Sorry I meant 01:36:00, so one hour thirty six minutes in xD
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Sorry I meant 01:36:00, so one hour thirty six minutes in xD
That's an 1 hour, 36 minutes. Editorial is always last.
Edit: Beaten
You can just scroll to somewhere near the end (you can tell when the music changes). The entire episode is over 2 hours, so it looks like Youtube isn't done processing it yet so timestamps are iffy.
What the flying fuck? I really don't know if I wanna listen to that... good on Jones for apparently tackling that well though. I just don't understand.
You should give it a listen. Its such a textbook example of how you should handle and reply to an individual like that.
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Specific topic in question is 2 hours and 17 mins for me on the youtube archive.
I don't think that's correct, I'm at 1:40:00 and it hasn't happened yet. I saw someone else say it was around 2:17:00 but don't want to fast forward to check. Try around then.
EDIT: Beaten
Yeah just noticed. it seems that youtube only loaded the last 2 hours and skipped like the first 40 mins.
Hey Greg!
Thanks for the spreading the good word about King's Batman. Online communities I frequent trash on it too much ):
Brandon Jones is a real one. Listening to his editorial really makes me feel as though Jones is someone who can teach a lot. I certainly hope that the person who asked that question learns from this.
I dont get it. Cup Of Jones starts at the 41th minute fpr some reason and i cant go earlier..?
That was a great talk you had with Jones, I'm not into comics and especially not into Superman but I still enjoyed your POV about what makes him great as opposed to what makes him boring.
That usually happens with CoJ, it cuts at the 2:00 hours mark for some time after it gets uploaded then the problem solves itself.
Yeah it did that for me too. Just skip until you hear a music change. For me the Editorial was at 2:17:18
It's basically the last 25 minutes
The last several minutes I was able to catch were really good. Going to have to give the whole section a listen; I couldn't imagine handling a comment on that level without being heated from the get go.
Youtube freaks out if a stream is over 2 hours long. It's processing in the background, though, and if you go back in a couple of hours, you should be able to see the entire video.
Also, yeah, it was a good editorial.
And hi Greg.
So are people scared of mentioning the users name here that made the comment? Its diamondcrusador and has a track record of being a total just horrible person from what I am hearing.
Sad to see more examples like this pop in the community
Edit: Cant fanthom why that user would believe that to be something okay to say, cant imagine being someone like Jones and being able to handle someone ever mentioning threatening anyone close to you
Sad to see more examples like this pop in the community
Edit: Cant fanthom why that user would believe that to be something okay to say, cant imagine being someone like Jones and being able to handle someone ever mentioning threatening anyone close to you
I think there's just no reason to comment on who specifically it was, I wish people would listen to and treasure what Jones said, which was frankly EXCEPTIONAL, more than trying to shame and insult the culprit.
What Axass said pretty much. The name of the individual who commented is simply small compared to what Brandon Jones says, which is what is of true and significant importance in this situation.
I do think it is important to point out who it is though, so people in the community who might be new or whatever have an understanding of them if said person continues to stick around. The discipline is to clearly be handled by the allies and we should be all mature enough hear to understand that and not waste our time hunting this person down, with this being not the dudes first issue though I think we should make it clear who he is though.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong though I can be pretty upfront when it comes to anyone clearly being an ass
I just went to cup of jones to find where he talks about this, after just hearing how this dude worded the comment after Jones read it , my only reaction I can think of is the small clip of souja boy going "HUH?"
Dude needs help
Dude needs help
This is an incredibly difficult situation to deal with and Jones handled it far better than most could
These sort of comments (especially if you're getting them frequently online from fans/strangers/whatever) can be really frustrating and unnerving and I don't blame anyone for just saying "hey, go fuck yourself" and leaving it at that. Instead he tries to actually educate the person on why its wrong and why they might not understand people's reactions. Cheers Jones
These sort of comments (especially if you're getting them frequently online from fans/strangers/whatever) can be really frustrating and unnerving and I don't blame anyone for just saying "hey, go fuck yourself" and leaving it at that. Instead he tries to actually educate the person on why its wrong and why they might not understand people's reactions. Cheers Jones
He does. And Jones offered it today in a genuine and great way. That is all that truly matters.
I don't know what's wrong with my Patreon app but I received a notification for Cup of Jones but nothing appears in the feed. And my rss podcast feed doesn't show it either.
I think his main point was that the question wasn't okay, he wanted to see where the boundary was and yeah he went waaay too far and then some. I think dark comedy is fine but it belongs in tight-knit communities or friendships that you know for sure are okay with that level of edginess. Clearly a community like EZA is not one of those places. However this guy is a great example of a larger issue we face in the internet age; people think that because they spend dozens or hundreds of hours watching people online or on TV or in movies it means they are friends with those people despite never even having a single one-on-one conversation with that 'celebrity', and thus they believe they have a close friendship that allows them to bring up intimate and line-pushing jokes or conversations.
I experienced something like this while working at FUNimation, I was doing some background lines late in the evening and when we took a break there was a girl in the lobby talking with the receptionist, saying she had driven 5 hours for an audition. FUNimation does not hold open auditions so this girl was clearly lying. But when the director of the show (J Michael Tatum, pretty big name in the English dub world) came out to the lobby the girl started to freak out; shaking, knees buckling, hands cupping mouth and chest, she looked like she was going to faint. The admirable thing was that Tatum calmly went up and helped the girl to a chair, telling her to calm down and eventually explaining how it wasn't okay that she just show up at his place of work. Clearly she meant no harm but FUNimation has had a few crazy and violent fans in the past that has led to certain security measures being implemented at their office and there was a chance this girl's actions could have ended up with someone getting hurt.
What I'm trying to get across is that we shouldn't attack, shun, or disparage Diamondcrusader at this point. We should talk to him and try to understand why he thought this particular comment was acceptable, and then help him understand that there are limits in this community. Jones did a fantastic job expressing this and we have to continue the sentiment that this is a learning experience and that we should have an open dialogue about this stuff, not attack individuals that may genuinely not understand how their comments can hurt other people.
(What's the patreon goal to have Jones do an instructional series about how to be so damn eloquent? Seriously, that guy has a talent)
It's a long-running bug with the app that livestream posts don't appear in the feed. You have to view patreon via browser.
Yeah, there's some weird thing where the CoJ post doesn't show up in the app, despite a notification being sent for it. You have to go on to your phone's browser, login to Patreon, and watch it that way.
Ah! Thanks for letting me know - it was driving me crazy seeing that notification count and nothing appearing. I'll login via web!
The new Friend Code episode was really great. Never really could get into them before but man that made me look forward to the next one. Not too long, to the point, great integration of the questions, good interventions from Blood and Kyle, Damiani knew when to move on... I'm sure it helped that there was lot of substantial things to talk about, most of those subjects were interesting.
Great job Damiani.
Great job Damiani.
It's an online community, you're going to have people who are socially challenged
Just because they wrote something dark doesn't mean they're a psycho, it just means they cannot read the room and have a disconnect from what's appropriate or "funny" to write to people. Which is why Jones makes a genuine effort to try and explain it
You never know what people have going on in their personal lives that lead them to write dumb things or behave a certain way (say, spamming things in Twitch chat for instance) but when things cross over from annoyance to actual hurtful speech it becomes more of a pressing issue to tell them "hey, you think you're having fun but you need to stop"
Just because they wrote something dark doesn't mean they're a psycho, it just means they cannot read the room and have a disconnect from what's appropriate or "funny" to write to people. Which is why Jones makes a genuine effort to try and explain it
You never know what people have going on in their personal lives that lead them to write dumb things or behave a certain way (say, spamming things in Twitch chat for instance) but when things cross over from annoyance to actual hurtful speech it becomes more of a pressing issue to tell them "hey, you think you're having fun but you need to stop"
Yea just finished watching that and was pretty impressed with how jones handled it.
I feel kind of bad if I dont reply to all of this or just give a somewhat short reply, but wow thats pretty insane. Happy to hear that situation you witnessed was able to be handled like that and didnt lead to anything bad.
But yes I really truly hope that what Jones did today is at the very least sending him down the right path of seeking help or coming to the realization that his actions effect others no matter how he intended it. It was clearly the right thing of Jones to do to at the very least address what was said and offering guidance and advice instead of just a quick ban
I get what you're saying, but this isn't an isolated incident with this particular patron. He clearly needs professional help.
Huh guess some stuff happened when I was at work eh?
Will listen when the audio version pops up
Will listen when the audio version pops up
It was an editorial and a remarkably compassionate intervention. It's up to the patron in question to take the next step - if they want to.
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Totally agreed. That's the format for friendcode I'd like to see going forward. Plus a snazzy new intro:p
Just to clarify I didn't mean it as a defense or to say they didn't need help, just to steer away from "this person is actually dangerous based on weird comments" to "this person is looking for reactions/attention and is lacking the perspective of how it reads to everyone else" (because all we have is weird shit being written online)
Jones's answer was great however I think thats all that the Diamond Crusader wanted. He trolled him to get a reaction. A ban is so much simpler. Kudos to Jones, but i also felt bad for him for being so much affected by it. In my work i get super nasty comments too, to wich i reacted first.. and saw very fast that it was a lost cause. I developed an anti-troll skin with time..
Edit: i didnt get that this wasnt his 1st time.. Jones is just too kind then. Ban is the only option tbh.
Edit: i didnt get that this wasnt his 1st time.. Jones is just too kind then. Ban is the only option tbh.
I am probably a weird person as well in the regard of the question in the editorial, but I honestly wouldn't be upset about people asking the question like they asked Jones and I am not sure if it was meant as a way to attack Jones or not.
I would never ever ask it to somebody else and I totally understand why people don't like these questions (I also don't know why he asked it as he seemed to have known people would have a problem with it), but I am not sure it was meant to stir the pot.
I noticed it when my grandfather died. I certainly wish he didn't die and it's not like I was happy or anything like that at all, but it seemed I had a lot less trouble with dealing with it than the rest of my family.
I don't think I am a horrible person, but I honestly wouldn't mind people asking question about what I would do if family or friends of mine would die.
But again, it's not something you usually ask and certainly not if you don't know for sure the other person isn't ok with it.
I do feel for Jones having to deal with it as he clearly wasn't ok with it.
Hope I don't come over as a monster because of my thoughts about it, but yeah. I do feel for other people, but I think a question like this would make me personally just thing about it like I would most questions (I would be sad for sure), but as it's a hypothetical question it would probably not affect me too much.
Some people have less trouble with dealing with death than others I guess.
I am honestly not feeling to good about my self that I don't have as much trouble with it than most people (I probably seem like a bad person now, but I can't really change the way I think about things).
And yeah, Jones handled it very well. Kudos to him as it was clear that question was a lot for him to handle.
I would never ever ask it to somebody else and I totally understand why people don't like these questions (I also don't know why he asked it as he seemed to have known people would have a problem with it), but I am not sure it was meant to stir the pot.
I noticed it when my grandfather died. I certainly wish he didn't die and it's not like I was happy or anything like that at all, but it seemed I had a lot less trouble with dealing with it than the rest of my family.
I don't think I am a horrible person, but I honestly wouldn't mind people asking question about what I would do if family or friends of mine would die.
But again, it's not something you usually ask and certainly not if you don't know for sure the other person isn't ok with it.
I do feel for Jones having to deal with it as he clearly wasn't ok with it.
Hope I don't come over as a monster because of my thoughts about it, but yeah. I do feel for other people, but I think a question like this would make me personally just thing about it like I would most questions (I would be sad for sure), but as it's a hypothetical question it would probably not affect me too much.
Some people have less trouble with dealing with death than others I guess.
I am honestly not feeling to good about my self that I don't have as much trouble with it than most people (I probably seem like a bad person now, but I can't really change the way I think about things).
And yeah, Jones handled it very well. Kudos to him as it was clear that question was a lot for him to handle.
To be honest, I never had issues asking a friend this kind of questions and if someone asked it to me I wouldnt be offended. The thing is, the question comes from a total stranger by text comment so it is waaay harder to understand what that person actually meant. You dont know the tone, the person or anything, and because of that it bzcomes way more personal and can affect you way more sometimes
Yeah, hopefully that's the last we hear from this person.
I totally agree. It should never have been asked here and I don't really understand why anybody would ask something like that.
I just don't think I would personally think too much of it. It didn't seem like a threat to me (which is when I would probably freak out).
However, it was in poor taste and I hope it never happens again.
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