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What do YOU want the next OT title to be?

  • A Place To Put Your Unrequited Feelings

    Votes: 87 29.1%
  • King of the Garbage Boys

    Votes: 103 34.4%
  • I Thought Goku Might Be In There

    Votes: 67 22.4%
  • They All Seem Good At Their Jobs

    Votes: 21 7.0%
  • America's Sweetheart

    Votes: 21 7.0%

  • Total voters
    299
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wenis

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i did no shave november this year and somebody asked me at the end of it if I had forgotten to shave that morning.

That's how bad I have it.
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Boy!
 

Manicstreet

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is it just me or does it sound like the crew are talking at 1.5 speed? It is driving me nuts. I have to keep checking to make sure i didnt speed up the podcast.
 

Mini-Me

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Is it just me or does it sound like the crew are talking at 1.5 speed? It is driving me nuts. I have to keep checking to make sure i didnt speed up the podcast.
I was thinking exactly that this morning. Especially Patrick during parts of the Black Ops chat. I genuinely thought it was sped up he was talking so fast.
 

deepFlaw

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Was days gone that bad at e3 last year?
Not to say it looks good when it's been shown but it looked fine from what I remember

other people have covered it but is like... the most boring game, conceptually, it is something you can point at and go "that is a video game" but nothing about it seems actually interesting; there is the fact that there are hordes of zombies, which... sure, but without anything interesting there you might as well be showing off a tech demo

if it has an interesting story and world, somehow, maybe there'll be something to it? but they sure haven't shown any of that off so far and it seems like the most generic zombie setting, so what's even the appeal beyond "there are many of the least interesting kind of enemy ever to fight"

...also they fucking called the zombies "Freakers", I keep forgetting that and remembering it and getting bewildered by it, as happened yet again right before I started this sentence, they called the zombies "Freakers" and expect people to take the game seriously

the extent of the world building they've shown off is that people looked at other humans becoming infected with something that makes them tear other humans apart and running in hordes to do so, and went "ah, Freakers, cause they're freaking out!", and everyone accepted this

what a game

I'd take having a baby face over this classic male pattern balding look I have going. At this point I just buzz it down and grow out a beard. I guess I'm lucky enough to be able to do that.

yeah, same, I'll trade you fuckers

except I can't really grow much of a beard either
 

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What I love about Days Gone is that it shows how deep we are in our own little bubble and don't even realise it. To most of us Days Gone looks generic and not that interesting. But looking at those YouTube views is like holy cow. If played right this could appeal to the gigantic Walking Dead crowd like TLOU2 never could (or would want to I assume).
 

OrdinaryPrime

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other people have covered it but is like... the most boring game, conceptually, it is something you can point at and go "that is a video game" but nothing about it seems actually interesting; there is the fact that there are hordes of zombies, which... sure, but without anything interesting there you might as well be showing off a tech demo

if it has an interesting story and world, somehow, maybe there'll be something to it? but they sure haven't shown any of that off so far and it seems like the most generic zombie setting, so what's even the appeal beyond "there are many of the least interesting kind of enemy ever to fight"

...also they fucking called the zombies "Freakers", I keep forgetting that and remembering it and getting bewildered by it, as happened yet again right before I started this sentence, they called the zombies "Freakers" and expect people to take the game seriously

the extent of the world building they've shown off is that people looked at other humans becoming infected with something that makes them tear other humans apart and running in hordes to do so, and went "ah, Freakers, cause they're freaking out!", and everyone accepted this

what a game

Yeah it's amazing how a game like The Last of Us overcame calling its zombies 'clickers' and 'runners' and 'bloaters', amazing.

People want to hate on the game, hard, because compared to other Sony first party games, it doesn't have the same level of polish. It is what it is.

The game is going for something different, the ability to use strategy and herd zombies and pit them against humans, etc. Whether you're interested in that is your own thing, but writing off a game because zombies are called Freakers is lame.
 

kadotsu

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Oct 25, 2017
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What I love about Days Gone is that it shows how deep we are in our own little bubble and don't even realise it. To most of us Days Gone looks generic and not that interesting. But looking at those YouTube views is like holy cow. If played right this could appeal to the gigantic Walking Dead crowd like TLOU2 never could (or would want to I assume).
As a new IP the game is still review dependent. The Podcast discussion was a bit frustrating. I personally don't like the game but on the podcast the argument didn't go beyond "It demoed poorly", "It's not good" and something about dumpsters. I want to know why it's not good, especially when you can compare it to SoD to make your point.
 

Antiwhippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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What I love about Days Gone is that it shows how deep we are in our own little bubble and don't even realise it. To most of us Days Gone looks generic and not that interesting. But looking at those YouTube views is like holy cow. If played right this could appeal to the gigantic Walking Dead crowd like TLOU2 never could (or would want to I assume).

Oh I totally recognise that zombies are popular.

Doesn't mean I have to like them.
 

daveo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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What I love about Days Gone is that it shows how deep we are in our own little bubble and don't even realise it. To most of us Days Gone looks generic and not that interesting. But looking at those YouTube views is like holy cow. If played right this could appeal to the gigantic Walking Dead crowd like TLOU2 never could (or would want to I assume).
Popularity doesn't automatically make a thing good. Take a look at the Walking Dead as a prime example of that.
 

Strafer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not getting that bar Jeff was talking about regarding the new EU stuff.

Jeff seems really angry about it. :D

I myself love it.
 

deepFlaw

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Yeah it's amazing how a game like The Last of Us overcame calling its zombies 'clickers' and 'runners' and 'bloaters', amazing.

People want to hate on the game, hard, because compared to other Sony first party games, it doesn't have the same level of polish. It is what it is.

The game is going for something different, the ability to use strategy and herd zombies and pit them against humans, etc. Whether you're interested in that is your own thing, but writing off a game because zombies are called Freakers is lame.

To be clear, it's totally a minor point, and more of a laughable thing than a thing I think is outright bad or something anyway- my thoughts on the game are more that it's completely uninteresting. But it also speaks to the thing that would interest me - story and an interesting world - apparently not being thought about at all?

Calling zombies "clickers", "runners", "bloaters", etc. is silly, I agree. But... those zombies also do actually click, run fast, are bloated, etc. You can point to L4D similarly- the special infected have kinda silly names, but the basic name in both cases is "the infected". You can reasonably imagine people looking at these weird mutations and coming up with slang for them.

Meanwhile "Freakers" are... "freaking out", I guess? While somehow not just being "freaks"? It feels like inventing a term to have a term vs thinking through what people in the world would actually say, if that makes sense? It's not like that's what broke my suspension of disbelief, in a game about zombies, it's more that it feels like another sign that the game is just "isn't it cool to fight zombies" vs doing anything interesting with the idea of people who are fighting zombies.

And I'm not hating on it to hate on it. I would legitimately like to understand what people see in it. Is the horde stuff actually interesting to you long term if that's literally all there is to it?
 

Joeku

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Oct 26, 2017
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I wish more zombie fiction would just call them zombies. We all get it anyway.

I understand that they would then feel obligated to have other zombie fiction exist within that universe, but they could just not.

Edit: Except TLoU. I love the life cycle of the cordyceps infection.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I wish more zombie fiction would just call them zombies. We all get it anyway.

I understand that they would then feel obligated to have other zombie fiction exist within that universe, but they could just not.
Yes, just call them zombies! It annoys when zombie fiction pretends the concept of zombies didn't exist in their universe.
 

Joeku

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Oct 26, 2017
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Clickers is a dumb name, just call em Fungus Zombies
They click, though. And that's only one of four stages. You don't need to be so slow and silent around runners and stalkers.

Although I get how something named after onomatopoeia can not land so well for non-native english speakers.
 

deepFlaw

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I mean even if it's zombie fiction where they're infected people, not undead, if not gonna call them zombies like... just call them infected?

Or you could come up with a name for the infection and use that as a basis? Or name them after where the infection started? Or after who discovered the infection? Anything like that. Naming them after behavior as slang is whatever, but I feel like that kind of world building would at least be more interesting even if it's still just a way to differentiate the work.



A little while ago, the last time I remembered "Freakers" and tweeted about it before forgetting again, a friend immediately linked to this.
 

Blitzrules240

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Left 4 Dead 2 and Dead Rising 2 are my favorite zombie games.

I never gave The Last of Us it's due but that's my personal choice.
 

OrdinaryPrime

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To be clear, it's totally a minor point, and more of a laughable thing than a thing I think is outright bad or something anyway- my thoughts on the game are more that it's completely uninteresting. But it also speaks to the thing that would interest me - story and an interesting world - apparently not being thought about at all?

Calling zombies "clickers", "runners", "bloaters", etc. is silly, I agree. But... those zombies also do actually click, run fast, are bloated, etc. You can point to L4D similarly- the special infected have kinda silly names, but the basic name in both cases is "the infected". You can reasonably imagine people looking at these weird mutations and coming up with slang for them.

Meanwhile "Freakers" are... "freaking out", I guess? While somehow not just being "freaks"? It feels like inventing a term to have a term vs thinking through what people in the world would actually say, if that makes sense? It's not like that's what broke my suspension of disbelief, in a game about zombies, it's more that it feels like another sign that the game is just "isn't it cool to fight zombies" vs doing anything interesting with the idea of people who are fighting zombies.

So your problem is the name doesn't describe what they do. If I didn't invest time in figuring out Horizon, I would wonder why Aloy's tribe is called the Nora and would think that would be stupid as well. But then I played the game and realized wow there's a really good in game reason for them to be called that name. And sure it could be there isn't a reasonable in universe reason for their name. It just seems petty to concentrate on.

And I'm not hating on it to hate on it. I would legitimately like to understand what people see in it. Is the horde stuff actually interesting to you long term if that's literally all there is to it?

It's not literally all there is. I mean you're on a video game forum with a billion different preview threads about the game and videos and instead you want to stubbornly stick to things which have been disproven. Whether you like the stuff they're going for is one thing, but there's no reason to state things about the game that are simply not true.

Pitting the AI against each other to accomplish goals I think is super interesting and cool. And leads to so many ways to progress. Something which attracted me to Horizon as well with how you can override machines.
 

Incandenza

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sooo curious to see what that busted-ass GDPR compliance stuff that Jeff was talking about is going to look like.
 

HomespunFur

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other people have covered it but is like... the most boring game, conceptually, it is something you can point at and go "that is a video game" but nothing about it seems actually interesting; there is the fact that there are hordes of zombies, which... sure, but without anything interesting there you might as well be showing off a tech demo

if it has an interesting story and world, somehow, maybe there'll be something to it? but they sure haven't shown any of that off so far and it seems like the most generic zombie setting, so what's even the appeal beyond "there are many of the least interesting kind of enemy ever to fight"

...also they fucking called the zombies "Freakers", I keep forgetting that and remembering it and getting bewildered by it, as happened yet again right before I started this sentence, they called the zombies "Freakers" and expect people to take the game seriously

the extent of the world building they've shown off is that people looked at other humans becoming infected with something that makes them tear other humans apart and running in hordes to do so, and went "ah, Freakers, cause they're freaking out!", and everyone accepted this

what a game

I mean it looks super boring but I dunno, it doesn't look more boring than a bunch of big shooters that are shown year after year.
 

OrdinaryPrime

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I'm sooo curious to see what that busted-ass GDPR compliance stuff that Jeff was talking about is going to look like.

I wonder what Jeff actually has to do with GDPR (haven't heard that part of the bombcast yet) or it's the poor web devs that are the ones feeling the brunt of it.

GDPR was adopted in April of 2016, everyone scrambling at the last minute to do this shit is kind of cracking me up.
 
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