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Nov 17, 2017
12,864
I've been on 5 dates with this girl. Each date was very fun and we had some great laughs. Last date I wanted to kiss her, but chickened out and regret hasn't left my mind since. We're seeing each other again on monday. I'll kiss her this time, but should we do the relationship talk first? Should I tell her about my feelings for her? That she hasn't left my mind since our last date?
Yeah definitely don't do any of those things. Well except kissing her. Definitely kiss her. Leave out the relationship and feelings stuff for now.
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,192
UK
I've been on 5 dates with this girl. Each date was very fun and we had some great laughs. Last date I wanted to kiss her, but chickened out and regret hasn't left my mind since. We're seeing each other again on monday. I'll kiss her this time, but should we do the relationship talk first? Should I tell her about my feelings for her? That she hasn't left my mind since our last date?
I'd focus on finding the right moment to kiss than all the other things. One thing at a time. Find a point where you're both relaxed, look into each other's eyes, be quiet, move in, and if she reciprocates, touch her face, land one on her.
 

Gotdatmoney

Member
Oct 28, 2017
14,500
I'm not sure if this is the right place for it or not but I'm curious, does everyone here do yoga and likes hiking? Cuz everyone on Okcupid does.
According to OKC if you match 80% and higher with me then you probably do yoga and hike. I do neither.

Are these things really that popular or am I somehow getting matched up with people who do those things for some reason?

The vast majority of people like yoga and hiking in the same way people say they like movies. That is, "yeah I do but its not that serious". Of the people saying this maube 10% actually make that stuff a significant part of their lifestyle. Same thing as when people say gym or sports but the do these things very ocassionally.

Basically just be open to doing them. (More hiking than yoga. I've done yoga but its less of a date thing than hiking)
 

Mezentine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,977
I've been on 5 dates with this girl. Each date was very fun and we had some great laughs. Last date I wanted to kiss her, but chickened out and regret hasn't left my mind since. We're seeing each other again on monday. I'll kiss her this time, but should we do the relationship talk first? Should I tell her about my feelings for her? That she hasn't left my mind since our last date?
Kiss her. "I think about you a lot" is probably safe after five dates and tells her that you're really into her. Don't say anything more strongly then that, you're not at "are we in a relationship?" territory yet
 

Clay Davis

Member
Jan 8, 2018
38
Hi, everyone. Hope you're all doing well and having a good weekend thus far.

I have a question and wanted some feedback. Things are going extremely well with my girlfriend, but recently I've noticed that men are hitting on her even when I'm right there. She always tells them she's seeing someone and makes sure to try and show signs we're dating but it's happened at least twice when I've been right there. I'm not exactly very good looking and I know my girlfriend is leagues above me in terms of looks and attractiveness, but it still hurts to see it happen right in front of me.

She's really great at putting my mind at ease and we're at a point in the relationship where moving in together is being seriously discussed, but how can I handle the feeling of in-adequateness that comes with this? I don't want it to affect our relationship, I'm doing my best to try and compartmentalize these feelings and deal with them when I'm alone, but it's tough when it happens right in front of me and I know she noticed how upset I was the last time it happened.
 

jdstorm

Member
Jan 6, 2018
7,565
Hi, everyone. Hope you're all doing well and having a good weekend thus far.

I have a question and wanted some feedback. Things are going extremely well with my girlfriend, but recently I've noticed that men are hitting on her even when I'm right there. She always tells them she's seeing someone and makes sure to try and show signs we're dating but it's happened at least twice when I've been right there. I'm not exactly very good looking and I know my girlfriend is leagues above me in terms of looks and attractiveness, but it still hurts to see it happen right in front of me.

She's really great at putting my mind at ease and we're at a point in the relationship where moving in together is being seriously discussed, but how can I handle the feeling of in-adequateness that comes with this? I don't want it to affect our relationship, I'm doing my best to try and compartmentalize these feelings and deal with them when I'm alone, but it's tough when it happens right in front of me and I know she noticed how upset I was the last time it happened.

Hi Clay

congrats on your relationship going well enough to get to the moving in stage. As for your issue. its really a 2 part problem. Part 1 is that a bunch of guys see fit to hit on your girlfriend. Part 2 is how you feel about it.

Part 1 can't be fixed. Its just a bunch of entitled jerks trying to wreck your day because they wish your GF was dating them. All you can do in this situation is trust your GF and be considerate of the fact that this behavior is likely annoying her as well.

Part 2. Your insecurity.

This isn't about these guys hitting on your GF or even how much your GF loves you. Its about how you see yourself. You feel inadequate because you aren't comfortable in your own skin.

Ultimately thats something you will need to work on for yourself. Do something to give yourself a confidence boost. You could be a 10/10 on looks and if you still feel insecure a 1/10 guy hitting on your GF could make you feel bad.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
Hi, everyone. Hope you're all doing well and having a good weekend thus far.

I have a question and wanted some feedback. Things are going extremely well with my girlfriend, but recently I've noticed that men are hitting on her even when I'm right there. She always tells them she's seeing someone and makes sure to try and show signs we're dating but it's happened at least twice when I've been right there. I'm not exactly very good looking and I know my girlfriend is leagues above me in terms of looks and attractiveness, but it still hurts to see it happen right in front of me.

She's really great at putting my mind at ease and we're at a point in the relationship where moving in together is being seriously discussed, but how can I handle the feeling of in-adequateness that comes with this? I don't want it to affect our relationship, I'm doing my best to try and compartmentalize these feelings and deal with them when I'm alone, but it's tough when it happens right in front of me and I know she noticed how upset I was the last time it happened.

Are you actually sure their hitting on her or it's just friendly banter? Your lens of insecurity could be making you view what are normal interactions in a different light. If your about to move in together then she's decided you are the one she wants to be with so take that as confidence in your relationship. If you don't get a handle on your insecurity it will eventually doom your relationship anyway. Attractive women or in fact most women probably get hit on all the time by guys taking a chance, even if the woman does not realize it. It's part of life and part of having an attractive partner.
 

HououinKyouma

The Wise Ones
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,366
Curious what Era's experience is with dating someone with opposing political beliefs. Interestingly enough, all of the girls I've been with in the past have been roughly on the same wavelength as me in that area (some slightly deviations, of course). However, this one girl I've been talking to is a pretty significant Trump supporter.

Normally, I don't think this would bother me; I consider myself in the middle of the political spectrum, leaning left. There's probably a very good chance this won't be the thing that 'breaks" the potential relationship, but it's certainly a unique position for me.

Be interested to get your guys' thoughts and experiences with this.
 

vrcsix

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,083
I give a rats ass about politics, and I'm likely just not gonna care about the position - politics in general are a major turnoff.

I'm waiting for my friend to show up with his wife and her little sister. Thai, 19 y/o, shy, pretty much doesn't speak any English.
 

Advc

Member
Nov 3, 2017
2,632
The absolute frustration of always having the nicest talks with wonderful girls, but living 23094782984732 km away from you, they wish you lived close to hang out and do all sorts of cool things together while the girls on your city pretty much don't give a flying fuck about you, they either come with excuses to not go out, or completely ignore you. There has to be some kind of scientific explanation because it happens to me pretty much all the time and it happened again just now with this gorgeous and kind girl that unfortunately lives in another city wich I used to talk a while ago. She sent me a message yesterday out of nothing and we've been talking nicely after that, even though I fucking hate texting. Not fair, man. Not fair...
 

Cow Mengde

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,722
I asked out a girl a couple of months ago. She's now starting her modeling career. It's not every day someone can claim to have asked a model out. Granted, I wasn't successful, but that still counts, dammit!
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,704
DFW
Eh, models. I dated a Brazilian model for a while.

Gotta shoot your shot regardless — and good on you for taking it.

Anyway, had a fantastic day with my girlfriend at Preakness today and we're going to dinner with her family now.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
There was a model that was interested in me but she was too young for a serious relationship I was looking for. I set her up with a mate of mine and they ended up getting married.
 

Cow Mengde

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,722
Eh, models. I dated a Brazilian model for a while.

Gotta shoot your shot regardless — and good on you for taking it.

Yeah, I'm glad I took my shot even though I knew she was waaaaay out of my league. There's no pressure when you have no expectations. Besides, it's not everyday you can ask out a Lithuanian girl in China.
 

vrcsix

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,083
I'm waiting for my friend to show up with his wife and her little sister. Thai, 19 y/o, shy, pretty much doesn't speak any English.

So we went bowling. By the time we left the bowling alley we were holding hands, during dinner we were making out, and as we left the restaurant she was nibbling at my chest. I wanted to carry her home at that point.

Didn't though. We ended up at their place, playing Nintendo Switch. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is pretty legit.

But she wants to see me again. Even texted me goodnight and wanted to be sure I made it home. Damn. It's like I stepped into another dimension of dating.
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,483
Chicago
you don't do 10 years with someone if you don't love them (platonic or romantic). You have the life history and you have an amazing romantic connection.

you definitely love her romantically. don't waste any more time then you already have and tell her. Then go kiss in the rain or turn on the sprinklers or something because this story is too cute.

It's surely starting to feel this way.

On our last date earlier this week, we got breakfast and went to a museum. It was an amazing time. We are in a pretty good spot and i really do feel that we feel deeply for each other.

She's already kinda told me how she feels (says she thinks she might be failing in love with be), however we both agreed to take things slow. She said she trusts me but she's not sure about getting into another committed relationship about 7 months or so after getting cheated on after a 9yr relationship, and having to call off a wedding. Which i understand. But judging from our last day together, she might be considering getting serious pretty soon.

The biggest thing is, she also has all this stuff she wants to do like travel on her own, which I get. But she fears that getting together with me might make her complacent. Even though I support her want for independence, and think she should have memories that are her own and aren't tied to someone. She asked her brother who is really close to me about the potential of me and her getting together, and he said it was "too soon" for the both of us. But he doesn't really know where we are with our break ups or that we are already sleeping together and going out on dates.

I'm seeing her for breakfast tomorrow, and we will be seeing Deadpool 2 later that day. I'm looking forward to it.
 

jdstorm

Member
Jan 6, 2018
7,565
It's surely starting to feel this way.

On our last date earlier this week, we got breakfast and went to a museum. It was an amazing time. We are in a pretty good spot and i really do feel that we feel deeply for each other.

She's already kinda told me how she feels (says she thinks she might be failing in love with be), however we both agreed to take things slow. She said she trusts me but she's not sure about getting into another committed relationship about 7 months or so after getting cheated on after a 9yr relationship, and having to call off a wedding. Which i understand. But judging from our last day together, she might be considering getting serious pretty soon.

The biggest thing is, she also has all this stuff she wants to do like travel on her own, which I get. But she fears that getting together with me might make her complacent. Even though I support her want for independence, and think she should have memories that are her own and aren't tied to someone. She asked her brother who is really close to me about the potential of me and her getting together, and he said it was "too soon" for the both of us. But he doesn't really know where we are with our break ups or that we are already sleeping together and going out on dates.

I'm seeing her for breakfast tomorrow, and we will be seeing Deadpool 2 later that day. I'm looking forward to it.

Wow. hope you don't have trust issues, because you are going to have to be very honest with her and take a huge risk.

Essentially you have to tell her that you love her, that you see a future with her. Then you need to encourage her to go find herself and hope the person she finds still has room in their new life for you.

from the sounds of it she will.

good luck.

ps. in this situation its highly likely that "I think i'm falling in love with you" really means "I'm starting to realize that i have been in love with you for 10 years and its freaking me the fuck out.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
So we went bowling. By the time we left the bowling alley we were holding hands, during dinner we were making out, and as we left the restaurant she was nibbling at my chest. I wanted to carry her home at that point.

Didn't though. We ended up at their place, playing Nintendo Switch. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is pretty legit.

But she wants to see me again. Even texted me goodnight and wanted to be sure I made it home. Damn. It's like I stepped into another dimension of dating.
That went fast, and she does not even speak English. Have you met her before?
 

Subpar Scrub

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,576
Are these things really that popular or am I somehow getting matched up with people who do those things for some reason?

Nah, people just say that because it's a safe way of saying "I don't binge 12 hours of Netflix every day". It's super boring though, it's the same with how 40% of girls like putting "I love to laugh and travel" in their profiles... like... yeah, who doesn't?

There are some golden quotes in this video to use for your Tinder profile.



"Who so binds to himself a joy, doth its winged life destroy"


Oh god it hurts
 

Clay Davis

Member
Jan 8, 2018
38
Thank you for the replies, jdstorm and Alwayscrazybacon

I have been working really hard on overcoming my self confidence issues, they are much better than they were when we first started dating and I feel much more comfortable in my own skin, but things like what happened can set me back, so there's definitely lots of room for more improvement.

Alwayscrazybacon, I did wonder if it was my insecurity after the first time, but the second time was so blatant in that it was impossible to view it anything other than him hitting on her. We were at a small restaurant, an older guy sat down at the table next to us and he kept glancing at her, he would make comments asking if her food tasted good as he wasn't sure what to order and as we were leaving, he gave her his card and said to call him sometime. She shot back that I was her boyfriend and gave his card back, he gave me a look which felt like him saying without that you're with this loser. It hurt and I know she noticed. We talked about it the next day and she said I shouldn't care what anything thinks, she loves me and that's all that matters, that I shouldn't let entitled assholes ruin my mood, but it still hurts.

I know it affects her a lot too and I try not to be selfish in making it about myself, but it does set me back, to think that others view me in such a way. I know it shouldn't and I am trying to reach a point where it doesn't, but it's slow progress.
 

DFG

Self requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,591
I'm curious, how do you guys find dates now a days? I've been out of it for two years now and I've completely forgot how to do any of that stuff.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
I'm curious, how do you guys find dates now a days? I've been out of it for two years now and I've completely forgot how to do any of that stuff.
Open ended question there, maybe take some time and start reading this topic from page one to catch up with many first hand accounts to get some idea of what its like. Honestly, its not changed much in just two years. Good photos and a well thpught out online dating profile will get you up and running quick enough.
 

LightEntite

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,079
I've been on 5 dates with this girl. Each date was very fun and we had some great laughs. Last date I wanted to kiss her, but chickened out and regret hasn't left my mind since. We're seeing each other again on monday. I'll kiss her this time, but should we do the relationship talk first? Should I tell her about my feelings for her? That she hasn't left my mind since our last date?

yikes


no

just get to first base and enjoy the ride, dont make it awkward

A girl asked for my dog's number. (She's a corgi and gets a ridiculous amount of attention)

I laughed it off and left.

Send help

These are my favorite posts in this thread

not because of how badly you missed the potential opportunity

but because when I read this, I just imagine the girl's facial expression after her bricked flirt attempt and it just always makes me laugh
 
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DFG

Self requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,591
Open ended question there, maybe take some time and start reading this topic from page one to catch up with many first hand accounts to get some idea of what its like. Honestly, its not changed much in just two years. Good photos and a well thpught out online dating profile will get you up and running quick enough.
Thanks I'll read up on some pages. I do want to mention i never done online dating before. Any other suggestions will help out. Appreciate it :)
 

jdstorm

Member
Jan 6, 2018
7,565
Thank you for the replies, jdstorm and Alwayscrazybacon

I have been working really hard on overcoming my self confidence issues, they are much better than they were when we first started dating and I feel much more comfortable in my own skin, but things like what happened can set me back, so there's definitely lots of room for more improvement.

Alwayscrazybacon, I did wonder if it was my insecurity after the first time, but the second time was so blatant in that it was impossible to view it anything other than him hitting on her. We were at a small restaurant, an older guy sat down at the table next to us and he kept glancing at her, he would make comments asking if her food tasted good as he wasn't sure what to order and as we were leaving, he gave her his card and said to call him sometime. She shot back that I was her boyfriend and gave his card back, he gave me a look which felt like him saying without that you're with this loser. It hurt and I know she noticed. We talked about it the next day and she said I shouldn't care what anything thinks, she loves me and that's all that matters, that I shouldn't let entitled assholes ruin my mood, but it still hurts.

I know it affects her a lot too and I try not to be selfish in making it about myself, but it does set me back, to think that others view me in such a way. I know it shouldn't and I am trying to reach a point where it doesn't, but it's slow progress.

Its ok to be a bit selfish because ultimately this issue is 100% yours and the people it hurts are you and your girlfriend. The asshole hitting on your GF is hitting on every girl he see's. He ultimately doesn't give a shit about anyone in this situation aside from himself.

Why does it matter to you if some smug asshole thinks you are a loser? You like everyone definitely have flaws, but don't be taking unsolicited negative advice from people who don't have your best interests at heart. Trust the advice of your people. the people who look out for you. the people in your world who believe in you. They are the people who matter.

Beyond that there is an issue in your relationship this is causing. You're doubts about you are signaling to your GF that you don't trust her judgement and that you are valuing the opinion of asshole guys over hers. You can tell her you trust her but actions speak louder then words in this case.

So what should you do? Be a man of action. Start taking some steps to improve your self image. Aside from the usual work out and eat better, I'd suggest going shopping with your GF. How you see yourself in the mirror. Your Haircut, Facial Hair, Clothing and Accessories that is very literally how you see yourself. The right clothes and accessories for you can literally change how you see yourself for the better.

As a bonus, by asking your GF for help in this area you are showing with actions that you trust her judgement and value her opinion.

Good Luck.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,159
China
did wonder if it was my insecurity after the first time, but the second time was so blatant in that it was impossible to view it anything other than him hitting on her. We were at a small restaurant, an older guy sat down at the table next to us and he kept glancing at her, he would make comments asking if her food tasted good as he wasn't sure what to order and as we were leaving, he gave her his card and said to call him sometime. She shot back that I was her boyfriend and gave his card back, he gave me a look which felt like him saying without that you're with this loser.
You know, I've seen and known couples that to look at them you'd think the guy with her was a friend/brother/coworker due to the fact that he would melt into the background and would not engage in the conversation. Thats probably something you need to work on is your interactions with her and others when you are in public. That guy with the card had no idea you were a couple, she did not mention it and you did not get involved with the conversation so he made a resonable play based on those interactions.
I had a best female friend and when we were both out together clubbing nobody would hit on either of us as people assumed we were an actual couple based on our interactions. We had to seperate for a while on nights out to get some interest. So it goes both ways.
 

vrcsix

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,083
That went fast, and she does not even speak English. Have you met her before?

Nope, this was the first time. And yeah, super fast. My friend was telling me "you have to court these girls a long time before you can move past first base", to which I almost replied "dude, I reckon I could take her to my apartment right after this dinner because she was fucking stroking my crotch just a moment ago".

We're seeing each other again on Wednesday. Just the two of us this time. A blanket under the evening sun, a bottle of white wine, some seafood delicacies, and Google Translate.
 

m4st4

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
5,505
So I'm talking to this cute girl (understatement) who is my neighbour for well over a year, and I'm talking to her for the first time due to her being on the 1st floor and I'm two floors above her. I also have a dog so that's always a solid excuse for anyone to start a conversation... So far I've only seen her from afar during summertime and always though I should probably approach her and start talking lol.

Anyway, mid conversation, while my goddamned dog is trying to bite her fingers off for no reason at all other than he's still too young and akita inu breed, anybody outside of the family circle is a potential threat... I realize she's somehow familiar. I'm sure I know her from somewhere. So finally we say goodbyes and she mentions both her name and proposes a coffee. Of yourse, I say yes, sure, that would be lively.

I come back to my app, then it hits me. I knew this person, talked to her on numerous occassions and we were even quite close back then... only virtually. Probably around ten years or so, back when Facebook was still this cool new thing, I distinctly remember talking to her via messenger and thinking to myself how she was way out of my league. She was the ideal woman in my head back then.

And now it seems, in a weird mixture of life, I'm her new neighbour... and she proposed a coffee. And I was still starstruck just talking to her, not knowing any of this. Idk what happens next... been in a cocoon so to speak since last year fiasco and this is way out of my comfort zone right now.
 

Sedated

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Apr 13, 2018
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Nope, this was the first time. And yeah, super fast. My friend was telling me "you have to court these girls a long time before you can move past first base", to which I almost replied "dude, I reckon I could take her to my apartment right after this dinner because she was fucking stroking my crotch just a moment ago".

We're seeing each other again on Wednesday. Just the two of us this time. A blanket under the evening sun, a bottle of white wine, some seafood delicacies, and Google Translate.
Wtf that speed sir
 

Astral

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
28,115
When I was dating this Thai lady, she let me eat out on the first date. Maybe it's a Thai thing.
 

Addie

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,704
DFW
When I was dating this Thai lady, she let me eat out on the first date. Maybe it's a Thai thing.
Did you have mango and sticky rice for dessert?

/s

It's not a Thai thing.

It's just that some people are sex-positive and want sex.

I'm pretty sure a third of my first dates ended up with mutual oral.
 

vrcsix

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,083

I know, right? In a way it's actually kind of relaxing. Most of my dating stress comes from pacing. This girl is so far out front that I don't have to worry much about the speed at which I'm cruising. The only thing I worry about is that I will end up hurting her if she invests a lot so rapidly.

Isn't she too young to drink?

Sweden, so no. She's not allowed to buy alcohol until she's 20, but allowed to drink starting at 18. I cannot buy her a bottle, but I can offer a glass. Heck, seeing her knocking back the tequila rose her brother-in-law was pouring her last night, I'd say a glass with the food is fine.

jesus vrc. Dunno how you do it. Dunno how anyone gets in that fast.

Haha, it's all on her. I pretty much just did the usual "break the touch barrier" by squeezing in a few high-fives and then a celebratory hug when she bowled a strike, and then reacted to her moves.
 

AM_LIGHT

Member
Oct 30, 2017
3,725
So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).
 

Valkerion

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,246
So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).

If there is some connection there then nah I'd say. If shes appealing (other than age) in personality and seems like she can be with you comfortably then go for it. Same for you however, if there is a connection that does not include age gaps then there should be no problem.


Also, having a weird time initiating a first kiss/show of affection with this lady I've been meeting for about 3 weeks now. (well three times, once a week so far) Theres something there, and I can tell shes waiting for it... but something is always.... off feeling when I am about to do it. Never had this problem before lol.
 

Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
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Oct 25, 2017
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Haha, it's all on her. I pretty much just did the usual "break the touch barrier" by squeezing in a few high-fives and then a celebratory hug when she bowled a strike, and then reacted to her moves.

Grats. Guess it really is down to the other person haha. Hope stuff works out.
 

Custódio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,901
Brazil, Unaí/MG
So, I'm dating this girl for a little more than a year now. I like her a lot, but I'm in a point where I think things aren't going to work between us. I don't have a lot of dating experience so I guess I'm posting here to see if I'm blowing things out of proportion and those things are actually normal.

So, the big issues first:
- I grew up as a Catholic, read the whole bible and studied on my own until I decided the whole thing wasn't for me. She's very ative on the Baptist Church. On day one I told her that I wouldn't go to the church after she asked me and it looked like she didn't mind it that much because, well, she kept going out with me! Turns out it's very important for her that I go to the church with her, what I actually do from time to time. I even spent New Year's Eve there with her without complaining. We live far from each other (2 hours by car from my house, 1 hour from the place I work three times a week) so it's not often that I'm in a position to go with her and she doesn't mind it, but if I'm staying there she gets very upset when I don't go with her. Right now keep going there is not a big issue since it's not that often, but in the future if we decided to live together/get married it can become annoying.

- Having kids. When we first started dating she sad she didn't mind not having kids. Her last boyfriend really wanted to have kids and she was the one that didn't want it. A couple of months into the relationship she changed her mind. She is still kind of ok not having them and just adopting in the future, but from time to time she brings this subject back. Keep in mind that she's 36, so if we wanted to have kids it couldn't take long and this really is the issue for me. I don't even know for how long we'll keep dating, let alone having kids! I fear that even if we stay together without children, she would start resenting it.

- Trust issues. Apparently her last boyfriend kept receiving texts from his ex girlfriend and now she's insecure. She get's mad if I take my cellphone for the bathroom, for instance. She says it's weird because it seems that I'm doing something that I don't want her to see and no one else she knows do it, which is a pity because I like to take my time when I go to the bathroom so the cellphone is really useful even for browsing ERA or whatnot but the real problem is that I feel accused. Once we went to the graduation party of my best friend's wife, and I posted a photo montage on facebook. She got upset because the big picture in the center was of me with my friend's wife, and the picture with her was just a small one on the side. She says that people would think that that girl was my girlfriend and not her. Apparently when we are out I have a tendency of looking around to much (?) and that upsets her as well. This is usually not a real problem on a daily basis. She doesn't look at my phone, doesn't have my passwords and neither keeps track of things I do when I on my city and she is on hers. I discovered that I'm really not jealous, at all.

We have talked at length about the issues above, and it doesn't look like there are solutions for this problem besides just accepting them.

Minor issues:
- She wants to live in a flat. I want a house.
- She likes birds. I like cats and dogs.
- She only listen to gospel music on her own (but don't mind that I put other kinds of songs).
- She doesn't have hobbies, at all. There's nothing that makes she have that strong urge to get out of work and spend time doing something that she loves. And I really mean nothing. For instance, It's years since she last saw a movie because she wanted to see that movie instead of just wanting to go out or to pass time at home. She doesn't even have a netflix account! This is a problem because it's actually kind of hard to talk and do things that she loves that aren't related to the church. Also, and this one is on me, I find it very difficult to talk to her about things that I love and that she doesn't care. I noticed that I always had these friends that I would talk about games, those that I would talk about music, etc, instead of trying to get the one that is into music to play games and so on. Any tips on this point, even for possible future girlfriends, would be appreciated!
- When we face an external problem that makes she upset, for instance, we forgot where we parked the car and had to look for it for a few minutes, I feel that she becomes really rude and this really affect me when it's not just one and done, but instead she keeps the rudeness on and on.

I know that no one is perfect, and as I write this I realize that I'm just listing things that I don't like about her, probably waiting for validation of strangers on the internet. That wasn't what I was trying to do when I started writing this post. That are tons of things I like about her as well and I'm sure that I'm far from perfect. I thought about not actually posting this, but hey, some cold internet sincerity sometimes is what we need!
 
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Curious what Era's experience is with dating someone with opposing political beliefs. Interestingly enough, all of the girls I've been with in the past have been roughly on the same wavelength as me in that area (some slightly deviations, of course). However, this one girl I've been talking to is a pretty significant Trump supporter.

Normally, I don't think this would bother me; I consider myself in the middle of the political spectrum, leaning left. There's probably a very good chance this won't be the thing that 'breaks" the potential relationship, but it's certainly a unique position for me.

Be interested to get your guys' thoughts and experiences with this.
This should definitely bother you.

"I don't mind that they're a Trump supporter."

There's limits on political indifference.

So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).
Doesn't hurt to ask. My best friend has only dated guys over 30 since her senior year of college.

It was jarring at first, but when I look at guys like myself that are her age, it makes sense.
 

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So, I'm dating this girl for a little more than a year now. I like her a lot, but I'm in a point where I think things aren't going to work between us. I don't have a lot of dating experience so I guess I'm posting here to see if I'm blowing things out of proportion and those things are actually normal.

So, the big issues first:
- I grew up as a Catholic, read the whole bible and studied on my own until I decided the whole thing wasn't for me. She's very ative on the Baptist Church. On day one I told her that I wouldn't go to the church after she asked me and it looked like she didn't mind it that much because, well, she kept going out with me! Turns out it's very important for her that I go to the church with her, what I actually do from time to time. I even spent New Year's Eve there with her without complaining. We live far from each other (2 hours by car from my house, 1 hour from the place I work three times a week) so it's not often that I'm in a position to go with her and she doesn't mind it, but if I'm staying there she gets very upset when I don't go with her. Right now keep going there is not a big issue since it's not that often, but in the future if we decided to live together/get married it can become annoying.

- Having kids. When we first started dating she sad she didn't mind not having kids. Her last boyfriend really wanted to have kids and she was the one that didn't want it. A couple of months into the relationship she changed her mind. She is still kind of ok not having them and just adopting in the future, but from time to time she brings this subject back. Keep in mind that she's 36, so if we wanted to have kids it couldn't take long and this really is the issue for me. I don't even know for how long we'll keep dating, let alone having kids! I fear that even if we stay together without children, she would start resenting it.

- Trust issues. Apparently her last boyfriend kept receiving texts from his ex girlfriend and now she's insecure. She get's mad if I take my cellphone for the bathroom, for instance. She says it's weird because it seems that I'm doing something that I don't want her to see and no one else she knows do it, which is a pity because I like to take my time when I go to the bathroom so the cellphone is really useful even for browsing ERA or whatnot but the real problem is that I feel accused. Once we went to the graduation party of my best friend's wife, and I posted a photo montage on facebook. She got upset because the big picture in the center was of me with my friend's wife, and the picture with her was just a small one on the side. She says that people would think that that girl was my girlfriend and not her. Apparently when we are out I have a tendency of looking around to much (?) and that upsets her as well. This is usually not a real problem on a daily basis. She doesn't look at my phone, doesn't have my passwords and neither keeps track of things I do when I on my city and she is on hers. I discovered that I'm really not jealous, at all.

We have talked at length about the issues above, and it doesn't look like there are solutions for this problem besides just accepting them.

Minor issues:
- She wants to live in a flat. I want a house.
- She likes birds. I like cats and dogs.
- She only listen to gospel music on her own (but don't mind that I put other kinds of songs).
- She doesn't have hobbies, at all. There's nothing that makes she have that strong urge to get out of work and spend time doing something that she loves. And I really mean nothing. For instance, It's years since she last saw a movie because she wanted to see that movie instead of just wanting to go out or to pass time at home. She doesn't even have a netflix account! This is a problem because it's actually kind of hard to talk and do things that she loves that aren't related to the church. Also, and this one is on me, I find it very difficult to talk to her about things that I love and that she doesn't care. I noticed that I always had these friends that I would talk about games, those that I would talk about music, etc, instead of trying to get the one that is into music to play games and so on. Any tips on this point, even for possible future girlfriends, would be appreciated!
- When we face an external problem that makes she upset, for instance, we forgot where we parked the car and had to look for it for a few minutes, I feel that she becomes really rude and this really affect me when it's not just one and done, but instead she keeps the rudeness on and on.

I know that no one is perfect, and as I write this I realize that I'm just listing things that I don't like about her, probably waiting for validation of strangers on the internet. That wasn't what I was trying to do when I started writing this post. That are tons of things I like about her as well and I'm sure that I'm far from perfect. I thought about not actually posting this, but hey, some cold internet sincerity sometimes is what we need!
No hobbies while you have plenty and can't share with her, inconsistency on whether to have kids at such an age, very jealous, long periods of rudeness, see no solutions to problems after talking about them, and quite the long distance. Bunch of red flags here without even mentioning religiosity, I don't see a healthy relationship here if it continues.
 

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So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).
conventional wisdom says half your age + 7 is OK. At 32 dating a 23 year old is ok. Although its right on the borderline. I'd say go for it
 

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So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).

It's a bit young, but it's fine. My girlfriend's 7 years younger than me. The age-related teasing can be fun, but it ultimately doesn't matter. The fact is, most guys in their early to mid-20s are complete shitshows, and smart girls that actually want relationships realize this.
 

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- I grew up as a Catholic, read the whole bible and studied on my own until I decided the whole thing wasn't for me. She's very ative on the Baptist Church. On day one I told her that I wouldn't go to the church after she asked me and it looked like she didn't mind it that much because, well, she kept going out with me! Turns out it's very important for her that I go to the church with her, what I actually do from time to time. I even spent New Year's Eve there with her without complaining. We live far from each other (2 hours by car from my house, 1 hour from the place I work three times a week) so it's not often that I'm in a position to go with her and she doesn't mind it, but if I'm staying there she gets very upset when I don't go with her. Right now keep going there is not a big issue since it's not that often, but in the future if we decided to live together/get married it can become annoying.
If you do not believe and don't want to go to church, you need to put your foot down here. I'm technically catholic and may go to church once in a while for a nap for social/cultural reasons, but I refuse to agree to any sort of agreements in terms of churchgoing frequency. If your beliefs or lack of beliefs are important, you need to be adamant here. You will respect her religion, but she needs to respect your stance. No guilt-tripping, period. Otherwise this will not work out or you will resent her.
- Having kids. When we first started dating she sad she didn't mind not having kids. Her last boyfriend really wanted to have kids and she was the one that didn't want it. A couple of months into the relationship she changed her mind. She is still kind of ok not having them and just adopting in the future, but from time to time she brings this subject back. Keep in mind that she's 36, so if we wanted to have kids it couldn't take long and this really is the issue for me. I don't even know for how long we'll keep dating, let alone having kids! I fear that even if we stay together without children, she would start resenting it.
The way you describe it, having kids with her early sounds like it would be a mistake. If you don't want to have kids early in the relationship, do not buckle on this. At all. Make this extremely clear so that she knows exactly where you stand. If this becomes a source of resentment, this is on her. It is up to her to break up with you if this is a dealbreaker.

BTW, she will want the kids to be baptised and go to church. You will be guilt-tripped into going to church to be a good example. See above.

- Trust issues. Apparently her last boyfriend kept receiving texts from his ex girlfriend and now she's insecure. She get's mad if I take my cellphone for the bathroom, for instance. She says it's weird because it seems that I'm doing something that I don't want her to see and no one else she knows do it, which is a pity because I like to take my time when I go to the bathroom so the cellphone is really useful even for browsing ERA or whatnot but the real problem is that I feel accused. Once we went to the graduation party of my best friend's wife, and I posted a photo montage on facebook. She got upset because the big picture in the center was of me with my friend's wife, and the picture with her was just a small one on the side. She says that people would think that that girl was my girlfriend and not her. Apparently when we are out I have a tendency of looking around to much (?) and that upsets her as well. This is usually not a real problem on a daily basis. She doesn't look at my phone, doesn't have my passwords and neither keeps track of things I do when I on my city and she is on hers. I discovered that I'm really not jealous, at all.
Bathroom-ERA represent! She sounds pretty immature here, but she's 36. So, erm, this is a pretty big issue, in addition to the other stuff.


it's actually kind of hard to talk and do things that she loves that aren't related to the church.
This is actually a really big deal. If church is her life, I really don't see how you can make it work out if you don't even want to go to church. This is way bigger than her not liking videogames or whatever.

I know that no one is perfect, and as I write this I realize that I'm just listing things that I don't like about her, probably waiting for validation of strangers on the internet. That wasn't what I was trying to do when I started writing this post. That are tons of things I like about her as well and I'm sure that I'm far from perfect. I thought about not actually posting this, but hey, some cold internet sincerity sometimes is what we need!
It's not about whether she's perfect or not, what you describe sounds like major incompatibilities.
 
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So guys in your opinion is 9 years age difference too much for a relationship , there is this girl i am kind of interested and i get the feeling she has something for me but she is 23 and i kinda feel like a grandpa compared to her (32).
It's OK, but at her age In my experience girls can be very fickle when dating older guys. Don't over-invest and just have fun. My wifes ten years younger than me so it can work out, you just have to learn where the cut off date is that she might not be able to reference what you topics you are talking about.