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KillLaCam

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know what it is but Viola, ZWEI and Groh are really uninspired from a design perspective.

I dunno, they phoned it in with those concepts and they also seem like they don't fit in the universe. It's like they are more modern looking or something.

Knowing Groh's origins as a nord, they could have done so much more.

Rant aside, his gameplay and weapon style are on point especially when compared to ZWEI/Viola which seem to have styles more closer to what you see in GG/BB.

I know it would be really hard to animate but a kusari gama style would make this franchise complete, for me at least.
I liked viola but Im not expecting to like any new characters after zwei and groh.
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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I like ZWEI and Grøh. They're cute.

Uninspired is the kid versions in SCV. Only Pat is somewhat interesting.
 

DrDogg

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Oct 25, 2017
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So what you guys think. New build at Combo Breaker? There will obviously be a new build at E3 and with CB pretty close before, there just has to be a new one

No. There will be a new build at E3 because it is E3. There won't be a new build at Combo Breaker, because it is not E3.

What Jay Shadow said.

If we were going to get a new build before E3 it probably would've been at that one-off event. Namco could've used that updated build at Texas Showdown and Combo Breaker before giving us a new build at E3.

At this point the best we can hope for is that any new characters announced at E3 (ZWEI, ZWEI, ZWEI and Yoshi) are included in the E3 build. Otherwise I think we're guaranteed at least Geralt, Ivy, Zasa and Sieg playable at E3.
 

Jer

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Oct 27, 2017
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We're up to like... almost double digit people asking for Amy now! Come on Namco, listen to the masses!
 

Freshmaker

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Oct 28, 2017
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I agree, and I'd love better frame data, but if they just give me variations on his Ein calls I'd be happy enough.

I could already do pretty well with low tier SC5 ZWEI. I made it through most of my Evo pool in winners just using ZWEI. I didn't have to switch to Yoshi until I got to the Japanese player in winnner's finals of my pool.
Eh. People wised up to Zwei after a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q2NZLHI0Vk

What Jay Shadow said.

If we were going to get a new build before E3 it probably would've been at that one-off event. Namco could've used that updated build at Texas Showdown and Combo Breaker before giving us a new build at E3.

At this point the best we can hope for is that any new characters announced at E3 (ZWEI, ZWEI, ZWEI and Yoshi) are included in the E3 build. Otherwise I think we're guaranteed at least Geralt, Ivy, Zasa and Sieg playable at E3.
I've heard from Bibulus (so take this as you will) that Sony reps told him that the reason there hasn't been a new build so far is the newer build has had annoying stability issues. It may appear out of nowhere if they manage to keep it from crashing.

I keep hearing rumors that a new build with everyone shown so far except Geralt is likely to appear soon too.
 
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Jadeinchains

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Apr 30, 2018
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Hey new here also really looking forward to SC6. :) Also hey Kasumilover69 didn't expect to see you here! :o
Also sorry Kasumi but...
Viola > Amy.

I don't get what people think is so special about Amy.
true... kinda at least. Really like Amy's style though even though It's really Raphael's.

Also please PC bring back Setsuka, It isn't fair that since Pat stole her Umbrella from her in SC5 she's yet to be seen since.

Edit: Omg and Yoshimitsu reveal! :D
 
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Cool to see the Yo Man return to the stage of history!


Hopefully in June we get more than two characters, because this roster needs some revealing.
 

Mr.Branding

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May 11, 2018
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I get more worried about Talim's inclusion by day.

I wouldn't be. They're keeping her reveal close to their chest to build hype. Namco/Project Soul know she's a popular character so they want to build hype with her reveal closer to the release date. She's a certainty in my book, but I'm genuinely curious. Why do most people like her? I love her tonfa style but the character is puerile and naive and I just can't get aboard.
 

Deleted member 18857

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I really hope the E3 build will reveal a lot more characters in one go.
There's 7 more characters that have never missed a game since their creation: Voldo, Cervantes, Maxi, Astaroth, Lizardman, Raphael, Tira. 9 If you count Hilde and Algol. Add one or two new characters, Talim, Mina and whoever they'll salvage from 5, and we're not even halfway through.
If the game has a solid roster and does release this year, they need to speed up. They can't keep announcing obvious picks once a month.

(June) : Here is.... Maxi !!!
 

Gradon

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like her moveset, and Raph (or Viola) isn't a good substitute at all.

I don't understand people wanting that crystal ball garbage back myself, so here we are.

The bolded part especially. She was my SCIV main.

I still like Viola though so would be happy with either return. They're basically completely different gameplay wise though.
 

SquirrelSoup

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd like Viola's playstyle a lot better if she just swung the ball around as her normal moves and couldn't place it. Of course she'd have to be rebalanced quite a bit to play like that.
 

BuBu Jenkins

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really hope the E3 build will reveal a lot more characters in one go.
There's 7 more characters that have never missed a game since their creation: Voldo, Cervantes, Maxi, Astaroth, Lizardman, Raphael, Tira. 9 If you count Hilde and Algol. Add one or two new characters, Talim, Mina and whoever they'll salvage from 5, and we're not even halfway through.
If the game has a solid roster and does release this year, they need to speed up. They can't keep announcing obvious picks once a month.

(June) : Here is.... Maxi !!!

This is exactly how i feel about these dull reveals, they're basically slowly drawing out the obvious choices of characters who everyone knows will be back from SCV who were already either in that game or had their fighting styles represented by another character. Zas is the only revealed character who wasn't in or had his style represented in SCV so far. Show us Talim, Yun-seong/Hwang, Mina or hell at least more brand new characters.
 

SieteBlanco

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't see Bamco being stupid enough to not have Talim in the game. Tekken 7 might have cut some characters, but it didn't cut anyone that won any popularity polls.
 

artemis

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Oct 28, 2017
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The design is not offensively bad like Tekken 7 Yoshi but what the hell is going on with the director, so far ENG voice acting sounds bad.

I don't see Bamco being stupid enough to not have Talim in the game. Tekken 7 might have cut some characters, but it didn't cut anyone that won any popularity polls.
All of you are overestimating Talim's "popularity".
 

Sanox

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yoshi looks cool but I wish his design was closer to SC1 Yoshi. They got a new take on his face but overall looks a bit too much like some mythical thing
 
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Nimby

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's not Mina, but Yo-man is one of my favorites so it's a pass. His SCV designs are much better than this though IMO, and it's weird because most of the designs in that game were hot garbo.
 

NeoChaos

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Oct 28, 2017
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All of you are overestimating Talim's "popularity".

I like the character, but this. And before people say "bu bu but popularity poll", those sorts of surveys for fighting game franchises always have the most popular characters who aren't in the latest installment at the top of them. Karin was topping Street Fighter character popularity polls during SFIV's lifetime, and the latest Street Fighter poll (whose results were released before the SFV S3 lineup was revealed) had Sakura, Blanka, Makoto and Q in the top 5.
 

Freshmaker

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Oct 28, 2017
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What is Namco doing? Last two reveals have been by accident. Now Yoshi's trailer is getting yanked? Horse is out of the barn gents.
 

Kasumilover69

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May 10, 2018
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Hey new here also really looking forward to SC6. :) Also hey Kasumilover69 didn't expect to see you here! :o
Also sorry Kasumi but...

true... kinda at least. Really like Amy's style though even though It's really Raphael's.

Also please PC bring back Setsuka, It isn't fair that since Pat stole her Umbrella from her in SC5 she's yet to be seen since.

Edit: Omg and Yoshimitsu reveal! :D

Oh I didn't know you had an account here! :-D and remember everyone Amy came before Viola XD I like viola but Amy I preferred since she's basically a little 10 year old girl whooping butt xD
 

Jadeinchains

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Apr 30, 2018
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Oh I didn't know you had an account here! :-D and remember everyone Amy came before Viola XD I like viola but Amy I preferred since she's basically a little 10 year old girl whooping butt xD

yep since today! :) And lol yeah I still really like Amy, I kinda go between them liking Viola more then Amy etc. ( and really they are also the same character so theres that too. )
 

Kasumilover69

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May 10, 2018
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yep since today! :) And lol yeah I still really like Amy, I kinda go between them liking Viola more then Amy etc. ( and really they are also the same character so theres that too. )
Yeah Namco tries so hard to make it seem like they are different when their similarities are clear as day, and DP? I don't see one XD

I also hope we'll see more news at E3 and maybe a character reveal and character creation showcase, iirc for SC5 they showed that mode at E3 but idk. I wonder what features and stuff they'll include. Hopefully they won't downgrade to Tekken 7 style and make pants a part of the shoes and such, I hate that element since it can be hit and miss with certain outfits >.>
 

issa

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Oct 26, 2017
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I don't understand people wanting that crystal ball garbage back myself, so here we are.
I wouldn't mind her coming back just with the claw.

but I'm genuinely curious. Why do most people like her? I love her tonfa style but the character is puerile and naive and I just can't get aboard.
I don't care for her personality nor character design, but her SC2 incarnation was the most fun character for me to play as. Even when I jump to my death I'm still having fun.
 

BKatastrophe

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Oct 28, 2017
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I wouldn't be. They're keeping her reveal close to their chest to build hype. Namco/Project Soul know she's a popular character so they want to build hype with her reveal closer to the release date. She's a certainty in my book, but I'm genuinely curious. Why do most people like her? I love her tonfa style but the character is puerile and naive and I just can't get aboard.
I like that she's purely good. She's completely untainted and uncompromising, while still being compassionate and forgiving. She's not compelled directly by some higher deity or needs to be convinced Soul Edge is evil. She didn't hit rock bottom or commit some terrible sin she needs redemption from. She didn't get possessed or anything like that. She just knows that it's evil and needs to be destroyed. There aren't any other characters like that, save for maybe Taki and Xianghua (to a lesser extent, Natsu and Leixia).

I also like her design and playstyle.
 

Kasumilover69

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May 10, 2018
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Right, same here. I do like her visual design. I guess with the claw being so short range they'd have to make it reeeeaaaally scary up close to make her effective though.
That wouldn't be a problem tbh, Taki is in the same boat in regards to range, she's bad at a distance but a monster up close xD plus Sophitia and Cassandra aren't that good at a distance but then again they alright at mid range
 

Valkerion

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Oct 29, 2017
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I would not be surprised to see the cross section of Talim fans and Marie Rose fans honestly.

Anywho yeah, Yoshi's voice was ehhh. Looks cool though. Still waiting for Hilde~