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Kendrick Lamar calls out white fan for rapping n-word onstage with him at concert
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lmao.
What does this even mean?
I was doing some Busta Rhymes at karaoke once. Realized it's very easy to substitute brotha for that word and then nobody gets upset. (Except Busta Rhymes because a goofy white guy turned his song into a karaoke talent show for wannabe choppers.)
Kendrick handled the situation incredibly well. Love that guy. Just correct her politely and move on.
Kendrick handled the situation incredibly well. Love that guy. Just correct her politely and move on.
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Bro you're from fucking Vancouver, don't act like you just now heard about the n-word. Or does word from the street not reach you when you're living in Trump Tower or whatever?
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You sound like a crazy person lol. If you can't say ONE WORD, you can't be a fan? Really? Seriously? Dios mio..
a word that was written into the song, then white people were asked to sing.
Am a little because that's not how you get a charge for inciting hatred in the UK. Still, we should serious consider the idea of punitive damages for using racial slurs - perhaps as a tort rather than criminal.
Have anyone tried to skip words/lines in catchy songs (okay, I've never heard this song at all)? I find it difficult as fuck. When I am at work and starting singing along without noticing I sing stuff about murdering christians, praising Satan and stuff, and all the people sitting around me are the most religious people I ever met.
Always makes me feel a bit stupid. But damn, cant listen to songs like Ghost - Year Zero without singing out loud!
Always makes me feel a bit stupid. But damn, cant listen to songs like Ghost - Year Zero without singing out loud!
Again, not one of my white friends says that word in song next to me..they just blank it out. Ain't hard..
Damn, some of the responses in this thread are just terrible to downright embarrassing. How can you be that dense and not realize that shit don't fly?
Anyway, the situation was handled pretty well and she apologized. It's not like K-Dot pushed her offstage or something.
Anyway, the situation was handled pretty well and she apologized. It's not like K-Dot pushed her offstage or something.
Think the scenarios aren't analogous.
BELIAL. BEHEMOTH. BEELZEBUB. Has a nice rule of threes to it.
The N-word is just a single word that can be substituted. The song loses none of the catch by dropping it.
I don't say the word that much, even when I'm rapping along. When Lupe Fiasco came out with The Coolest, I skipped the word every time it came up. It's not that hard to not say it.
I do not agree with this at all, if I am understanding the story correctly. So he is on stage, singing one of his own songs, which uses the n-word in its lyrics. He brings a fan onstage to sing with him, but does not want her to sing parts of his own song. Sounds ridiculous to be honest. I think she handled it the right way, but I don't think he did.
If a word is so bad that we are suppose to use an abbreviated version of it, by saying "n-word" or not use it at all, then maybe it is time we stop using it as a collective whole. I get the idea, that non-blacks shouldn't use the word in conversation but halting something from your own song is going overboard.
If a word is so bad that we are suppose to use an abbreviated version of it, by saying "n-word" or not use it at all, then maybe it is time we stop using it as a collective whole. I get the idea, that non-blacks shouldn't use the word in conversation but halting something from your own song is going overboard.
And watch it immediately fucking collapse when it's used against the people it's supposed to protect.
The it's in the song argument is simply an excuse to try and recontextualize something and make a scenario where it's ok to do that's not ok. It's not that hard to not say it or am I wrong? Is it difficult to not say the word if you're white?
Feel bad for the girl here...must've been embarrassing on stage. Kendrick shouldn't have put her in that position
Some context for this post:
-I am a white man who tries to be conscious of social justice issues
-As far as I know I've never heard a Kendrick Lamar song in my life
-Growing up in the late 90s I enjoyed some rap songs but generally I'm not a rap fan
So just to get it out of the way, I don't think non-black people should ever say the N word, and I will leave the question of whether black people should say it up to them. It's not my place.
Have you ever tried to sing or rap a song and omit a word? It's not easy. The faster the lyrics flow, the harder it is. You can be actively trying to avoid saying a word and still have it slip out by accident because of the way our brains work.
A lot of you are saying it's really easy not to say the N word no matter the context, but when you are singing or rapping along with a song it's actually really difficult.
Because of this, after repeatedly trying and finding that I am not able to properly censor myself, a long time ago I swore off singing along with any song that has an N word in the lyrics. But for some people this isn't a realistic choice.
This woman was called up onstage in front of thousands of people. I am sure she was sweating and kind of petrified and out of her mind. If it's difficult to omit a word from a song when you're alone in your car, I imagine that it's just flat out impossible to do it in such a crazy situation.
I think Kendrick Lamar knew this. And now after calling this woman out, he ruined her evening and potentially her life, depending on how this whole thing shakes out. This was a really shitty thing to do to her and I feel bad for her.
-I am a white man who tries to be conscious of social justice issues
-As far as I know I've never heard a Kendrick Lamar song in my life
-Growing up in the late 90s I enjoyed some rap songs but generally I'm not a rap fan
So just to get it out of the way, I don't think non-black people should ever say the N word, and I will leave the question of whether black people should say it up to them. It's not my place.
Have you ever tried to sing or rap a song and omit a word? It's not easy. The faster the lyrics flow, the harder it is. You can be actively trying to avoid saying a word and still have it slip out by accident because of the way our brains work.
A lot of you are saying it's really easy not to say the N word no matter the context, but when you are singing or rapping along with a song it's actually really difficult.
Because of this, after repeatedly trying and finding that I am not able to properly censor myself, a long time ago I swore off singing along with any song that has an N word in the lyrics. But for some people this isn't a realistic choice.
This woman was called up onstage in front of thousands of people. I am sure she was sweating and kind of petrified and out of her mind. If it's difficult to omit a word from a song when you're alone in your car, I imagine that it's just flat out impossible to do it in such a crazy situation.
I think Kendrick Lamar knew this. And now after calling this woman out, he ruined her evening and potentially her life, depending on how this whole thing shakes out. This was a really shitty thing to do to her and I feel bad for her.
Bruv, lmao.
There'd be no talk of entrapment if that was the case.
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Why did you took such defensive position? I'm attacking no one.
So in the end, the context doesn't matter? So is de facto racist if other that black say it. Like if someone reads lyrics with the word nigga and reads it without censor himself, it's on the same page with someone who is pro-slavery, thinks black people are subhuman etc?
Hmm.....your right he doesn't need more "woke" points...but call me crazy but I feel like he may have done this to revise his past of letting white people say the n-word in the past at his concerts. Just think it's weird.
I never heard it growing up conversationally. Of course I heard it third party but never conversationally with people. And honestly, I don't think I've heard it from someone in Vancouver even third party in 10 years. Just from media and when I was in other countries.
I heard racism towards Indians growing up in Surrey and First Nations growing up in Squamish before that unfortunately. But those situations never had a similar word situation.
If you truly believe a word is damaging enough that it should be illegal just to mutter it, you don't think it won't be used negatively against black people?
Every fucking person here is going "only black people should say it" but you don't think that making a word some type of crime--again, just for saying it--would not ever backfire?
I really don't understand those who think minorities are so oppressed that the law should be designed to protect them. The laws that are enforced and instated by the people who want to oppress minorities.
Can't watch the video at the moment
Does the video in the OP's source include her botching the lines afterward?
Does the video in the OP's source include her botching the lines afterward?
A tort isn't a crime. It's a civil wrong which can lead to compensation. It's actioned by private citizens, not the state.
You can't be serious right? I don't understand how it's so difficult to understand. It's just the whole why can't I use it if they use it all the time thing.
I would actually love to see this as a separate thread. I don't think it should necessarily be discussed in this context, as I don't think it should take away from the issue at hand... it's not like because he says bitch that she can use the nword... but yeah, would love some commentary on the popular use of the word "bitch" and its consequences.
"I just want to try on some of the clothes, I don't want to wear the entire outfit."
Lol the fuck? That sounds like something I'd see written in The_Donald
A tort sounds like it has a lower barrier to offense and evidence than regular crime, which changes nothing about what I say, in fact with all the "you're the REAL racist for telling me not to say the n-word" it can easily be flipped back on you.
Bottom line, stop trying to make this a legal issue, it'll do fucking nothing or even worse for those who do not have that privilege.
The issue in question was resolved; just confront and show them how they done it wrong. Well, in this case, be a rich, popular rapper and shame them live across the country. If it's any more obvious or malicious, that's what hate crimes are for (and even those aren't perfect). We have a bunch of laws that will stop or at least confront the worst of these kinds of things.
But stop trying to make the word itself a punishable offense, practically it just won't work and least optimistically it'll make a snowball of much worse actions.
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Seems ridiculous to me. It's in the song, she wasn't using it in any other context than repeating lyrics he already wrote.
You can't have a word that can only be used by certain skin colours.
I don't listen to much rap or hip hop but if the word is in the song, I'm gonna sing it. Freaky Friday is a recent example.
You can't have a word that can only be used by certain skin colours.
I don't listen to much rap or hip hop but if the word is in the song, I'm gonna sing it. Freaky Friday is a recent example.
Again. Tort is not a crime. No police unless they don't attend court. The judiciary is overly-white though, and that should be addressed.
To the thread as a whole, why are there so many rabid responses to a video that showed Kendrick handle it extremely well? A lot of this just sounds like "LET ME SAY IT, LET ME SAY IT" and it's really unfortunate.
How about using the German slang for Bro or close friend
'digga'
Worst case you also associate the songs with an Australian Machine Parts Manufacturer
'digga'
Worst case you also associate the songs with an Australian Machine Parts Manufacturer
If we can make the "minorities are oppressed by the legal and larger party" invalid I think that would do a lot better than torts, yeah.
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