ok maybe i'll try again and leave it for awhile. like i said it picked up the update info right away and it seemed like the CMD boxes on PC were doing stuff so...
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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ok maybe i'll try again and leave it for awhile. like i said it picked up the update info right away and it seemed like the CMD boxes on PC were doing stuff so...
I play a lot of games and only watch hulu, netflix and youtube on my 2017 B7A oled. the visuals are great minus some artifacts when you turn trumotion on and raise the levels up for tromotion dejudder. but blu rays and content streamed is great.
as far as burn in and retention, i have noticed literally none of that in the last 6-7 months of owning the tv. it is perfect image.
the way to avoid any issues is to not let the news channel or something like PC desktop background stay fixed in the same position for hours upon hours and days upon days. this is the difference between average users and reviewers / store fronts.
if you literally only watch netflix or youtube and play videogames , without ever really lingering on something, youll be perfect. And again, you have to linger on something for quite a while to get burn in or retention. the tv feels perfect.
to prevent issues, there are also quite a few safety options for this tv and 2017+/ you have a pixel refresher, a pixel mover so that it isnt fixed, you have a power saving options, light dimming, you have a hud moving feature, videogames now have transparent and moving heads up displays as well. there is a generous amount of safety options.
TL:DR. .. Youll be fine with gaming, youtube, netflix, hulu, and movies . youll have issues if you leave the news channel on with max brightness and color on 100 for 7- 14 days straight all day.
I think most people are fine with the 2017 B7 because it has DOLBY ATMOS and DOLBY VISION and HDR 10 / dolby PLUS all of these safety features. the 2018 tvs improve with the game mode being brighter. but again, this TV already is very bright and the game mode is amazing
Having purchased my 65c7 like 10 days ago now. What or where should i be looking fir lower prices to possibly take advantage of purchase price protection?
Also remember to turn on Enhanced HDMI for the ports and that ports 2&3 are the full bandwidth ones.
They will probably accept the listed price from a bait and switch seller like tvsuperstores.com
I have a quick question for y'all: my boss is having a hard time getting his PS4 Pro to output 4K on his new 4K TV. Is his Pioneer VSX-70 receiver the problem? I can't quite figure out if it's sufficient or not.
Reviews from back when the thing released claim it supports 4K, but I can't confirm what type of HDMI ports it actually has.
I think above all, everything needs to be HDMI 2.0, the tv input, the console / PC input and anything in between
For people who have owned an oled for awhile...does the compensation cycle actually help with the vertical banding? I think someone said there is a large one that occurs after 2000 hrs?
I'm starting to notice the vertical banding on mine. God of War in a lot of areas with dark interiors or muted colors (caves, indoors, Muselheim, Nilfheim, etc.) and noticed quite a bit while watching IT (2017) last night. Panning shots are kind of the worse due to DSE.
I'm starting to notice the vertical banding on mine. God of War in a lot of areas with dark interiors or muted colors (caves, indoors, Muselheim, Nilfheim, etc.) and noticed quite a bit while watching IT (2017) last night. Panning shots are kind of the worse due to DSE.
GoW was in particular, very revealing for the banding on my C7. Haven't had many issues other than that game. A couple other shows on Netflix too.
Not sure if there's an easy way to see hours of usage? I've had mine since June last year
There is under General > About TV or something like that...can't remember the specific menu names right now. Mine is at about 150.
I was looking for a cheap entry level 4K set, preferably Sony, and got the 50'' X690e on sale @ Best Buy over the weekend for $429.99 .
I know a lot of people have said the HDR isn't that great on this model but my fucking jaw hit the floor when I put FFXV on turned that ish on for the first time.
I know a lot of people have said the HDR isn't that great on this model but my fucking jaw hit the floor when I put FFXV on turned that ish on for the first time.
Only if it covers burn in. According to AVS the Best Buy warrenty does. I have not heard of the square trade warrenty covering it.
So the Samsung NU7100 seems to be a regression over the MU7000 from last year. Is there really no "good" entry level 40" 4K HDR TV this year?
My parents have almost exactly enough room for a 40" TV in their entertainment center with no bezel, which puts them in a tough place.
My parents have almost exactly enough room for a 40" TV in their entertainment center with no bezel, which puts them in a tough place.
I want to buy a new set for the living room, in the 60-65" range. I already own a samsung 4k tv the 4100 model and i'm not impressed with the HDR at all.
I need a set with impressivd HDR that doesn't cost the equivalent of a body part. Any ideas? Looking for something around 1,000 usd tops, i live in Mexico so anything over that will probably be crazy expensive here.
I found a Sony x900f for $1,500 is that a good set for what i want? Only 55" tho :(
I need a set with impressivd HDR that doesn't cost the equivalent of a body part. Any ideas? Looking for something around 1,000 usd tops, i live in Mexico so anything over that will probably be crazy expensive here.
I found a Sony x900f for $1,500 is that a good set for what i want? Only 55" tho :(
What do you guys think about bias lightning in a OLED? im experimenting with a little LED bulb D65(around 400 lumens) and l have to say, the picture its great, im rocking high oled ligh(212 nits) without any eye strain!!!!
I have a pretty strong aversion to bias lighting with an OLED due to the perfect blacks.
Just got back home from work and I decided to watch some more Sopranos on the Amazon app on my 4 day old A8F. TV just completely froze for like 3-5 minutes. I decided to turn off my ST5000 soundbar (acts as a receiver), and poof, tv reset itself. Some scary shit lmao
Darker where it counts. :)
I got an LG B7A from Costco in November and so far so good in terms of burn-in. I do notice some image retention if you let it sit on a static element like Plex or something, but it's only visible when you switch to a grey/white screen and it goes away pretty quickly. The contrast ratio alone is worth the bit of extra love and care that is required. Running retro consoles at 720p on an OLED through an OSSC is magnificent.
I'm pretty happy with the weight of the TV as well since it's sitting on top of a center channel speaker.
Oh no the blacks being actually black is super nice. But like playing Dragon Ball FighterZ, all of the colors just feel... Darker. Might just be something I get to get used to? I dunno. On a regular ol PS4.
What was your previous TV? My B7 is eye-searingly bright at night, I usually have to turn down the backlight to like 45. What's your backlight setting at?
My previous TV was more than 10 years old so maybe I was just used to dimmer TVs.
Ahhh some vizio thing. I can't remember the details, besides 1080p LED.
Got a C7 now. Tomorrow I'll write down all the numbers for my settings and check back in. Though I haven't actually changed anything besides turning off all the motion smoothing bullshit etc.
Really could be as simple as backlight haha. For some reason that didn't occur to me.
It's REALLY dim out of the box since it has that power saving mode enabled by default. Once you turn it off and turn up the backlight it should be pretty bright. In HDR it goes even brighter, 600+ nits which can get uncomfortably bright at night lol.
PS4 Pro games that support HDR look fantastic, The Last of Us looked amazing. Monster Hunter looked like shit though, terrible HDR implementation.
What do you guys think about bias lightning in a OLED? im experimenting with a little LED bulb D65(around 400 lumens) and l have to say, the picture its great, im rocking high oled ligh(212 nits) without any eye strain!!!!
I usually don't care for bias lighting, but that looks really good imo.
Okay cool I'll mess with that stuff tomorrow! Thanks!
I'm gonna get a Pro soon I think. Gonna play God of War when I do. Maybe replay Bloodborne...
I wish Xbox had Dolby Vision, I really can't afford a DV-compatible player right now.
What's your suggestion for eye-strain with an OLED? I'm not wanting a light on due to how it messes with the picture quality, but it is uncomfortable in a dark room unless the OLED light is super low. I've replaced the bulb in my corner lamp with a dim 250 lumen light and it helps, but still not ideal.
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Don't become one of the AVphile fools who chases after some Platonic ideal of perfect video or audio quality at the expense of everything else.
If watching in the dark gives you eye strain, and bias lighting fixes it, use bias lighting.
To all you proud OLED owners:
I've watched a video on YouTube where a guy was ranting about OLEDs. His main point was that for that price, problems with image retention and burn in shouldn't exist.
How is your experience with that stuff? Is it really a problem or is it nothing serious?
I've watched a video on YouTube where a guy was ranting about OLEDs. His main point was that for that price, problems with image retention and burn in shouldn't exist.
How is your experience with that stuff? Is it really a problem or is it nothing serious?
Has this become the new meta for if it's on TV it's real?
Some people will say:
Just don't leave your game stuck on the same image for days on end and you should be fine and 17' or 18' TV should be good.
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I have had burn in for just leaving my TV on the same content for a brief time.
Oled like plasma is subject to burn in, unfortunately to what degree is subject to a multitude of factors.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
Above is a good resource as far burn in goes.
If you're gonna play the same HUD intensive game for 15 hours a day, or leave the news on for hours at a time, don't get an OLED. Otherwise you should be fine. Plenty of people here with no problems, myself included. I even use it as a PC monitor every day since August.
Do people even bother reading the very first post of a thread before contributing to it? Seriously.
I read it when I first posted, which was some time ago so I think it left my mind again. Just wanted to hear if people here experienced problems themselves.
Thanks for the responses guys!
People have thought since the dawn of enthusiast groups forming around stuff like displays that you shouldn't have to deal with x, y and z because of how much money you spend.
They've been wrong about the same length of time.
This is certainly not unique to AV.
Now that I'm looking at OLEDs, I know I've asked about the value of the c7 over the b7, but is there any reason to go with the c8 over the b7? rtings still rates the b7a as their best TV, but some of the processing that the c8 does seems interesting.
I think the best of list has not been updated. Look at the numbers the c8 comes equal to or higher in every category.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/by-size/65-inch
B7 is currently a better value, once the C8 comes down in price it'll be a different story. TV's tend to get their first price drop in mid-late June so May is a really bad time to buy.
He updated the article after getting ahold of the QN65Q9FN:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...-the-tv-titans/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
"[UPDATE: Since writing the article below, I've been able to repeat my head to head tests using a Samsung 65-inch Q9FN rather than the 55-inch available to me for the original head to head. And strangely, despite both sets seemingly using the same number of dimming zones, the 65-inch model clearly looks brighter - especially in mid brightness color tones - than the 55 inch.
So much so that it essentially reverses the situation described in the original report below where the LG OLED could quite often look brighter than the Samsung set with mid-bright HDR content.
As a result, while the 55-inch Q9FN available in Europe is still a class-leadingly good 55-inch TV, if you decide to go the Q9FN route rather than the OLED route, I'd strongly recommend stepping up to Samsung's 65-inch model if finances allow.
I would also say that the latest Samsung firmware (1023 versus 1020 when I tested the 55Q9FN) seems to have raised slightly the 55-inch model's typical brightness level with HDR content. Though the 65-inch running the same 1023 firmware still clearly has a brightness advantage."
C8 is slightly brighter and has BFI. Up to you if it's worth the $400 or so for that. I wouldn't really worry that rtings has the B7 at 8.6 and the C8 at 8.5 or whatever. Probably just comes down to the C8 not being a very big advancement as far as OLEDs over the previous year models. 17 was really kind of the year LG just really put everything else to shame with their OLEDs, hence the very high rating for the B7. Now there is actually competition from FALDs worthy of discussion this year, but the C8 is still pretty much the best you can do.
Spot on. I was going to go for a B7 but will wait and hope the C8 comes down to about 2k.
Wait, the C8 is only $400 more? Def get the new set then. The B7 is £1400 here and the C8 £2999
That's with quite a deal calling in to buy dig or beach camera. Yeah the 55 C8 can be had for $1600, $1200 for the 55 B7. Imo it isn't worth $400 more but to each their own. I much prefer the stand on the B7 as well.
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