I'd add links to my thrash list but I do not have all afternoon to do so haha.
And yeah to the second, I do not get that at all, this is a metal thread, posting shit nobody's ever heard of is one of the main responsibilities of a metalhead.
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I'd add links to my thrash list but I do not have all afternoon to do so haha.
And yeah to the second, I do not get that at all, this is a metal thread, posting shit nobody's ever heard of is one of the main responsibilities of a metalhead.
Why should you have that trouble? I saved your post and im listening to some albums here and there, it's not hard.
I guess that poster could at least be more polite and what genre/s is into...
I guess that poster could at least be more polite and what genre/s is into...
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So I mentioned the other day that I saw a youtuber talking about Fetid Zombie so I checked them out. Ended up liking the tunes I listened to and just went all in and bought pretty much everything Bandcamp had. One of the big draws for me was this Japanese book of dudes art. I'm really into art books these days so something like that with a CD attached seemed cool. This project is all Mark Riddick's stuff. I hadn't really heard of him prior, but Fetid Zombie is his one man band and he's done art for quite a few bands it looks like: Dying Fetus, Exodus, Morbid Angel and Suffocation to name a few. The guy on youtube was going on and on about how much stuff was in his box and there is an impressive amount of goodies for sure.
There were stacks of various sizes of pictures and most or all have two sides.
Here are some additional posters of the much larger variety and I know where I'm putting them up. The book in the middle is the art book I mentioned.
And here is the pile of CD's I got. A lot are just 2 or 3 song EP's but there are a few full lengths. The EP's were generally like 3 bux so an easy investment.
The song that really sold me on all this was The Tincture is Red from this years EP. He's got some guest guitar players it looks like and the solos are just awesome. I'm pretty stoked to go look at all this when I get off work. Kind of been playing with the whole mass all afternoon. Definitely jammed a bunch of it. I would say the earlier stuff is a lot rougher and definitely more raw death metal than the newer material but I haven't really hit it all up yet. Anyway, pretty cool haul to have to work through this evening.
There were stacks of various sizes of pictures and most or all have two sides.
Here are some additional posters of the much larger variety and I know where I'm putting them up. The book in the middle is the art book I mentioned.
And here is the pile of CD's I got. A lot are just 2 or 3 song EP's but there are a few full lengths. The EP's were generally like 3 bux so an easy investment.
The song that really sold me on all this was The Tincture is Red from this years EP. He's got some guest guitar players it looks like and the solos are just awesome. I'm pretty stoked to go look at all this when I get off work. Kind of been playing with the whole mass all afternoon. Definitely jammed a bunch of it. I would say the earlier stuff is a lot rougher and definitely more raw death metal than the newer material but I haven't really hit it all up yet. Anyway, pretty cool haul to have to work through this evening.
Thrash album spotlight
Entropy - Ashen Existence
Still unmatched in its approach. They blend styles so well on this album it never suffers a lack of identity I don't think. Whether the singer is switching from high wailing thrash voice or death metal, it is a mixture that is unfortunately rare in thrash metal, one of the other better comparisons is from the band Possession - Eternal Haunt. Entropy delivers one of the more brilliant technical progressive offerings from 90s thrash metal. Mandatory listening for fans of the genre
Entropy - Ashen Existence
Still unmatched in its approach. They blend styles so well on this album it never suffers a lack of identity I don't think. Whether the singer is switching from high wailing thrash voice or death metal, it is a mixture that is unfortunately rare in thrash metal, one of the other better comparisons is from the band Possession - Eternal Haunt. Entropy delivers one of the more brilliant technical progressive offerings from 90s thrash metal. Mandatory listening for fans of the genre
As much as a lot of the Black Twilight Circle is great, I really wish we got a lot more of Ashdautas.
so trivium actually have a really shit hot drummer now
and actually have decent solo's ?
whats going on lol
and actually have decent solo's ?
whats going on lol
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Deicide debut or Morbid Angel debut? Their pretty similar in style and lyrical content but that Deicide is bad ass. Altars is good but I find myself spinning Deicide a lot more. Altars is a bit rough around the edges I guess where the other is more polished out the gate.
Altars is GOAT death metal album so.... Altars.
Deicide's entire discog is boring AF if you ask me.
Listening to this while i was preping for work this morning, but didn't pay attention to the band but kept thinking "man this feels magical" lol, and its part of the name.
Didn't know this and really enjoyed it. Thanks.
+1 for Morbid Angel. Deicide is not bad ass. Just ass. Another hot take.
Where the Sun is Silent and the split w/ Bone Awl are some of BTC's best material. If the latter had been another full length, it would have been legendary. I feel like the ideas of Ashdautas essentially got more refined and split into Arizmenda and Volahn, but of course it would have been great if it still was its own entity.
by the way Deicide fucking kill. First two are the essence of OSDM and EASILY some of the best albums from the FL scene. Amon demos are also essential and I happen to think Once upon the Cross is fantastic.
Pagan Altar are amazing, Mythical & Magical is one of my all time favorite albums, and their entire discography is must listen.
Have to go Morbid Angel here, I like both quite a lot, but I think for Deicide, Legions is my preferred release
Complete opposite actually. Altars of Madness is far more polished with obtuse precision riffing and drumming. Deicide S/T is sloppy, but still fun. Altars of Madness by a million.
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That precision is what draws me away now that you mention it. Morbid is definitely the more technical band but that fun factor is what makes the Deicide so good for me. I will say I liked Blessed better than Altars but I don't own it yet. It's high up on my list for sure but I wanted Altars first.
This is great, loads of variety, all the instruments sound excellent and loads of room for the bass - thanks for sharing!
Also... someone has been listening to Opeth - Deliverance, have a listen to the riff 3 minutes in!
Morbid Angel overall was simply more nuanced than basically all of its contemporaries in the scene and I find it odd when their first couple of albums are put up against any other in the same context. They're totally their own thing. You can put Deicide, Monstrosity, Malevolent Creation, Obituary, etc. kind of in the same box but not Morbid Angel IMO.
for what it's worth I think Altars has a legitimate case for being the greatest death metal album of all time, but I listen to Deicide and Legion way more often. The former has a lot of atmosphere and there is much to take in, whereas the latter are in your fucking face at all times and have a sort of immediacy. I can't see how anyone who is a death metal fan wouldn't be able to appreciate the first two Deicide. Legion in particular is one of the crown jewels of FLDM.
for what it's worth I think Altars has a legitimate case for being the greatest death metal album of all time, but I listen to Deicide and Legion way more often. The former has a lot of atmosphere and there is much to take in, whereas the latter are in your fucking face at all times and have a sort of immediacy. I can't see how anyone who is a death metal fan wouldn't be able to appreciate the first two Deicide. Legion in particular is one of the crown jewels of FLDM.
Actually read the OP for this thread and realise I hadn't met the newbie criteria, so here are some answers...
- What draws you into metal? Intensity, technicality, wide variety of themes, endless sub-genres and experimentation.
- Favorite genre(s) - Death metal and progressive metal, but I'll listen to most things.
- Favorite band(s) - This changes by the years but some staples are Black Dahlia, Opeth and Sabbath.
- First album(s) (what got you into the music?) - I didn't listen to music until I was 18 or so, then sat by a guy at collage who gave me a load of recommendations. I think it was Iron Man (Sabbath) and Powerslave (Maiden) really hooked me in the end.
- New favorite album(s) (recent discoveries, new or old) - Rivers of Nihil - The Silent Life is an incredible album, I posted the new Slugdge a couple of pages back, Veil of Pnath - II gets a lot of listens, just getting into the new Ingested album, The Level Above Human.
- What don't you like about this music? I find it a fairly cliquey, and some fans are quite close-minded. Sadly, it reflects in the metal media a fair bit.
- Do you play an instrument? I have played electric guitar for years, and was in a mildly successful melodeath band.
Rough around the edges? How The fuck....
Altars is still a masterpiece in riffwriting thirty years after its debut.
Holy shit I just discovered Stormspell records and all their artists. Every release is amazing!
Indeed, top 5 distro for me in terms of money spending I do each year haha
I agree regarding Volahn and Arizmenda. Naeth's vocals really were something though.
his vocals on pretty much everything but especially Vermillion Stars and Choirs of Vice are UNREAL. Some of the greatest black metal vocals ever I have to say.
it looks like BTC took down Where the Sun Is Silent from their Bandcamp so I'm posting this version of the cover if anyone might have some use for it. This has been my phone background for like two years now lol.
mandatory knowledge for black metal fans.
Will it Blend? is a great name for that song. Holy shit at all the musical styles thrown into that track and it somehow works).
Regarding Ihsahn, I listened to some tracks a few days and was blown away, thought they were great....so I looked them up and uhhhh
One member was arrested for burning a church, but then was topped by another member named Faust actually murdering a gay man for randomly hitting on him. Echoes of white nationalism here and there, and the band leader doesn't seem to be very apologetic about his band mates. Was totally disgusted and immediately deleted them from my iTunes and history. A real shame and quite horrifying.
Regarding Ihsahn, I listened to some tracks a few days and was blown away, thought they were great....so I looked them up and uhhhh
One member was arrested for burning a church, but then was topped by another member named Faust actually murdering a gay man for randomly hitting on him. Echoes of white nationalism here and there, and the band leader doesn't seem to be very apologetic about his band mates. Was totally disgusted and immediately deleted them from my iTunes and history. A real shame and quite horrifying.
You've got things a bit mixed up.
Ihsahn is a solo work. Ihsahn was once one of the band leaders for Emperor, one of the most influential black metal bands out there. Faust was a member in that band. He is not a member of Ihsahn, because that's a solo project and not a band for one and for two he hasn't been a studio musician in any of those albums at all either.
The shit Faust did was deplorable and horrible, but as I understand it Ihsahn views things now through the lens of the Norwegian court/justice system. Faust did his time in jail and is now out, and if it's good enough for the county/courts/justice system then he's fine playing a show or two. I don't know that I necessarily agree with him but at the same time I do see where he's coming from. People that go to jail and come out have to integrate back into society in some way or else they'll just do that shit again. They don't necessarily deserve the fame of a band or something, obviously, but that's what the guy does.
The beginnings of black metal is filled with some pretty deplorable people. Some of them have grown out of it and seem much more mature now. Others are... well... Varg.
In any case the shit about Faust seems pretty separate from Ihsahn's solo work for me.
I am aware of the difference between Emperor and Ihsahn, maybe just didn't word it well but it is the same band leader that is Ihsahn so not enough difference for me.
I'm basing my opinion mostly from his talk here:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2018/03/3...once-youve-done-your-time-you-can-start-over/
In which he doesn't seem to care enough about such a heinous act—the guy never even publically apologized for it and just seems to say "oh, that's behind me" and Ihsahn continued to do shows with him in Emperor?? He even joined a band named Blood Tsunami after that. Disrespectful as fuck. Ihsahn was 1/3 of a group of deplorable people and still doesn't mind doing things with them and basically saying they're still friends and making statements that basically amount to "that's how the industry is! You gotta accept that!" If there's any truth in that, I'd be done with metal, but I really don't think most metal heads would do apologetics for murder hate crimes. Just, I can't support that at all.
Speaking of Emperor i keep meaning to check out Samoth's latest band.
Thats a name i haven't heard in a while, any choice tracks to check out off the latest one?
Thats a name i haven't heard in a while, any choice tracks to check out off the latest one?
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Double edged sword. Do we as a society never forgive someone of their past even if the person turned around? I'm not offering answers because I don't have them, but if you found out your bus driver or waitress was an ex con would you ride a different bus or eat somewhere else? How far does this go?
That whole thing is tough on everyone. The person who did the crime rightfully gets shit the rest of their life but then fans of the art or food also get shit on for liking the content no matter how far in the past the crime was.
Again, I don't have answers myself but situations like that are messy. I actually don't mind the discussion because a lot of people have done a lot of shitty things...like the movie industry has had its share recently. Am I now forced by society to not watch a film because this director, that producer, or maybe an actor was shitty? Those are recent things though. These crimes in question are decades old though. Hang on forever, never forgive?
My personal take is one of disconnect quite honestly. I have a line but like everything else in life it's fuzzy. I mean do we track down every person who was involved in making said product and get clean rap sheets for everyone from artist, to mixer, to janitor... When can we just enjoy something good that person may have done?
Been listening to a lot of Wormrot lately. Voices is such a fantastic slbum. There has been some great bands coming out of Singapore and Indonesia.
New Releases: one extreme metal, drone, doom, pop, dance album by the infamous duo The Body followed by a new release from one of the best funeral doom bands around - Eye of Solitude.
The Body - I Have Fought Against It, But I Can't Any Longer
https://thebody.bandcamp.com/album/i-have-fought-against-it-but-i-can-t-any-longer
Eye of Solitude - Slaves To Solitude
https://eyeofsolitude.bandcamp.com/album/slaves-to-solitude
The Body - I Have Fought Against It, But I Can't Any Longer
https://thebody.bandcamp.com/album/i-have-fought-against-it-but-i-can-t-any-longer
Eye of Solitude - Slaves To Solitude
https://eyeofsolitude.bandcamp.com/album/slaves-to-solitude
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Slayer's European farewell tour dates:
Nov 01: Dublin 3 Arena, Ireland
Nov 03: London SSE Arena Wembley, UK
Nov 05: Cardiff Motorpoint Arena, UK
Nov 07: Birmingham Arena, UK
Nov 09: Manchester Arena, UK
Nov 10: Newcastle Metro Radio Arena, UK
Nov 12: Glasgow SSE Hydro, UK
Nov 14: Dortmund Westfalenhalle, Germany
Nov 15: Zwolle Ijsselhallen, Netherlands
Nov 17: Madrid Vistalegre, Spain
Nov 18: Barcelona St Jordi, Spain
Nov 20: Milan Mediolanum Forum, Italy
Nov 21: Zurich Halle 622, Switzerland
Nov 23: Vienna Stadthalle, Austria
Nov 24: Freiburg Sick Arena, Germany
Nov 26: Hamburg Barclaycard Arena, Germany
Nov 27: Lodz Atlas Arena, Poland
Nov 29: Munich Olympiahalle, Germany
Nov 30: Erfurt Messehalle, Germany
Dec 02: Berlin Mercedes-Benz Arena, Germany
Dec 03: Copenhagen Royal Arena, Denmark
Dec 05: Stockholm Hovet, Sweden
Dec 06: Oslo Spektrum, Norway
Dec 08: Helsinki Ice Hall, Finland
And since we're on the topic recently about Morbid Angel, they uploaded their new music video few days ago, the space CGI stuff is real bad, but I guess not every band has the budget for special effects like Behemoth
Nov 01: Dublin 3 Arena, Ireland
Nov 03: London SSE Arena Wembley, UK
Nov 05: Cardiff Motorpoint Arena, UK
Nov 07: Birmingham Arena, UK
Nov 09: Manchester Arena, UK
Nov 10: Newcastle Metro Radio Arena, UK
Nov 12: Glasgow SSE Hydro, UK
Nov 14: Dortmund Westfalenhalle, Germany
Nov 15: Zwolle Ijsselhallen, Netherlands
Nov 17: Madrid Vistalegre, Spain
Nov 18: Barcelona St Jordi, Spain
Nov 20: Milan Mediolanum Forum, Italy
Nov 21: Zurich Halle 622, Switzerland
Nov 23: Vienna Stadthalle, Austria
Nov 24: Freiburg Sick Arena, Germany
Nov 26: Hamburg Barclaycard Arena, Germany
Nov 27: Lodz Atlas Arena, Poland
Nov 29: Munich Olympiahalle, Germany
Nov 30: Erfurt Messehalle, Germany
Dec 02: Berlin Mercedes-Benz Arena, Germany
Dec 03: Copenhagen Royal Arena, Denmark
Dec 05: Stockholm Hovet, Sweden
Dec 06: Oslo Spektrum, Norway
Dec 08: Helsinki Ice Hall, Finland
And since we're on the topic recently about Morbid Angel, they uploaded their new music video few days ago, the space CGI stuff is real bad, but I guess not every band has the budget for special effects like Behemoth
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I dig that
Cool to hear something more raw from them. I will say, I do like the later Immortal/Abbath sound and this seems like it exchanges memorability for rawness. Good sound but not really remarkable
Cool to hear something more raw from them. I will say, I do like the later Immortal/Abbath sound and this seems like it exchanges memorability for rawness. Good sound but not really remarkable
That interview is also what I was largely referencing when I said his views on it seem to be in line with the Norwegian court/legal system and I can understand that. Were I in his position I don't think I would personally play with Faust but I can kind of see where he's coming from. I also understand what he's saying when he says if you have a family member or someone close to you do something horrible it's a different thing than someone where that's all you know. And that stuff shouldn't really be expected to affect enjoyment of the art because, let's face it, a lot of art is made by horrible people. I'm not saying you can't have it affect you. Just that it's understandable that it doesn't for some.
From his perspective that really is probably how the industry is, at least Black Metal. The history of that and especially from his perspective is pretty controversial. I can see why he would say you can't have black metal without the tsort of thing because... well... that's where it started. Yes you can find black metal bands that didn't do horrible shit, but you can't really outright ignore the foundation of the entire genre, I don't think.
In any case I can respect not wanting to listen to him or thinking he's questionable. I don't knock you one bit for it. Personally I think Ihsahn himself is divorced enough for my comfort. I do have a bit of an issue giving money to people like Varg and I'd probably not want to go see Emperor with someone like Faust in the lineup. We all have our lines I guess.
Dirge will always be my favorite from them. I can't wait to see them in a few weeks at MDF, shits gonna be crazy!
Not really metal, but any of you ever listen to The Gault? Album came out a fair long while ago but the members played in a number of metal groups like Weakling, Asunder etc.
Just listened to it and that's how I feel. With Abbath the band had a unique sound, but it feels in the mix with other black metal now.
Funnily enough, I was thinking the same thing about the new Skeletonwitch single. They dropped their vocalist and have changed their vibe a bit, not that I don't like the new stuff, but they have lost their uniqueness a little... anyway, here's the track.
For anyone who missed out on Skeletonwitch, their albums are a lot of fun. Highly recommended.
I see Skeletonwitch in a few days and I'm excited. I really dig that new tune.