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Merc_

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The ending art was like 90% of the appeal of that game. I mean, it had everything. Fox McCloud as a dad. Ridiculous racing careers. Edgelord Krystal.

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That shit's hilarious.
 

JetstreamRorschach

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I don't think the game necessarily has to start from the end of Command. We know that G-Zero exists in the StarFox universe due to that ending, yes, but they may end up involved in the world of racing for completely different reasons. What's more, it can be a reboot with no implications from previous installments as far as we know. It wouldn't be something new to the franchise.
 

feroca

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Something like ModNation, but with a story element would be great. Always wanted Nintendo to make a racer like ModNation with the live lobbies, customization, etc.
 

Henrik

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I know what Star Fox Command ending they needed to use to make a game that would be beloved by ResetEra:

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Star Dad: Fox needs to teach Marcus McCloud how to be an ace pilot like him. Play through a third person adventure game about legacy and family while Fox finally matures as a father figure.
The year of dad games.
 

My Cow Phelps

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Despite not being a huge fan of SF (only liked SF 64) and racing games in general (i have not loved one since F-Zero GX), i am actually really excited for this!

I expect this game to be as refreshing to the genre as some other were on 64 (F-Zero X, 1080° Snowboarding, Wave Race 64, Excitebike 64, Diddy Kong Racing... even Beetle Adventure Racing was very cool imho).

Really excited to fall in love with racing games again.
 

sinonobu

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I know what Star Fox Command ending they needed to use to make a game that would be beloved by ResetEra:

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Star Dad: Fox needs to teach Marcus McCloud how to be an ace pilot like him. Play through a third person adventure game about legacy and family while Fox finally matures as a father figure.
What can Star Fox learn from God of War
 

Ororo

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The reason they're doing it is because trying to revitalize the franchise with a remake (64 3D) and a reboot (Zero) didn't work so crazy spin-off seems like the only choice now.

I think Star Fox can rebound from this spin-off and have other "main" entries in the future but I'm not sure if F-Zero can rebound if this becomes a success.
 

Dark Cloud

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It's good this was leaked now. Imagine all the negative reactions when this would've been revealed at E3! People would've hated it because they have these high expectations of big open story driven games or whatever from Retro.
 

JetstreamRorschach

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It's good this was leaked now. Imagine all the negative reactions when this would've been revealed at E3! People would've hated it because they have these high expectations of big open story driven games or whatever from Retro.
Indeed. The same happened with Mario & Rabbids and people were generally surprised when they actually saw the game.
 

decoyplatypus

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I don't have a strong opinion on whether a Star Fox racer is a good use of Retro's talents. I like Nintendo's other racing franchises a lot. If it's got that kind of quality, I'm not going to complain that we didn't get fucking 3D Donkey Kong.

That being said, the fact that large swaths of Nintendo enthusiasts keep wanting Retro to be working on some kind of high-def, single-player adventure game (and then getting pissed when it's Donkey Kong) suggests that if Retro isn't going to be consistently making that type of game (for whatever reason, including cancellation due to poor progress), then Nintendo ought to find some other way to meet that demand.
 

Dolce

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All this thread really amounts to is "I dislike this genre; how can it be ambitious?"

Ambition is meaningless. What I care about is talent and a good damn game. It takes skill to make a good racing game, and the racing genre is a palette that can hold a diverse range of interesting ideas.

This thread is just another example of why I don't find it fun to discuss video games in places like this anymore. In the race to be "art" and "a serious medium", gaming is losing all of its diversity. I don't mean racially, or culturally, or in terms of gender. I'm very glad for the positive steps in all those fronts. But I mean in terms of having a wide range of mechanics and gameplay styles and ideas. If a game isn't the same damn thing as whatever's en vogue, it's not ambitious, or it's archaic, or whatever other buzzword people want to choke up. Gaming is losing what made it an artistic medium in the first place to me: a medium in which you can put a bunch of talented creators together, and they'd put their stamp and talent on an idea. A group of people truly fulfilling their visions.

Gaming has become so boring.
 

JetstreamRorschach

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Please tell me more about how people had high expectations for estemeed studio Ubi Milan's next game.
I can hand you links of people trashing one of the best (if not the best) 2D platformer ever due to it being developed by Retro, if that's the case.

Ffs, Retro started working on adventure fantasy and football games, from that they jumped to the Prime trilogy and then to Donkey Kong. Retro is more than Prime and people like what they do (that is, in fact, what they want to work on). If you don't like racing games, as many people who loved Prime but hate 2D platformers did, deal with it, let it go and wait to see if their next idea resonates with you.
 

Mr. Fantastic

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I can hand you links of people trashing one of the best (f not the best) 2D platformer ever due to it being developed by Retro, if that's the case.

Ffs, Retro started working on adventure fantasy and football games, from that they jumped to the Prime trilogy and then to Donkey Kong. Retro is more than Prime and people like what they do (that is, in fact, what they want to work on). If you don't like racing games, as many people who loved Prime but hate 2D platformers did, deal with it, let it go and wait to see if their next idea resonates with you.

Ok but that has nothing to do with the false equivalency many have been trotting out the Mario + Rabbids situation to be. They are completely different scenarios.
 

Dark Cloud

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Retro is going to give us something new. They're going to give us something unique with amazing polish and gameplay.

They're not making the usual cookie cutter games and you have to love and respect that. This game will probably be so fresh unlike anything we've ever seen.
 

RezVr2

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Just thinking about this for the day, and thinking of who's developing it. This is gonna be bad ass.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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On a scale from 1 to 10, how credible is that "leak"? I can't say I'm not disappointed, there's so much better to do than a racing game...
I know people like to use the example of Mario Rabbids, but I personally believe that the game would have been better without the Rabbids.
Also, I hope they finish the DK trilogy at some point.
 

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All this thread really amounts to is "I dislike this genre; how can it be ambitious?"

Ambition is meaningless. What I care about is talent and a good damn game. It takes skill to make a good racing game, and the racing genre is a palette that can hold a diverse range of interesting ideas.

This thread is just another example of why I don't find it fun to discuss video games in places like this anymore. In the race to be "art" and "a serious medium", gaming is losing all of its diversity. I don't mean racially, or culturally, or in terms of gender. I'm very glad for the positive steps in all those fronts. But I mean in terms of having a wide range of mechanics and gameplay styles and ideas. If a game isn't the same damn thing as whatever's en vogue, it's not ambitious, or it's archaic, or whatever other buzzword people want to choke up. Gaming is losing what made it an artistic medium in the first place to me: a medium in which you can put a bunch of talented creators together, and they'd put their stamp and talent on an idea. A group of people truly fulfilling their visions.

Gaming has become so boring.
Feel the same. :/
 
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On a scale from 1 to 10, how credible is that "leak"? I can't say I'm not disappointed, there's so much better to do than a racing game...
I know people like to use the example of Mario Rabbids, but I personally believe that the game would have been better without the Rabbids.
Also, I hope they finish the DK trilogy at some point.
But's going to have a hub world!
 

Meelow

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Not really? But it is the case that the F-Zero series has James McCloud as a racer (in human form).
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So it stands to reason that a Star Fox racing game could see reverse representation with Captain Falcon or someone showing up in furry form. Samus would be a bonus, though in her case, Retro has a lot of history and she'd just be a cool crossover inclusion.

We will finally get the Metroid X Star Fox Fusion Saga.
 

Metto

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Ok but that has nothing to do with the false equivalency many have been trotting out the Mario + Rabbids situation to be. They are completely different scenarios.
Nah the Mario + Rabbids comparison still applies because another part of the shock comes from the concept. A better example of a false equivalency is saying making a racing game is the equivalent of making a cooking or a CEO being a janitor.
 

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Retro is going to give us something new. They're going to give us something unique with amazing polish and gameplay.

They're not making the usual cookie cutter games and you have to love and respect that. This game will probably be so fresh unlike anything we've ever seen.
Man you had a change of heart so quick lol. You was #TeamWaste 60 pages ago
 

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Mr. Fantastic

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Nah the Mario + Rabbids comparison still applies because another part of the shock comes from the concept. A better example of a false equivalency is saying making a racing game is the equivalent of making a cooking or a CEO being a janitor.

I disagree. We wouldn't have a 76 page thread if Next Level Games was rumored to be working on a StarFox racer. We'd ALL be pretty happy, even.
 

srtrestre

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Getting very interested in this "Redline" everybody's posting about...
I mostly dislike anime (with some exceptions), but I'd recommend Redline to anyone who is even remotely interested any day of the week. Not because of the story, but because of the animation, which is superb.

It's a fun and gorgeous flick. Feels like something you'd find in the pages of Heavy Metal.
 

DigitalOp

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Nov 16, 2017
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If I had to make Star Fox Racing...

It would be fast and all futuristic like. Have some light combat mechanics. Borrowed FZero stuff (The universe is connected? Borrow the characters)

The DKRacing stuff sounds like expanded scope. It shouldn't be hard to make single player type courses.
 

Metto

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Oct 27, 2017
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I disagree. We wouldn't have a 76 page thread if Next Level Games was rumored to be working on a StarFox racer. We'd ALL be pretty happy, even.
Nah I'd still think there'd be some reservations on the concept. Like people could view this as another gimmicky Star Fox game, or how this is stepping on F-Zero's niche and it means we might not get F-Zero. This whole thing about Retro being above making a racing game is another dumb thing people are getting mad about this game that as of this point is barely a concept if anything Retro working on this game is probably the best part of the rumor because it implies a very high quality due to the pedigree of the studio it's being made from.
 
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This sounds weird as fuck. I am just seeing this thread for the first time today. Sounds like we're all assuming it's true then?
 

Adder

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Oct 28, 2017
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This sounds like something literally no one asked for.
Same for Metroid Prime. It is virtually a new IP but with Star Fox characters.
Assuming this game makes it to holiday 2018, that's five years of development on a sci-fi racer that should have been F-Zero, a racer that'll compete with Mario Kart (and lose). Disappointed if true.

I was hoping they'd make a 3D DK, or some new IP that would rival Uncharted, Gears and Halo for Nintendo, a single player FPS with a campaign and online multiplayer to help sell NSO.
And you know it will be worst than MK because you have beaten the game, of course.

Honestly, I do not believe this rumor, but the amount of saltiness every time something Nintendo is announced is crazy. And the most hilarious thijg is that some of the saltiness are from people who hates and despises Nintendo and will not play the game at all. Crazy.
 
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