morrigan

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Exodus has Bonded By Blood which is quite possibly the greatest thrash album of all time. But the rest of their catalogue is... not very good.

Overkill is a lot more consistent. Horrorscope, The Years of Decay, Feel the Fire, Ironbound, The Electric Age, Taking over... it's all good. Well, honestly, their earlier albums up until Horrorscope are all good. Then they have this shitty mid-period where they did shitty groove bro metal and that can be safely ignored. Then they came back to thrash with a vengeance with Ironbound, and have kinda just recycled that sound ever since but at least it's still pretty good, so... cool, I guess! :)

Edit: ah yeah, ^ the holy trinity of early thrash, still tinged with that NWOBHM sound; Feel the Fire, Kill 'em All, and Show No Mercy. Love those albums, definitely my favourites by Metallica and Slayer, and definitely up there for Overkill too.
 

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Can we talk about Metallica's No Remorse? That song is fucking awesome and might just be my favorite Metallica song.
 

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Overkill brought that NY attitude more than Anthrax ever had, Bobby was able to marry that punk scene with the aggressive thrash style while still being very NWOBHM focused early on with his melodies. Then add signature DD Verni Bass slapping, Overkill is tough to beat back then.

Can we talk about Metallica's No Remorse? That song is fucking awesome and might just be my favorite Metallica song.

Up there next to Disposable Heroes & Creeping Death
 

Hell Shinobi

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Exodus has Bonded By Blood which is quite possibly the greatest thrash album of all time. But the rest of their catalogue is... not very good.

Overkill is a lot more consistent. Horrorscope, The Years of Decay, Feel the Fire, Ironbound, The Electric Age, Taking over... it's all good. Well, honestly, their earlier albums up until Horrorscope are all good. Then they have this shitty mid-period where they did shitty groove bro metal and that can be safely ignored. Then they came back to thrash with a vengeance with Ironbound, and have kinda just recycled that sound ever since but at least it's still pretty good, so... cool, I guess! :)

Edit: ah yeah, ^ the holy trinity of early thrash, still tinged with that NWOBHM sound; Feel the Fire, Kill 'em All, and Show No Mercy. Love those albums, definitely my favourites by Metallica and Slayer, and definitely up there for Overkill too.

Ok i have to unpack this too :) The holy trinity you say? Do you know what they all have in common? All those albums were surpassed by their follow up's. There, i have said it.
Taking Over is better than Feel the Fire.
Ride the Lightning is better than Kill' em All.
Hell Awaits sounds like it was recorded by a different band all together.

Horrorscope, The Years of Decay, Feel the Fire, Ironbound, The Electric Age, Taking Over... hmmmmm you see..... how can i say this The years of decay don't belong here.
The rest is mid-tier thrash, TYoD is Godlike.

The person who introduced me to Metal, particuraly Thrash Metal, doesn't talk to me because of my views :P
 
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Goddamn I forgot how good Kill em All is. Tossed it on since were talking about it and holy shit do I miss this. I honestly can't say I have a favorite Metallica album even though I will list Puppets. Every time I hear one it becomes my favorite.
 

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Goddamn I forgot how good Kill em All is. Tossed it on since were talking about it and holy shit do I miss this. I honestly can't say I have a favorite Metallica album even though I will list Puppets. Every time I hear one it becomes my favorite.

Can't do the same with Overkill mmmuuuuuahahahahaha :P The Years fo Decay just stands above the rest...
 

DrM

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Did we ever mentioned this gem in this thread?
Master's Hammer - Jama Pekel

From 1991 album Ritual, probably one of the influential albums for whole metal scene in Eastern Europe. And another interesting tidbit - Franta Štrom is a type/font designer and you maybe even used font created by his company.

For Ghost fans, who do not check the Reddit, there are two bootleg videos of two new songs, Faith and Dance Macabre on Youtube.
 

Brian_FETO

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fix the Justice mix cowards

even if you have to do a bonus disc of a rerelease with Trujillo playing it over the original recording for a fun "what if"

anything is better than youtube jabronies making fake ones of their own
 

Hell Shinobi

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I cannot disagree with you here but can knock you for saying the other albums are not worth listening to, you are not allowed near my stoop with them words :)

What? Of course they are worth listening! Let me explain. I've grown up listeing to Thrash Metal, i throughly respect it, i still listen to my favourites when i can. But for the past 24 years i just listen to Black Metal and some Death Metal, it's what resonates with me the most.

But max respect for Thrash Metal, so i always say to anyone "you should absolutely listen to X band discography till Z year", for example (another hot take or not) "You should listen to Slayer's discography till 1990 after that meeehhhhh up to you." BUT will never say my favourite album.
That's up for everyone to discover or sometimes rediscover with listenings.

When i was younger my favourite Slayer record was Reign in Blood, absolute headbanger, still play it, have several copies, because of scratches and shit, but with age i come to appreciate the finer details of Seasons in the Abyss.

I just really think Years of Decay outshines the other Overkill records as they don't hold up as other bands classics. I just can't listen the other ones from start to finish again but can play TYoD on repeat :)

But the Razor album on your Avatar holds well :D
 

Morrigan

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If we're talking Melechesh then I'd add Enkar from Al-Namrood. Not quite the same but a similar Middle Eastern sound. I need to buy this but I've been too lazy to track a copy down.

http://shaytanproductions.bandcamp.com/album/enkar

Edit: Heh...nevermind. There were some copies on Bandcamp so I picked one up.
Just been listening to this one and I'm sadly not feeling it. The music is solid, but the vocals are... not good. Kind of ruins it a bit for me. :( Too bad, I'd be totally down for another Melechesh-like.
 
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Just been listening to this one and I'm sadly not feeling it. The music is solid, but the vocals are... not good. Kind of ruins it a bit for me. :( Too bad, I'd be totally down for another Melechesh-like.

The vocals are definitely different. It's like dude from System of a Down went into a black metal metal band. I love the chaos of it all though. Somehow it all fits nicely for me.
 

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What? Of course they are worth listening! Let me explain. I've grown up listeing to Thrash Metal, i throughly respect it, i still listen to my favourites when i can. But for the past 24 years i just listen to Black Metal and some Death Metal, it's what resonates with me the most.

But max respect for Thrash Metal, so i always say to anyone "you should absolutely listen to X band discography till Z year", for example (another hot take or not) "You should listen to Slayer's discography till 1990 after that meeehhhhh up to you." BUT will never say my favourite album.
That's up for everyone to discover or sometimes rediscover with listenings.

When i was younger my favourite Slayer record was Reign in Blood, absolute headbanger, still play it, have several copies, because of scratches and shit, but with age i come to appreciate the finer details of Seasons in the Abyss.

I just really think Years of Decay outshines the other Overkill records as they don't hold up as other bands classics. I just can't listen the other ones from start to finish again but can play TYoD on repeat :)

But the Razor album on your Avatar holds well :D

I know we are just messing with you.

And that Razor album better up well

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Inkvoterad

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Damn good album, havent checked their other stuff. Apparently this counts in as "blackened thrash" though ive just called it a black metal album, do with that what you will.

 

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Fuck System Of a Down's Toxicity. The message behind it is absolute conspiracy anti Big Pharma bullshit.
 

Inkvoterad

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It is literally impossible for me to dislike soad bc they made WAR? and its probably in my top 10 songs ever lul

FREEDOM WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE THROUGH DEATH

PRAISE THE LORD, PASS THE AMMUNITION

GOD WANTS YOU TO GO TO WAR

*chuggvhuggchuggchugg*
 

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I don't do gym stuff, but when I go for a run, nothing gets me going during those sprint intervals like some Melechesh or Desaster.[/QUOTE]
Sounds great, I'll give them a shot! :)
 

Inkvoterad

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I posted their best album a page or two back.

If you enjoy blackened thrash metal I can post some more band recs for you

Checking the Karisma album now, its really good. Ive been listening to danse du sabbat from evoke for months but checked the rest of the album properly this week.

Also sure! Never thought id ser the day where i willfully would listen to "thrash". Though most of my exposure on the genre come from the popular western stuff.
 

Bitanator

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Checking the Karisma album now, its really good. Ive been listening to danse du sabbat from evoke for months but checked the rest of the album properly this week.

Also sure! Never thought id ser the day where i willfully would listen to "thrash". Though most of my exposure on the genre come from the popular western stuff.

Japanese thrash usually has so much character, one of my all time favorite bands is Gargoyle, brilliant progressive thrash band from Japan, some of the best musicianship and creativity you will ever find in the genre.

Of course you have more western sounding Japanese thrashers like Lawshed and Outrage, both worth a look too.

Japan has a rich blackend thrash/speed metal scene, it is fun to dig into.

Give me a moment to offer some bands, I am assuming you at least know some of the more well known black/thrash bands like Desaster?
 

Inkvoterad

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Japanese thrash usually has so much character, one of my all time favorite bands is Gargoyle, brilliant progressive thrash band from Japan, some of the best musicianship and creativity you will ever find in the genre.

Of course you have more western sounding Japanese thrashers like Lawshed and Outrage, both worth a look too.

Japan has a rich blackend thrash/speed metal scene, it is fun to dig into.

Give me a moment to offer some bands, I am assuming you at least know some of the more well known black/thrash bands like Desaster?

Nope. Its a completely new subgenre for me to explore!
 

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You guys gave me a ton of stuff to work with, so its going to take me a bit to work through, but ill be sure to make a list of everything i liked
 

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For those discovering the gloriousness (shut up spellchecker that's totally a word) of epic black/thrash, here are some samples from my favourite examples of the genre (tried to limit myself to one song per album):

Desaster - Hellfire's Dominion, Nekropolis Karthago, Damnatio Ad Bestias
Deströyer 666 - I Am the Wargod, Unchain the Wolves, Shadow
Absu - Amy, Stone of Destiny, Earth Ripper
Melechesh - Rebirth of the Nemesis, Grand Gathas of Baal Sin, Tempest Temper Enlil Enraged

You guys gave me a ton of stuff to work with, so its going to take me a bit to work through, but ill be sure to make a list of everything i liked
Cheers! Sorry for the spammy list haha. I got carried away.
 

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So much wrong with this list of top 50 thrash albums, he did not even try.

http://loudwire.com/top-thrash-metal-albums-all-time/#photogallery-1=39

I'll give him props for at least placing Sabbat(UK) and Holy Terror on the list but damn a top 20 full of the same bands screams lazy.

He placed a few newer bands on the list too, I just do not get the absurd hype with Power Trip. Vektor is the only thrash band from the past 20 years I would include in one of these lists, and he put the band Bonded by Blood - Feed the Beast on a list of top 50 thrash all time, I did not rank that album in my top 50 for 2008 when it released.
 
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So much wrong with this list of top 50 thrash albums, he did not even try.

http://loudwire.com/top-thrash-metal-albums-all-time/#photogallery-1=39

I'll give him props for at least placing Sabbat(UK) and Holy Terror on the list but damn a top 20 full of the same bands screams lazy.

He placed a few newer bands on the list too, I just do not get the absurd hype with Power Trip. Vektor is the only thrash band from the past 20 years I would include in one of these lists, and he put the band Bonded by Blood - Feed the Beast on a list of top 50 thrash all time, I did not rank that album in my top 50 for 2008 when it released.
Personal opinion but, Loudwire is kinda, not good.
 

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So much wrong with this list of top 50 thrash albums, he did not even try.

http://loudwire.com/top-thrash-metal-albums-all-time/#photogallery-1=39

I'll give him props for at least placing Sabbat(UK) and Holy Terror on the list but damn a top 20 full of the same bands screams lazy.

He placed a few newer bands on the list too, I just do not get the absurd hype with Power Trip. Vektor is the only thrash band from the past 20 years I would include in one of these lists, and he put the band Bonded by Blood - Feed the Beast on a list of top 50 thrash all time, I did not rank that album in my top 50 for 2008 when it released.

Power Trip are one of those band where, when you get to see them live, you understand the hype. Their sound is rock solid, they create loads of energy, and a bit like Metallica they have a fantastic rhythm guitarist.

I'm with you on Vektor though, they don't get the interest they deserve. Another incredibly tight live band as well, their lead guitarist can pull off their solos to perfection on stage.
 

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Power Trip are one of those band where, when you get to see them live, you understand the hype. Their sound is rock solid, they create loads of energy, and a bit like Metallica they have a fantastic rhythm guitarist.

I'm with you on Vektor though, they don't get the interest they deserve. Another incredibly tight live band as well, their lead guitarist can pull off their solos to perfection on stage.

I agree with Power Trip live, I love them but their full length are really lacking consistency and depth. Their brand of chugging hook happy thrash is fun but the insane hype and attention when there are really amazing talented thrash bands out I just cannot understand. I don't mind it too much, I love seeing thrash become so widespread with these guys, much happier it is them instead of what Havok has become.

Vektor is only David now, everyone else left, which is sad because Erik Nelson is supremely talented, and such a great person to hang with.
 

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I agree with Power Trip live, I love them but their full length are really lacking consistency and depth. Their brand of chugging hook happy thrash is fun but the insane hype and attention when there are really amazing talented thrash bands out I just cannot understand. I don't mind it too much, I love seeing thrash become so widespread with these guys, much happier it is them instead of what Havok has become.

Vektor is only David now, everyone else left, which is sad because Erik Nelson is supremely talented, and such a great person to hang with.

They could do with some variety on their albums, that's for sure. Personally, I haven't heard a good new thrash band in a while (not since Evile) so perhaps it's about timing. Do you have any other thrash recommendations outside of the 80s/90s bands?

Vektor - I'm hoping they were a one-man-band, so still looking forward to their next album despite the lineup change. Having said that, I saw The Faceless (another one-man-band) a while back and they were terrible live. I hope Vektor don't suffer the same fate!

Off topic, if anyone is interested in tech-death, I'd urge you to give Slugdge a listen. I'd say they're fairly unique, and the theme is pretty fun as well.

 

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Is it odd to say I like the consistency Power Trip LPs have? I know they're not all that explorative, but they do what they do well and I'd rather have an LP of solid songs than a few great ones and a few trash ones. That and I feel like I can always listen to Power Trip, wheras I have to be in a certain state of mind to enjoy Vektor, but I guess i feel that way about a lot of the more technical metal stuff.
 

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They could do with some variety on their albums, that's for sure. Personally, I haven't heard a good new thrash band in a while (not since Evile) so perhaps it's about timing. Do you have any other thrash recommendations outside of the 80s/90s bands?

Vektor - I'm hoping they were a one-man-band, so still looking forward to their next album despite the lineup change. Having said that, I saw The Faceless (another one-man-band) a while back and they were terrible live. I hope Vektor don't suffer the same fate!

Off topic, if anyone is interested in tech-death, I'd urge you to give Slugdge a listen. I'd say they're fairly unique, and the theme is pretty fun as well.



I think Vektor will go with session musicians live, I love David so whatever happens I'll support it.

Oh I create a list every year of the top thrash albums of the year, I have not posted mine for 2017 as it took way too long to get my final batch of December releases and I have been so busy to compile and then I lost motivation as I'm knee deep in 2018 cds already. In a given year I'll listen to 250+ new thrash releases of the current year and make a top 60-100 list of my favorites.

I'm not making promises but I'd like to get my 2017 list out before my birthday on the 26th haha if any of you would be interested in that I might get the motivation to finish it.

I can share the past couple years lists but I'd have to go snag them later for you.

Is it odd to say I like the consistency Power Trip LPs have? I know they're not all that explorative, but they do what they do well and I'd rather have an LP of solid songs than a few great ones and a few trash ones. That and I feel like I can always listen to Power Trip, wheras I have to be in a certain state of mind to enjoy Vektor, but I guess i feel that way about a lot of the more technical metal stuff.

Power Trip wins for making the perfect length for albums of their kind of thrash, even song lengths are my desired length, I just find song to song, they are rather mediocre and inconsistent, live is where they shine, but they make easily digestible chugging, headbanging thrash so I can see why everyone can love them.