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Does Agents of Shield deserve a Season Seven

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 34.0%
  • Most Definitely

    Votes: 16 15.5%
  • Wait, what happen to Six?

    Votes: 13 12.6%
  • Only if they include The Daughters of the Dragon

    Votes: 12 11.7%
  • Thor 2: The Ghost Rider

    Votes: 27 26.2%

  • Total voters
    103

DangerMouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,402
Honestly, I don't know what you're expecting the show to mention.

Infinity War happens over a couple days, realistically. We're likely right before the Wakanda battle in AoS time.

The only thing they could have directly mentioned is Tony Stark's name. That's really it. They can't show or even mention Spider-Man in the New York battle because of Sony and the idea is that the battle already happened (in an evacuated area, as Infinity War told us).

After the New York battle, the only other thing in the film that would be known to the public would be the results of the very end of the film and we're not there yet in AoS. The New York battle at the beginning of the film is the only thing that makes sense for the show to mention and they legally can't mention one of the three heroes involved.
Agreed.

Daisy first heard about NY the night after it was already over which lines up since it happened earlier during the day in the movie. The attack on the base and then Talbot going up to the enemy ship also happened during this night and now in today's episode, when we left the enemy ship for Talbot's home, it's finally day time again, perhaps morning, and the news giving new updates on the damages, this seems to line up perfectly with this being the day of the Wakanda battle going into the season finale.

Okay, I'm sold on Tablot as Graviton. It's a great development for the character. He was awesome this episode.
Yeah, he was fantastic, owned so many scenes. The tension was great too.

Just thinking about this, and I think that's the swerve. I'll post my speculation in spoilers, even though there's no IW info:

Thinking this through, future Yoyo said trying to save Coulson is what ended the world. Well, Daisy was trying to save Coulson by going this whole centipede route and now they have a potential Talbot stopping option. Now of course next episode they're going to have to choose what to do, and after much debate they would logically choose to use it on Talbot to save the Earth rather than save 1 man. BUT, what if that's what sets Talbot off? We know the centipede formula can potentially make a normal Human explode violently if it goes wrong, what do we think will happen if it makes Graviton kerplode? Sounds like something that would crack the planet wide open. I think the swerve will be to not use it on Graviton and instead use it on Coulson so he can do something to stop Graviton. Maybe let Graviton absorb him so Coulson can get through to him in his mind?
Wow, I like it, that's a good theory.

Not sure about him letting himself get absorbed since Talbot said something about how he's pretty much silenced the other voices (though he's probably exaggerating since we see how he's acting), though I suppose it's possible. But I think the rest of that is pretty great guess since that really does sound like what they might have done in the past, since Daisy's attempt to save Coulson has supplied them with it, especially if Coulson's made the final call.

I want a SHIELD movie. Just give me Daisy wrecking shit with a ridiculously high budget.
Man, won't happen but I'd freaking love it.
 
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amusix

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
1,597
I personally think the showrunners knew the bare minimum necessary to do a basic tie-in. Without seeing the next episode, they probably were told
"New York gets attacked by Thanos's children, the movie takes place roughly around 24 hours, and at the end half of the population dies and these are the effects we used."
There's no way they knew that much. There's nothing in the show to suggest that they TV writers knew anything beyond having seen the trailer and the comicon/d23 footage. They knew something went down in New York...and that's it. In fact, they over estimated how big that would be. The New York fight was small, localized...a block or two of minor building and road damage and a tree or two in central park. The ship itself caused some strong winds, a few signs to blow over, a few cars have insurance claims. The news reports in SHIELD act as if a second incident happened.
 

mutantmagnet

Member
Oct 28, 2017
12,401
There's no way they knew that much. There's nothing in the show to suggest that they TV writers knew anything beyond having seen the trailer and the comicon/d23 footage. They knew something went down in New York...and that's it. In fact, they over estimated how big that would be. The New York fight was small, localized...a block or two of minor building and road damage and a tree or two in central park. The ship itself caused some strong winds, a few signs to blow over, a few cars have insurance claims. The news reports in SHIELD act as if a second incident happened.


Our News agencies are already hyperbolic.


An alien warship hovering over the same city that was attacked would justify the overreaction.
 

Skade

Member
Oct 28, 2017
8,869
The only thing i don't like with Talbot as Graviton is the fucking mascara he got on his eyes.

Apart from that, show's great, as always.
 

Mariolee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,310
Why? The show doesn't serve any purpose as far as Marvel Studios is concerned, and it's effectively run out of a separate division of Disney altogether post-2015. This is wishful thinking, IMO.

There's no way they knew that much. There's nothing in the show to suggest that they TV writers knew anything beyond having seen the trailer and the comicon/d23 footage. They knew something went down in New York...and that's it. In fact, they over estimated how big that would be. The New York fight was small, localized...a block or two of minor building and road damage and a tree or two in central park. The ship itself caused some strong winds, a few signs to blow over, a few cars have insurance claims. The news reports in SHIELD act as if a second incident happened.

Again, you guys must have missed the point in my original post where we simply just do not know and it's futile for us to speculate since we haven't seen the finale yet and the writers haven't said anything. One thing I do know is this is still absolutely connected to the MCU considering all of the references dropped just this episode. Ya'll might be absolutely right that they didn't know shit, but we're getting so caught up with this we're barely talking about other aspects of the actual show imo.
 

Danthrax

Resettlement Advisor
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Oct 25, 2017
2,467
Northeast Ohio
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Bosses Talk Team's Final Life-or-Deaths Dilemma, Looming Infinity War Threat

Of course, the heated debate the team is about to have, over which path to take, could wind up being small potatoes if TV's S.H.I.E.L.D. — having already made passing references to the events of Avengers: Infinity War — fully dovetails with the end of the blockbuster movie. (No spoilers here!) After all, this week's episode revealed that it is now daylight again on the East Coast of the United States. And if you subscribe to the math that Infinity War spanned a little over 24 hours, big things should be happening soon.

Should S.H.I.E.L.D. fans worry that small and big screen worlds will calamitously collide in the TV show's season finale next Friday?

"We think of our last few episodes taking place during the film," co-showrunner Jed Whedon said when presented with our math. "You're free to worry about anything you want to worry about," he chuckled, "but for us, really, [Episodes] 19 through 22 are pretty much one day."
 

fallengorn

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,120
New York City
Just thinking about this, and I think that's the swerve. I'll post my speculation in spoilers, even though there's no IW info:

Thinking this through, future Yoyo said trying to save Coulson is what ended the world. Well, Daisy was trying to save Coulson by going this whole centipede route and now they have a potential Talbot stopping option. Now of course next episode they're going to have to choose what to do, and after much debate they would logically choose to use it on Talbot to save the Earth rather than save 1 man. BUT, what if that's what sets Talbot off? We know the centipede formula can potentially make a normal Human explode violently if it goes wrong, what do we think will happen if it makes Graviton kerplode? Sounds like something that would crack the planet wide open. I think the swerve will be to not use it on Graviton and instead use it on Coulson so he can do something to stop Graviton. Maybe let Graviton absorb him so Coulson can get through to him in his mind?
On the flip side...

Fitz and Simmons were convincing themselves that curing Coulson would break the loop. What if they decide to actually cure Coulson, only for him to be dusted? Now you have Graviton flying around without a way to stop him.
 

luca

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,524
Is the season finale next week?

I gotta catch up with the 4 episodes I'm behind with this Sunday. Very unfortunate I had way too many things to attend to for the past few weeks and couldn't be in on the discussion huhu.

Anyway, holding my breath like the rest of you for a renewal in the coming days.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
At this point I expect that it's getting renewed, but that where it's renewed is currently up in the air. Explaining a lot of the dissonant weirdness surrounding this one.
 

Egg0

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,659
The gang is left with some Paragon/Renegade type decision. The shot at the end with all of them together in a circle reminded me of the end of "Power Play" from weirdly enough, season 5 (episode 21) of Angel.

I'm convince that next week Davis will start to tell his story and die.
 

Thatonedice1

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,112
Working on that also.
MOD EDIT: Inserted spoiler tag.

So next week Daisy gives Coulson the serum then both of them turns to dust along with Mack and then Talbot tears the earth apart for gravitonium leaving Fitz, Simmons, May, and Yo-Yo on the light house.
 
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Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,144
Is Mission Impossible Fallout a Talbot prequel?
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Cuburger

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Oct 28, 2017
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ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
They could also mention the following but probably didn't because they weren't told about it.
Scotland. Yes it's smaller but it's still super heroes fucking shit up.

There's absolutely no reason for the show to mention the Scotland fight. It makes sense for the news in America to be focused the events in New York over something that happened in the middle of the night in Scotland with little to no bystanders even in the scenes. It's a very minor part of the film.

Also, the show is making the NY thing a lot bigger than it was in the movie because they didn't actually know the scope of it.

The New York battle has been known since the first trailer last fall. We see the amount of damage behind Tony and Strange. We see a giant freaking alien spaceship hovering above the city and the trailer has a shot that shows that the ship simply being that close to the city has burnt the tops of buildings and set trees on fire. And then in the movie, we see more destruction, like Tony being thrown through a building. Even if the producers weren't given a rundown of the major points in the film, all they needed was the first trailer last fall to see that a large area in NY got fucked up.

The show didn't say many people were killed in NY. They said there was a lot of destruction and there was.

Avengers-Infinity-War-New-York-Distruction.jpg


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If that happened in real life, it would be breaking news on every channel for quite a while, let alone a few hours after it happened, which is where we're at in AoS.
 
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Deleted member 17388

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Nice. They should do a flashback to Season 1 with that Ultimate Spider-Man artstyle
And they reveal Ward was always Taskmaster and he's still alive :V
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
Why the hell are we discussing Infinity War openly in here

Honestly, it might be time to just allow open spoilers. After next week, we'll almost certainly be seeing the impact of the end of IW in the show itself.

But no one is talking about spoilers here really. What are you referring to? My post was mostly talking about the trailer.

Edit: Oh, I see a mod had to make an edit earlier in the page. Maybe you meant that.
 

Rellyrell28

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,958
Honestly, it might be time to just allow open spoilers. After next week, we'll almost certainly be seeing the impact of the end of IW in the show itself.

But no one is talking about spoilers here really. What are you referring to? My post was mostly talking about the trailer.

Edit: Oh, I see a mod had to make an edit earlier in the page. Maybe you meant that.
What's crazier honestly is know pages on facebook or twitter just openly posting IW memes like
ESPN's pages showing players from eliminating teams in the NBA playoffs getting dusted. Like that literally the ending plot point and a company owned by Disney is doing that lol.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
What's crazier honestly is know pages on facebook or twitter just openly posting IW memes like
ESPN's pages showing players from eliminating teams in the NBA playoffs getting dusted. Like that literally the ending plot point and a company owned by Disney is doing that lol.

I get people want to avoid spoilers. I'm one of them. I was on lockdown. But we're in the third weekend of the movie and this is a thread about a TV show that is taking place during the events of the movie.

If you're really trying not to be spoiled -- especially given how insanely huge the meme became -- you gotta go see it by now. And definitely by next weekend if you watch AoS.
 

ManaByte

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's absolutely not confirmed yet but brace yourselves for bad news. It may be coming. I know people were working through the weekend at ABC on it (was talking to someone yesterday and today about it), but tonight it doesn't sound promising.

Clark Gregg removed "Coulson in AoS" from his Twitter Bio, and Chloe removed her SHIELD header.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Brooklyn, NY
okay, now I hope I'm wrong and the final scene of the series is a never-to-be-resolved cliffhanger of half the cast disintegrating due to something that has nothing to do with AoS' own storylines, because that would actually be kinda funny
 

Mariolee

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,310
It's absolutely not confirmed yet but brace yourselves for bad news. It may be coming. I know people were working through the weekend at ABC on it (was talking to someone yesterday and today about it), but tonight it doesn't sound promising.

Clark Gregg removed "Coulson in AoS" from his Twitter Bio, and Chloe removed her SHIELD header.

:(
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
It's absolutely not confirmed yet but brace yourselves for bad news. It may be coming. I know people were working through the weekend at ABC on it (was talking to someone yesterday and today about it), but tonight it doesn't sound promising.

Clark Gregg removed "Coulson in AoS" from his Twitter Bio, and Chloe removed her SHIELD header.

That was not part of Gregg's Twitter bio in the first place. And Chloe still has it in her bio.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
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Oct 25, 2017
17,284
Midgar, With Love
It's absolutely not confirmed yet but brace yourselves for bad news. It may be coming. I know people were working through the weekend at ABC on it (was talking to someone yesterday and today about it), but tonight it doesn't sound promising.

Clark Gregg removed "Coulson in AoS" from his Twitter Bio, and Chloe removed her SHIELD header.

Hey... thanks for the heads up.

:/
 

Lotus

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's absolutely not confirmed yet but brace yourselves for bad news. It may be coming. I know people were working through the weekend at ABC on it (was talking to someone yesterday and today about it), but tonight it doesn't sound promising.

Clark Gregg removed "Coulson in AoS" from his Twitter Bio, and Chloe removed her SHIELD header.

Totally chilling
 

ZeoVGM

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Oct 25, 2017
76,219
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Hey... thanks for the heads up.

:/

He's wrong. A quick search on Twitter shows that ManaByte is going on this based on what some random person said to him:

https://twitter.com/freshcleanjoey/status/995491262760407040

And a quick Google search shows multiple screen shots of Clark's Twitter dating back to 2014 and it says the same thing it says now.



And Chloe still has "Daisy Johnson from Agents of SHIELD" in her bio. Which leaves us at her changing her cover photo on Twitter, which is a bit of a stretch to make.

Not that the show couldn't be cancelled. But this is just Twitter nonsense.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
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Oct 25, 2017
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Midgar, With Love
None of the villains this team has routinely faced have ever been so ruthless, none of the narratives this great show has devised have ever been so bold, as the annual slugfest that is this moment. This tense and terrifying moment.

I hope those talks become promising again fast, my friends. Here's to at least five years with Marvel's top secret best cast though either way.

EDIT: Oh shit, well, thanks for the heads up!