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Haunted

Banned
Nov 3, 2017
2,737
Fairly cheap, but not enough incentive.

Maybe that'll change with an online game I want to play, better VC options or more modern free games.
 

Stairouais

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Oct 25, 2017
2,796
France
Honestly, my biggest hope for this service is that since the Switch is global, we could end up seeing some older NES games that never left Japan get an English version. And if SNES games end up on the service, too, then some of those as well.

This will never happen in a million years. You'll get Urban Champion, like everyone else. Not Famicom Tantei Club.
 

Tygre

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,126
Chesire, UK
This is garbage.

I'm not at all surprised that it's garbage, but it's still garbage.

I know Steam spoils me, I know, but it's still almost insulting the degree to which other services fail to compete. Of course the problem is that there is no competition, every console is a closed, monopolistic box.

Closed, monopolistic ecosystems always lead to the consumer getting screwed.
 

Raijinto

self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
10,091
UK Pricing

Membership Options

Pricing


Individual Membership
1 month
(30 days)

£3.49
€3.99
3 months
(90 days)

£6.99
€7.99
12 months
(365 days)

£17.99
€19.99

Family Membership
12 months
(365 days)

£31.49
€ 34.99
If you create a Family Group, up to eight Nintendo Accounts can use the Nintendo Switch Online membership service under one Family Membership!

All prices inclusive of applicable VAT.

Thanks for posting this for clarification.

I'll probably just stay subscribed for the full year at £18.
 

Deleted member 426

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,273
So I have a question. A question that is completely separate to the cloud saves issue but is in response to many comments in this thread.

Do people not like NES games any more? Are they not still classics? Why is there not more excitement when there was loads for the NES Classic?
 
Oct 30, 2017
386
Or ... you just let him play with your account. If you're worried about saves ... hey you can then back them up at least. Or maybe just tell him to not mess with saves from other games.



Steam is the main focus for Valve, not really games. Nintendo (and the others for that) have to look at hardware and software in addition to the online service.


He likes collecting the badges on arms and playing with me so that wouldn't really work.
It's cheap enough, but still isn't exactly great.
 

Majukun

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,542
disappointing but expected..nintendo will never be generous and will never nail online services, those 2 statements are pretty much absolute truths at this point.
 

.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,258
But having voice chat locked away is a statement of intent: "You don't need voice chat to play this game." And that means games will not be designed around it and will, hopefully, have decent enough communication options to coordinate with strangers without just defaulting to voice chat as the only option.

Muting does not give me what I want. It just locks me out of communications. Games being designed to function without voice chat gives me what I want. Like Splatoon getting away with having just three call outs. "That was great!" "Let's attack together!" and "Danger! Enemy!"

There are very few console multiplayer shooters that are specifically designed around voice chat, and I doubt that CS:GO or Destiny 2 will be coming to switch.
 

New Donker

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,359
I'm confused. Nintendo flat out says this service will have NES games added for free when they announced this service, and there's multiple posts complaining it's not GameCube games.

Who ever said GameCube games?
 

Deleted member 21693

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Oct 28, 2017
4,139
SNES Super Mario Kart online would be awesome! please do that nintendo!!!!
That would be ace!
But having voice chat locked away is a statement of intent: "You don't need voice chat to play this game." And that means games will not be designed around it and will, hopefully, have decent enough communication options to coordinate with strangers without just defaulting to voice chat as the only option.

Muting does not give me what I want. It just locks me out of communications. Games being designed to function without voice chat gives me what I want. Like Splatoon getting away with having just three call outs. "That was great!" "Let's attack together!" and "Danger! Enemy!"
That's cool and Splatoon is pretty genius when it comes to non-verbal communication.

But still: Offering this option isn't hard.
Nintendo may want to restrict voice chat to keep kids save. I respect that.
And yet offering the option isn't hard. There are kid accounts for a reason. Restrict all this online stuff on those accounts.
 

Superbadr

Banned
Nov 5, 2017
222
No thanks, i'm not paying for this, i never cared about cloud saves, but no built in chat system with friends? VOCAL THROUGH MY PHONE? Hell no, guess i'll play smash and pokemon locally.
 

Serebii

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Oct 24, 2017
13,128
I do think too many people are sleeping on the classic games element.

Included in the subscription we have these classic games, with added online features, all for no extra cost, with more to be added regularly including SNES and probably more consoles.

That's huge and would have been worth the price alone in my view. It's pretty much what we've wanted for a long time, just wish it didn't have the dripfeed, but I get why.
 

Hate

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,730
But having voice chat locked away is a statement of intent: "You don't need voice chat to play this game." And that means games will not be designed around it and will, hopefully, have decent enough communication options to coordinate with strangers without just defaulting to voice chat as the only option.

Muting does not give me what I want. It just locks me out of communications. Games being designed to function without voice chat gives me what I want. Like Splatoon getting away with having just three call outs. "That was great!" "Let's attack together!" and "Danger! Enemy!"
That has never been a problem with any other mp games. You have people going rank one on different games without talking at all.

Locking voice chat only satisfies you while having voice chat with mute function can satisfy a lot more people.
 

Firemind

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,547
So I have a question. A question that is completely separate to the cloud saves issue but is in response to many comments in this thread.

Do people not like NES games any more? Are they not still classics? Why is there not more excitement when there was loads for the NES Classic?
Look at the games. There are better multiplayer games for the NES. Online co-op Contra, Battletoads, River City Ransom, Double Dragon, Life Force, TMNT would be better than fucking Ice Climbers. (I know there are fans of Ice Climbers. Shut up.)
 

Conor419

Banned
Nov 26, 2017
2,320
London
But having voice chat locked away is a statement of intent: "You don't need voice chat to play this game." And that means games will not be designed around it and will, hopefully, have decent enough communication options to coordinate with strangers without just defaulting to voice chat as the only option.

Muting does not give me what I want. It just locks me out of communications. Games being designed to function without voice chat gives me what I want. Like Splatoon getting away with having just three call outs. "That was great!" "Let's attack together!" and "Danger! Enemy!"

Teamwork-based games being designed without communication in mind are fundamentally flawed. If you do not like voice chat, then online gaming isn't for you. Don't make millions of people suffer because of it.
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,632
so just to be clear, when this launches, you cant play online without a sub anymore, for example in Mario Kart correct? Like PS+?
 
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Vampirolol

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Dec 13, 2017
5,825
I do think too many people are sleeping on the classic games element.

Included in the subscription we have these classic games, with added online features, all for no extra cost, with more to be added regularly including SNES and probably more consoles.

That's huge and would have been worth the price alone in my view. It's pretty much what we've wanted for a long time, just wish it didn't have the dripfeed, but I get why.
I don't trust Nintendo regarding this, knowing how they handled VC in the last years. I feel like they will add some NES games and then just forget about it.
 

Amnixia

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Jan 25, 2018
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I do think too many people are sleeping on the classic games element.

Included in the subscription we have these classic games, with added online features, all for no extra cost, with more to be added regularly including SNES and probably more consoles.

That's huge and would have been worth the price alone in my view. It's pretty much what we've wanted for a long time, just wish it didn't have the dripfeed, but I get why.

Did they confirm SNES? I know they spoke of it in the past, but the new info clearly talks about NES titles.
 

xyla

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,387
Germany
You can already do that, can't you? You just sign in, or...? You don't get your save files brought along though, so i guess that will be the improvement. Or do they have some weird restrictions on using the same account on more than one Switch today? I haven't tried it.

Not really that easy, no. ATM an account can only be used on one console at a time. Not sure if I remember correctly, but you have to delete the account from one switch to be able to enable it on another. Might be wrong here though.

That's popped up to me too. Unless they mean that you need to transfer your account to the other Switch.

Could also mean that, but the way it's put, I have hope that they streamlined that process a little.
 

raketenrolf

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,216
Germany
I just want to play SNES, Genesis, TG-16 and more old stuff. All they give away is those NES games that they throw around all the time. They pull this shit every gen.
 

Superbadr

Banned
Nov 5, 2017
222
I do think too many people are sleeping on the classic games element.

Included in the subscription we have these classic games, with added online features, all for no extra cost, with more to be added regularly including SNES and probably more consoles.

That's huge and would have been worth the price alone in my view. It's pretty much what we've wanted for a long time, just wish it didn't have the dripfeed, but I get why.
NES games don't have value in 2018, especially since emulation is widespread.
 

Serebii

Serebii.net Webmaster
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
13,128
Look at the games. There are better multiplayer games for the NES. Online co-op Contra, Battletoads, River City Ransom Double Dragon, Life Force, TMNT would be better than fucking Ice Climbers. (I know there are fans of Ice Climbers. Shut up.)
There's a mountain of licensing issues there. I imagine they'd be able to get some, but don't forget that licensing is a thing. Just because they existed on the NES doesn't mean Nintendo can put them on the service outright.
I don't trust Nintendo regarding this, knowing how they handled VC in the last years. I feel like they will add some NES games and then just forget about it.
They've never just "forgotten about it"
 

shinken

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,917
Only 20€ for one account with only a bunch of roms throw in...

And I'm pretty sure you can use backups with PS4, cloud saves is the only way with Switch and costs money.
Wait. How many people can play online on one console with ONE paid PSN subscription? Sony added some kind of 7 Family members thingy too since firmware 5.0.0.
But I don't know if that includes online play or just managerial stuff.
Nintendo is 35 for up to 7 people. I do agree that Nintendo should have an backup save app on the console itself.
 

Vinci

Member
Oct 29, 2017
669
So... I feel like I'm being overtly political on this topic, but I have to say I find anyone questioning the value of this to be really stretching... It's 40 cents a week. You get automated game save back-ups, 20 online-enabled games that a VC release would have cost you probably $2 at minimum, and (hopefully) an improved online performance. I mean, I'm not exactly cheering from the stands, but that all seems pretty reasonable.

Game chat, yes. Bitching about that is perfectly reasonable, but that's almost a separate topic from this service given the methodology isn't changing.
 

Tirisfal

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
939
London
I couldn't give a toss about NES games tbh. SNES or higher and I'd be interested. So right now if I want to continue playing Splatoon 2 I'd have to give extra money for cloud saves only.
 

Protome

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,702
Seems about what I expected. And this thread is also about what I expected no matter what Nintendo revealed.

I, for one, am glad they're keeping voice chat locked away to the phone. I've never been happy with voice chat on consoles and it's a big factor in why I don't play online on them. So Nintendo promising me that I'll never have to listen to anyone screaming, eating, listening to loud music or being called all the slurs in the dictionary sounds great to me. Finally a console I can play online on.

Honestly, my biggest hope for this service is that since the Switch is global, we could end up seeing some older NES games that never left Japan get an English version. And if SNES games end up on the service, too, then some of those as well.

So, yeah, I'm in. Looks exactly like what I was expecting, except with more NES games.
This doesn't actually fix any of your issues with voice chat, muting people does however. Nintendo isn't promising any of that, they're just promising if you ever did want to talk to your friends it'd be a pain in the ass.
 

tyfon

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,680
Norway
With this family plan, is there any info on if the members of the family can share digital games?
Or do I have to keep being physical only to share games with my wife and daughter?
 

Deleted member 426

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
7,273
Look at the games. There are better multiplayer games for the NES. Online co-op Contra, Battletoads, River City Ransom, Double Dragon, Life Force, TMNT would be better than fucking Ice Climbers. (I know there are fans of Ice Climbers. Shut up.)
Okay but The Legend of Zelda, SMB1+3. We can only imagine that Metroid will get in there too at some point. 2/3 of a NES Classic for £18 (a year) seems like a pretty sweet deal, especially as they'll add more games.
 

Lucifonz

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Oct 27, 2017
2,133
United Kingdom
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McNum

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,195
Denmark
This doesn't actually fix any of your issues with voice chat, muting people does however. Nintendo isn't promising any of that, they're just promising if you ever did want to talk to your friends it'd be a pain in the ass.
My issue with voice chat is that it's the default. Without it being the default, games will have to be designed around that. And thus make voice chat unnecessary.

Muting does not solve that. Games being designed without voice chat in mind at all does.
 

shinken

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Oct 27, 2017
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With this family plan, is there any info on if the members of the family can share digital games?
Or do I have to keep being physical only to share games with my wife and daughter?
You could already share games between accounts since day one. It works different than the PS3/4. You select a game and it asks you who wants to play. You can then select your account, your wife's account or your daughter's account.
With a Sony console you have to logout of said account and log into the other account and select the game you want to play.
 

Rush_Khan

Member
Oct 26, 2017
860
Couldn't care less about online or NES classics. I NEED those cloud saves.

Finally, I can take my Switch outside.
 

Deleted member 2791

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Oct 25, 2017
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I do think too many people are sleeping on the classic games element.

Included in the subscription we have these classic games, with added online features, all for no extra cost, with more to be added regularly including SNES and probably more consoles.

That's huge and would have been worth the price alone in my view. It's pretty much what we've wanted for a long time, just wish it didn't have the dripfeed, but I get why.

The cost is 20€/year, I don't see how you can extract the no extra cost part.
 

tyfon

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,680
Norway
You could already share games between accounts since day one. It works different than the PS3/4. You select a game and it asks you who wants to play. You can then select your account, your wife's account or your daughter's account.
With a Sony console you have to logout of said account and log into the other account and select the game you want to play.
No, only the "primary" account's games can be played on a switch. We have a switch each, not one we share.
 

Prattle

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
995
Or ... you just let him play with your account. If you're worried about saves ... hey you can then back them up at least. Or maybe just tell him to not mess with saves from other games.

My daughter has a child account linked to mine that she plays Splatoon online with.

She's matched with other players who play the same head down paint the floor style game. She's level 20.

Whereas I am matched with other aggressive, run straight in for the kill players and I'm around level 30.

It looks as if I'm going to have to pay for the family account even though my daughter doesn't really have a big interest in online or NES games.

Unless of course the child accounts work the same way as they do now - fingers crossed - allowing kids to have a separate online profile on one machine.
 

31GhostsIV

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,299
If they had an on-demand 'Netflix for classic Nintendo' library, where you could go all you can eat for games up to say, Gamecube era as long as you're subscribed it would be wonderful.

This is just pointless.