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Finally got to see this last week; whew boys what a ride. Cannot freaking wait for Captain Marvel. #donttellSlayven

Had to avoid ERA and the internet in general for a good while because folks won't stop chatting up the movie in the most unrelated places imaginable... biggest hype I've ever seen for anything, movie or otherwise.

Everyone's rolling out with their own personal funniest moment, and that's all good - but can we take a minute here to appreciate Okoye's fierce as fuck stink-eye she gives to Banner when he trips while running at full charge in the Hulkbuster armor? Holy shit, I was dying. Desperate for a high quality gif of that right now, lol.

This redneck dude had his phone on for half the movie (I could see the light from the screen flicker on in my peripheral vision) and when the lights went up he audibly spoke out among the silence: "I ain't never comin' to another one'a these Marvel things agin!!"

Ninmu kanyrou, Feige-san.

Also, somebody yelled out "Bye, bitch!" and single clapped when Star-Lord disintegrated.

All right, all right... I confess, it was me.

I did the Iggy. I find the character incredibly insufferable at the best of times and this movie reminded me why.

That joyous albeit brief moment of warmth made enduring that whole sequence more palatable and ultimately a little less sad overall.

Spidey, Groot and T'Challa especially though... ;_; I really can't see anyone but Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider-Man now, he was just so damned good.

I *really* wished there was a small scene or two of the Earth bound Avengers contingent reacting to a walking talking tree and bipedal raccoon creature toting a big ass gun popping up out of the blue, though. You'd think something weird of that magnitude would give them a moment's pause, even in the heat of battle. Poor Rocket. He and Thor have both been on the most brutal of journeys throughout the whole of the MCU, and I hope he gets a lion's share of screen time in the follow up.

Going back for a second viewing before this week is over, hopefully. I want to soak more of the background detail in this time and commit a deeper dive into Thanos's side of the conflict.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Wanda's powers derives directly from the mind stone. She may be the only one who can destroy one. That'smple as it is.

I do think Vision should have spelled it out in the movie, that she can destroy an infinity stone because her powers are from an infinity stone.

He did exactly that. He said because her powers came from the mind stone and it's the same type of power it should be able to destroy it.
 

Heid

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Jan 7, 2018
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What would be another condition that Strange created besides keeping Tony alive? It cant be just that, because it was pretty binary compared with 14 millions of possibilities, there must be some hint in his actions at that moment.

Tony is injured very specifically in the stomach. An injury Strange seemed to wait for before offering the Stone to spare his life.

I think they might do some Final Destination style domino effect, maybe it takes him out of a certain fight or puts him in the very specific place at a certain point in time. Or maybe inspires him to put the nanomachines inside his bloodstream?
 

Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
15,229
I saw it as them trying to save every possible life. When Wanda sees Thanos approaching, she realizes there is no other option. As long as hope remained, the Avengers would not abandon Vision. When hope was gone, they knew he had to go.
Yeah but hundreds of Wakandans had died to protect vision at that point.
 
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Red

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yeah but hundreds of Wakandans had died to protest vision at that point.
Not main characters. It's an unfortunate convention, but these movies channel our emotions into the named heroes. Cannon fodder largely doesn't matter, doesn't represent the conflict or struggle.
 

Prance

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Apr 28, 2018
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My main problem with the film is that in a 50/50 split, the number of superheroes vaporized seemed to be pretty high.
 

icyflamez96

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Oct 26, 2017
7,590
Apparently there was a poor translation in the subtitles of the Korean release.

Dr Stranges end game line was translated as "we are all doomed now."

Maybe it was just part of his winning future to tell Tony that they're all doomed

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m_shortpants

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am pretty convinced he did. Even when Thanos remarked that he had the most powerful weapon and didn't wield it... I kind of took Strange's poker face as he did. He may have done something back to future style to events of the previous movies. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in the Cpt Marvel movie in the 80s and tipped off Fury which is why he started the whole avengers initiative and hid Carol somewhere she wouldn't be effected by the snap. Would make a killer post credits scene for that movie

Agreed. On my second watch it definitely seemed like it wasn't as straightforward as Strange handing it over.
 

Ottaro

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am pretty convinced he did. Even when Thanos remarked that he had the most powerful weapon and didn't wield it... I kind of took Strange's poker face as he did. He may have done something back to future style to events of the previous movies. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in the Cpt Marvel movie in the 80s and tipped off Fury which is why he started the whole avengers initiative and hid Carol somewhere she wouldn't be effected by the snap. Would make a killer post credits scene for that movie
I love this theory. Thank you for implanting it in my head.
 

Keyframe

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Oct 29, 2017
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Was there a post credits scene by the way? I had to leave when credits started because girlfriend wasn't feeling good.
 

Poyunch

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,363
My main problem with the film is that in a 50/50 split, the number of superheroes vaporized seemed to be pretty high.
I like that it wasn't just half the people on-screen. Like when Hill and Fury were disappearing, I was legit surprised that Nick Fury started disappearing as well.
 

Neece

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Oct 27, 2017
9,202
Was there a post credits scene by the way? I had to leave when credits started because girlfriend wasn't feeling good.
Yes. Spoilers in case you want to know what happened.






Nick Fury and Maria Hill are in New York tracking the disturbance over Wakanda. Then suddenly there is a car accident and Nick and Maria discover the driver of the car disappeared. Then there is a panick in the city as many more people start vanishing including Maria. Nick sees this and runs to the car to retrieve a pager. He sends a distress signal to someone (revealed to be Captain Marvels logo) before disappearing as he says "motherfucker."
 

kurahador

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Oct 28, 2017
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Was there a post credits scene by the way? I had to leave when credits started because girlfriend wasn't feeling good.
Yes. The post-credit is a pretty important scene too as it shows what happen with general population when the snap happened.

Would be cool if A4 opening sees the point of view of random people and build towards the ensuing chaos. Kinda like BvS "how the world was introduced to Superman" intro.
 

TissueBox

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta wonder though.

How did they keep the cast from knowing they'd turn to dust? IF we assume they really do come back in AV4 and inevitably addresses it. It's very possible that AV4 turns out a lot more trippy than one might guess.

Then again, maybe some people knew, some didn't.
 

Trace

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Oct 25, 2017
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Canada
Gotta wonder though.

How did they keep the cast from knowing they'd turn to dust? IF we assume they really do come back in AV4 and inevitably addresses it. It's very possible that AV4 turns out a lot more trippy than one might guess.

Then again, maybe some people knew, some didn't.

Ruffalo spoiled a year ago that half the cast died, I'm sure they all know but were under obligation not to say anything.
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's interesting how people have really taken a liking to Spidey's new suit and how I've literally not seen a single negative comment about the legs, which people were not happy about the possibility of them showing up when Homecoming came out.
 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've always been ecstatic about the new suit, and I actually think I'm liking the Homecoming suit less and less. I really wish the webbing on his suit was thicker.
 

Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's interesting how people have really taken a liking to Spidey's new suit and how I've literally not seen a single negative comment about the legs, which people were not happy about the possibility of them showing up when Homecoming came out.
They used the legs to great effect (especially the tumbling scene) and his whole reason for getting the suit makes sense in context, so I think that helped a lot. Also, they made it a lot less like an Iron Man suit than his suit was in Homecoming, which I think was a big concern of people getting a fullblown Iron Spider suit making him even more like Iron Man.
 

Galkinator

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah I was pretty meh about this suit judging by the trailers, but its introduction made a lot of sense and the arms had little screen time but they were very useful and effective.
Also the texture of the suit on some close up shots showed that it's really made out of metal, where as in the trailers it looked all glossy and vaseline-ish.
 

Superking

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was pretty satisfied with the movie overall. There wasn't anything particularly galling, stupid, or offensive (thankfully no Dr. Zola in 500 Apple II computers in Captain America 2 level plot devices) that I can think of.

I'll write a more thorough review later but the one complaint that I do have was that I felt the movie did a pretty poor job of conveying Thanos' power. I mean, Thanos by himself is an incredibly powerful character. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, obviously even moreso. Yet the fights with him were pretty damn unimpressive.

Of course even then this would have been okay if it wasn't for the fact that we had some cosmic level threats already in prior Marvel movies. In Dr. Strange, we have a powerful interdimensional entity, and in Guardians 2, we have a goddamned planet. And yet, Thanos, despite being more powerful than both of the aforementioned beings, was somehow subdued (even if it was only for a few minutes) by nothing more than the combined strength of Iron Man and Spiderman (Do I need to point out that this same guy wrecked the Hulk in a matter of seconds earlier in the movie?).

This complaint also applies to Dr. Strange, though to a lesser degree.
 

Arta

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Oct 27, 2017
8,445
Random details.

When Spider-man goes you can see his hand turn to dust long before the rest of him does.

The shots of Black Panther and Spider-man being erased were probably technically the hardest to do because they interact with other people. Spider-man is hugging onto Tony, and the camera shows T'Challa walking up to Okoye, grab her arm, dust and then back up into the space he was standing in. Everyone else is standing by themselves, which is probably easier to "paint out".
 

APZonerunner

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Oct 28, 2017
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Was pretty satisfied with the movie overall. There wasn't anything particularly galling, stupid, or offensive (thankfully no Dr. Zola in 500 Apple II computers in Captain America 2 level plot devices) that I can think of.

I'll write a more thorough review later but the one complaint that I do have was that I felt the movie did a pretty poor job of conveying Thanos' power. I mean, Thanos by himself is an incredibly powerful character. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, obviously even moreso. Yet the fights with him were pretty damn unimpressive.

Of course even then this would have been okay if it wasn't for the fact that we had some cosmic level threats already in prior Marvel movies. In Dr. Strange, we have a powerful interdimensional entity, and in Guardians 2, we have a goddamned planet. And yet, Thanos, despite being more powerful than both of the aforementioned beings, was somehow subdued (even if it was only for a few minutes) by nothing more than the combined strength of Iron Man and Spiderman (Do I need to point out that this same guy wrecked the Hulk in a matter of seconds earlier in the movie?).

This complaint also applies to Dr. Strange, though to a lesser degree.

I mean, in defense of this - Hulk is one massive impact, right? The attempt to take him down on Titan is the opposite of that - for one, Hulk is aiming to injure, they're aiming to subdue. For two, Hulk is a huge, singular force, whereas the attempt is more death by a thousand cuts, with five different heroes working together to just restrain him long enough for Mantis to put him under. It's apples and oranges, I think, as in that segment they don't hurt Thanos any more than Hulk does - they just briefly immobilize him and get close to getting the gauntlet off.
 

Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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Random details.

When Spider-man goes you can see his hand turn to dust long before the rest of him does.

The shots of Black Panther and Spider-man being erased were probably technically the hardest to do because they interact with other people. Spider-man is hugging onto Tony, and the camera shows T'Challa walking up to Okoye, grab her arm, dust and then back up into the space he was standing in. Everyone else is standing by themselves, which is probably easier to "paint out".
I have a feeling most of them were shot separately so they can film reaction shots and "death" scenes so the cast doesn't even know whether they themselves die or who dies.
 

Lotus

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's interesting how people have really taken a liking to Spidey's new suit and how I've literally not seen a single negative comment about the legs, which people were not happy about the possibility of them showing up when Homecoming came out.

I didn't know what to think about the possibility of it having legs, the pic I always saw people post of the comic version made it look kind of corny to me tbh. But seeing it in live action where they come when necessary made it look so damn badass. And design-wise, it just looks incredible.
 

Khanimus

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Oct 25, 2017
40,227
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So are any of the characters from the end really actually dead?
They're dead. That's not to say it couldn't be undone or you deal in time-travel hijinks or something. Anyone killed by the Gauntlet/Soul Stone, we'll see again in some capacity. Gamora is still a coin toss. Vision could certainly be put into another body depending on what Shuri managed to do.

Loki and Heimdall certainly seem like they're done though.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I am pretty convinced he did. Even when Thanos remarked that he had the most powerful weapon and didn't wield it... I kind of took Strange's poker face as he did. He may have done something back to future style to events of the previous movies. Hell, i wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in the Cpt Marvel movie in the 80s and tipped off Fury which is why he started the whole avengers initiative and hid Carol somewhere she wouldn't be effected by the snap. Would make a killer post credits scene for that movie
I meant that Strange could go back in time and get the stones before Thanos does.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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They're dead. That's not to say it couldn't be undone or you deal in time-travel hijinks or something. Anyone killed by the Gauntlet/Soul Stone, we'll see again in some capacity. Gamora is still a coin toss. Vision could certainly be put into another body depending on what Shuri managed to do.

Loki and Heimdall certainly seem like they're done though.
Oh ok, yea Loki and the Gatekeeper are definitely gone. Ballsy move for Marvel to end a movie like that. People in the theater I seen it in were actually crying.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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So, has anyone made a crack about how every Infinity Stone just so happens to be in the Milky Way galaxy and none of the million other galaxies in the universe?