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Avengers: Infinity War |OT2| Good luck, Morons (Unmarked Spoilers)
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I should clarify that it's probably his agents/representation who work all that stuff out. From what I gather I highly doubt Chris himself was even part of the conversation. It's explained in the video.
Humans can manipulate Infinity Stones, actually. It's the Power Stone which is dangerous to contact directly, and not only to humans: aliens in the Guardians of the Galaxy flashback exploded as well, and Thanos just touches Thor's head with the stone to torture him. Ronan would have died as well, had he not stuck the stone in his hammer.
It's a hypothetical based on what's been shown and said on screen.
Just like people are hypothesizing he can create unlimited resources without causing the universe to become unstable and collapsing in on itself.
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But you're putting it forward as something "we can assume" happened, which we have no reason to believe it did.
How is that any different than people pushing the whole create unlimited resources idea?
People aren't claiming that that is actually what happened in the movie.
going to watch it in 3D this week, anyone have any opinions on the quality of the conversion?
The biggest criticism of Thanos is exactly that. People are proclaiming it as a fact that he could do that. I'm also saying what I'm proposing the same way they do.
If you have a problem with the way I'm proposing my hypothetical why don't you have a problem with them?
I thought the conversion was great. There are several real standout scenes in 3D.
You're not seeing the difference.
People are saying "Why didn't Thanos just _____?"
You're saying, "We can assume Thanos created a bond with the gauntlet."
One is exploring a hypothetical. The other is assuming that the baseless hypothetical is what actually happened in the story.
We can assume, means it''s a possibility not a fact. That there is an open door.
Saying Why didn't he means they are stating it as a fact that he could do it.
We can assume means we have reason to assume. We have no reason to think that Thanos created a bond with the gauntlet. Nothing in the movie compels us to assume it happened.
The power of the reality gem and Doctor's Strange's comments of seeing 14 million possible futures, allows that door to be opened.
I'm not saying it is that way. It's just fun to speculate what could be the 14 million possible ideas Strange thought of.
I agree. Zen Sherlock's statement in the film, about investigating all those possibilities and finding only one in which Thanos fails, invites speculation and discussion. We have about twelve months for that.
You know what Strange went through 14 million thoughts in a matter of minutes and was able to memorize every single one of them all and not confuse one with the other.
I have struggle remember a few thoughts at a time sometimes lol.
Unless Dr Strange put himself through a time loop and lived through 14 million possible futures, so he must have been in a time loop for a million years, and we just seeing as time went on from the heroes perspective.
I have struggle remember a few thoughts at a time sometimes lol.
Unless Dr Strange put himself through a time loop and lived through 14 million possible futures, so he must have been in a time loop for a million years, and we just seeing as time went on from the heroes perspective.
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I'm not so sure about that. A pretty big deal was made about normal mortals not even being able to hold the Tesseract and that was just the container for the Space Stone.
Same goes for the Mind and Time Stones, too, really. While nobody has ever said they can't be held by humans, no human has ever held them. Doctor Strange even used magic to levitate the Time Stone.
Nothing really indicates that any of the stones can be physically held without tearing the person apart unless that person is sufficiently powerful or has a device to channel the power of the stone for them.
Exactly. And it's also Jeremy Renner's acting and delivery style. This is why the whole family scene in Age of Ultron was so out of left field.
Y'all gonna be sick when he plays a huge role in 4.
Russos made it clear they're setting him up.
We know the people turned to dust are obviously coming back but then we have the people who are dead and my prediction
Gamora: probably dead
Loki: probably dead but 50/50 whether Tom wants to return
Vision: Shuri made a back up
Heimdall: probably dead as hell
Gamora: probably dead
Loki: probably dead but 50/50 whether Tom wants to return
Vision: Shuri made a back up
Heimdall: probably dead as hell
How are we actually supposed to answer these what ifs? I never know.
My introduction to Hawkeye and Natasha was in Avengers. Their deep bonding seemed to me the model for the group bonding that develops in the film. Natasha, with a blood-drenched past that is hinted at by her name and fighting skills that leave one as breathless as her unfortunate victims, owes the start of her redemption to Clint. Despite Loki's interference Clint is a sturdy ally Natasha depends upon as she seeks to erase the red from her ledger. It's a gripping image. They are the nearest characters in that film to audience proxies.
Hawkeye in particular may not be very close to the comic book character he's based on, but the revelation of his hidden family in Ultron isn't really such a surprise for the audience as it is for the rest of the Avengers. He's a dependable guy, so of course he's getting on with his life whenever he's not needed by his team.
Finally watched it. Amazing time, but some things bugged me:
-Ant-Man and Wasp decided to sit themselves out while the world was practically ending and everyone was dying because...house arrest? Come on son...
-Hawkeye: same thing basically. Sitting on his porch sipping martinis with the fam while all his friends are getting massacred?
There be better some damn good explanations coming.
-Ant-Man and Wasp decided to sit themselves out while the world was practically ending and everyone was dying because...house arrest? Come on son...
-Hawkeye: same thing basically. Sitting on his porch sipping martinis with the fam while all his friends are getting massacred?
There be better some damn good explanations coming.
They never told Scott and Barton what was up, so it's not like they would have known to help. San Francisco and probably Hawkeye's farm aren't on the way from New York to Wakanda either.
The whole event seemed to unfold in a few hours, plus they thought they could handle it. And really, if the threat was so big that they didn't think they could handle it, what are those guys going to add?
I think most would agree someone like Ant-Man and Wasp are more capable than Black Widow and other lesser heroes. Regardless the logical thing to do would still be to get all the help you can. I mean Ant-Man's super capable.
I just find it hard to imagine Cap, Widow and them not thinking "Shit, this is it, let's get those guys in on this too, we need every single person".
I mean, I agree, but I think they probably thought having guys like Hulk around would be enough. Plus they had the whole Wakandan army, with their pointy sticks that shoot lasers.
The roster was packed dude lol at least they gave those characters an excuse. Theres people missing from Ragnarok and Black Panther with no explanation. They could have used those rhinos :P
But you know Antman and The Wasp movie can still qualm that gripe. They're on a mission and just don't check the news or whatever. People are expecting The Snap to occur in the post credits scene or for a Hawkeye cameo... personally I want a heel turn at Act 2 and the whole film just becomes them trying to save people from massive disasters old school superhero style. Planes falling out the sky, prison breaks, massive surges in crime, The Snap is basically the fucking rapture, they really need to put the absolute carnage that would occur with such an event on the screen. I think Avengers 4 will probably just show the settled aftermath.
Also everyone say Hawkeye is useless but give him a gun and effectively turn him Bullseye, a guy who can shoot with insane accuracy and thats a decent enough justification for him to stick around for me.
It seems like they didn't have time to do much of anything. They barely had time to get Vision to Shuri so she could start the removal process. They probably weren't thinking of anything beyond assembling Wakanda ASAP and getting their asses to the front.
Oh yeah, I remember waiting for those rhinos to turn up during the big battle, but forgot about it as the battle got crazier.
He didn't actually touch it, he was levitating it above his fingers.
Likewise, Skull only touched the Cube casing for the Stone, and got painfully fired into outer space. Who knows what would happen if you touched the Stone itself.
These gatekeeping claims that there isn't any real acting in Infinity War is gross.
They never even had time to get them, and by the time they realize they're in over their heads, what are they supposed to do? And how are Hawkeye, Ant-Man & Wasp supposed to speed to Wakanda?
The events of the movie seem to happen pretty damn fast. And it's not like the Avengers to always grab every hand available to them; even Tony wasn't planning on using Spidey, Peter just showed initiative and volunteered himself, and was close enough to do so in a timely manner.
For all we know, Ant-Man & Wasp aren't even in this realm.
They never even had time to get them, and by the time they realize they're in over their heads, what are they supposed to do? And how are Hawkeye, Ant-Man & Wasp supposed to speed to Wakanda?
The events of the movie seem to happen pretty damn fast. And it's not like the Avengers to always grab every hand available to them; even Tony wasn't planning on using Spidey, Peter just showed initiative and volunteered himself, and was close enough to do so in a timely manner.
For all we know, Ant-Man & Wasp aren't even in this realm.
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Just saw it since it finally opened in CHina.
1) That was Red Skull with the soul gem, correct?
2) They talk about Scarlet Witch being super Powerful....but she never showed it, really.
3) Thor was rocking it the whole time. Loved it.
4) Is the Hulk scared to come out since his beat down?
5) Do you think they randomly killed these stars IRL? Like a legit RNG that that popped back half alive, half dead of the stars in the films. Because that would be much cooler than it being planned. But i doubt they did it that way.
6) where the fuck was hawkeye?
1) That was Red Skull with the soul gem, correct?
2) They talk about Scarlet Witch being super Powerful....but she never showed it, really.
3) Thor was rocking it the whole time. Loved it.
4) Is the Hulk scared to come out since his beat down?
5) Do you think they randomly killed these stars IRL? Like a legit RNG that that popped back half alive, half dead of the stars in the films. Because that would be much cooler than it being planned. But i doubt they did it that way.
6) where the fuck was hawkeye?
She was their strongest hitter until Thor arrived, and she destroyed an infinity gem.
What are you talking about?
1. Yep it's his punishment
4. Yep it's the first time he's been beaten this badly
5. Hell no I bet they decided first that the main three has to stay alive for the story to come full circle then probably eliminated people probably too busy filmimg or too powerful like witch and strange some probably random or story
