• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Link

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,623
After the SHIELD and B99 finales, I almost wish they weren't renewed. Perfect endings for both of them.
 

Curler

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,606
After the SHIELD and B99 finales, I almost wish they weren't renewed. Perfect endings for both of them.

And that's the fear I had for both. Adding more to what feels like a finnisher, can ruin a show :/ You don't want shows like Brooklyn to have that turning point like "everything sucked after the wedding" or "the show took a weird turn when going on NBC" etc. I've seen this so much going through some older shows lately.
 

dead souls

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,317
Yep. SHIELD will not be able to top that finale with their actual series finale, so it should have ended too. The budget cuts are really obvious on the show, I can only imagine how noticeable they will be now that it's been demoted even further.
 

Sandfox

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,743
And that's the fear I had for both. Adding more to what feels like a finnisher, can ruin a show :/ You don't want shows like Brooklyn to have that turning point like "everything sucked after the wedding" or "the show took a weird turn when going on NBC" etc. I've seen this so much going through some older shows lately.
With B99 they never planned for that to be the ending, so they likely had an idea of what they want next for a long time.
 

xrnzaaas

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,125
Dead silence could actually mean good things for Altered Carbon, maybe they're hiring better writers or thinking about switching the actors for season 2? Ortega was a babe but the actress was pretty bad.
 
OP
OP
berzeli

berzeli

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,384
Michael Douglas, David Simon, Ava DuVernay, 'Sherlock' Producer Behind New Dramas For Atrium TV
Okay so Variety had the better explanation of wtf Atrium is:
Atrium TV, the drama-commissioning club for pay-TV platforms and telcos, has set out a new slate that includes shows from Michael Douglas, Ava DuVernay, David Simon, and the producers of "Sherlock." "Quasimodo," which was shown to Atrium members last October, will also move forward, joining the already-announced moon-landing project "One Giant Leap" from veteran producer Mike Medavoy.
...
[Atrium] has members from different regions who are presented with projects that they can co-fund and market locally as originals. The members, including Televisa, Viaplay, BT TV, and Deutsche Telekom, gathered in L.A. on Sunday to get a first look at a new slate of projects.
And now back to Deadline for the actual shows:
Silo, a violent drama set in a future San Francisco which has become, because of diminished resources and over population, one of the many global cities to have created silos – ultimate gated communities of people gathered behind walls or natural barriers. Oscar-winner Douglas did a video presentation for the show which is written by Peter Horton (American Odyssey) and Raelle Tucker (True Blood), with Horton and Douglas producing.
A Dry Run: The Lincolns In Spain is the six part mini series created by The Wire's David Simon and set during the Spanish Civil War. Based on real events, the series will follow those who went to fight fascism in Spain in the years prior to World War II, including America's Abraham Lincoln Battalion. Characters will also include George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway.
Doctor Zhivago is an eight part series, created out of the UK by Sherlock producers Hartswood Films (Beryl Vertue, Sue Vertue), together with Foz Allan (Riviera). Michael First (Vikings) is onboard as writer, adapting Boris Pasternak's classic novel of sweeping political drama and romance for a contemporary audience.
The Last Amazon is an epic historical series from Gaumont (Narcos). Written by Rafe Judkins, produced by Gene Stein (Narcos) and with Ava DuVernay (A Wrinkle In Time) attached to executive produce, the character-driven series will focus on the great Amazon Queens such as Antiope and Hippolyta, portraying their loves and major battles, notably, their campaign against the Ancient Greeks.
Meanwhile, heading into production from Atrium's first drama slate are moon-landing project One Giant Leap from vet producer Mike Medavoy and Quasimodo. The former, which is being written by Stephen Kronish (24), is due to shoot later this year, while Quasimodo is being written by Ashley Pharoah (Life On Mars)

I guess we're actually getting that Spanish Civil War show from David Simon after all! I actually like the sound of all four shows at a glance.
 

thediamondage

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,292
What an entirely bizarre set of shows for a network created by a group of mobile phone operators. You'd think they would focus on more short, non episodic youth driven content than what seems to be BBC/PBS kind of historical dramas.
 
OP
OP
berzeli

berzeli

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,384
What an entirely bizarre set of shows for a network created by a group of mobile phone operators. You'd think they would focus on more short, non episodic youth driven content than what seems to be BBC/PBS kind of historical dramas.
I think most/all of those have streaming services/networks, much like how Comcast owns NBC, AT&T have Audience. I know for a fact that Viaplay is one, so it's not primarily for mobile phones.
 
Oct 25, 2017
22,309
Michael Douglas, David Simon, Ava DuVernay, 'Sherlock' Producer Behind New Dramas For Atrium TV
Okay so Variety had the better explanation of wtf Atrium is:

And now back to Deadline for the actual shows:






I guess we're actually getting that Spanish Civil War show from David Simon after all! I actually like the sound of all four shows at a glance.
I think we need more on the plot of silo as it sounds its just the usual YA dystopia novel setting like say Divergent or Maze Runner.
 

kevin1025

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,773
Super cool news about a third season of Marvelous Mrs Maisel! It's interesting how it got renewed basically in the middle of production of the second season, since it probably won't air until November or December again. Those two Golden Globes must have helped! Plus it might clean up at the upcoming Emmy's, too. It's well worth a watch, if anyone hasn't seen it yet!
 

CrichtonKicks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,216
Aren't networks required to announce their renewals/cancellations no later than their upfronts? That has come and gone for NBC.

If it's gone, at least let us know.

Not for midseason shows (or just shows being held until TBD). It really depends on how long the current cast and crew have contracts. The moment their contracts run out people will start to get work with other shows.
 

kevin1025

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,773
Aren't networks required to announce their renewals/cancellations no later than their upfronts? That has come and gone for NBC.

If it's gone, at least let us know.

Since it a late midseason show, it will find out its fate a little later than usual.

A quote from upfronts:

"We try to give the producers [the courtesy] of letting their shows run and seeing what they do before we make a decision that's premature," [Greenblatt] said. "Champions still has a few episodes to go and Timeless has its finale tonight, so we'll make our decisions after that. … We'll take a look at those shows after their runs and hopefully make a relatively quick decision on that."

It'll be soon, I'm guessing they're looking at Live+3 (or 7) DVR numbers and streaming to make their decision, but it's definitely unfair for the fans to leave things quiet for too long.
 

SeanM

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,434
USA
Seems that Fox acquired the rights to WWE Smackdown and will air it on Fridays (starting 2019).

WWE and Fox Sports are currently closing a deal for "SmackDown" to shift to the Fox broadcast channel in Fall 2019, TheWrap has learned exclusively. The popular pro-wrestling show will air there on Fridays, a person with knowledge of the deal told us.

The weekly sister series to WWE's "Raw" currently airs live each Tuesday on the USA Network from 8-10 p.m.

WWE declined comment on this story when reached by TheWrap. Fox Sports did not immediately return our request for comment.

So basically no scripted programming on Thursdays (Football) or Fridays (WWE). The recent blood bath kind of makes sense now.
 

G_Shumi

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,169
Cleveland, OH
Sunday night's ratings:

Fast-Demo-2018-May-20.SUN_.png
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Dead silence could actually mean good things for Altered Carbon, maybe they're hiring better writers or thinking about switching the actors for season 2? Ortega was a babe but the actress was pretty bad.

They wouldn't bring back any of the old cast anyway. The books are anthology style with the only constant being Takeshi (in a new body -- which also means new actor).
 

ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
Ghosted is a dead show just floating around the network

The network took the show's title as a literal command and ghosted the audience

Boo to that, I say
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,215
Wast Last Man on Earth the longest running non animated show on Fox Sunday nights?
 

Fuzzy

Completely non-threatening
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,139
Toronto
They wouldn't bring back any of the old cast anyway. The books are anthology style with the only constant being Takeshi (in a new body -- which also means new actor).
Not necessarily. Just take a look at the anthology series American Horror Story and how many actors are cast in different roles from season to season.
 

Link

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,623
Since it a late midseason show, it will find out its fate a little later than usual.

A quote from upfronts:



It'll be soon, I'm guessing they're looking at Live+3 (or 7) DVR numbers and streaming to make their decision, but it's definitely unfair for the fans to leave things quiet for too long.
What were the Live+3 and +7 numbers for the Timeless finale anyway? I'm curious if the show's uncertain status and cliffhanger had any effect on ratings.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,215
Due to really messed up scheduling, technically B99 was at least partially on Sunday every season, for a year longer than Last Man on Earth. But if you don't count that, then yes it was (at least since 2005 with animation domination).
Sundays does feel like where they send live action to die for Fox. But then again it is always some trash. I love Ghosted though. But that plane show looked like somebody lost a bet
 

kevin1025

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,773
What were the Live+3 and +7 numbers for the Timeless finale anyway? I'm curious if the show's uncertain status and cliffhanger had any effect on ratings.

Screengrabbed the Wikipedia ratings. Not sure if it's the +3 or the +7 numbers, though (and looks like they stopped updating the page a few weeks back), but it nearly doubles the viewership.


The finale did a 0.6/3 for live + same day, according to TVBytheNumbers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-may-13-2018/
 

Link

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
3,623
Screengrabbed the Wikipedia ratings. Not sure if it's the +3 or the +7 numbers, though (and looks like they stopped updating the page a few weeks back), but it nearly doubles the viewership.



The finale did a 0.6/3 for live + same day, according to TVBytheNumbers.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-may-13-2018/
I was actually looking for the finale's ratings specifically, to see if it improved over the usual increases.

Malcolm in the Middle did 7 seasons on Sundays a long time ago
Married With Children was on Sundays for 10+ of it's seasons.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Not necessarily. Just take a look at the anthology series American Horror Story and how many actors are cast in different roles from season to season.
As far as anthology series go, that is definitely the exception rather than the rule.

Altered Carbon is literally a show about changing bodies. They wouldn't use the same actors (even taking into account we'd be dealing with an entirely different set of characters). And I think that's a good thing. Most of the actors in the first season weren't very good.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,078
Aren't networks required to announce their renewals/cancellations no later than their upfronts? That has come and gone for NBC.

If it's gone, at least let us know.

They're not required to do anything. The upfronts are where new shows are introduced to the ad buyers so they know what they're buying ad-space on. That's why the trailers that are released immediately after upfronts run 5-6 minutes long and give away all the plot. They're not cut to give a taste and build excitement, but so the buyers know exactly what the show is.

As a matter of courtesy and convenience the networks will usually let the old shows know their fate as soon as they decide their schedules for the next season, but there have been many instances of old shows being left to linger, and even new shows picked up after their schedules have been announced.

After the upfronts the business shifts quickly to the LA screenings, which is where buyers from all over the world come to see the new shows and decide which ones they want to buy for their network. This is much more important than it used to be, not just because the "output deals" are basically gone (output deals is where you have an agreement in place that you will buy any shows for instance CBS produces), but because international sales are a much bigger part of a shows profitability than it used to be.
 

thediamondage

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,292
Magnum PI trailer on CBS



looks decent in that cheesy 80s rip off way, kinda cool to have two hawaii on location shows on air soon
 
Status
Not open for further replies.