Battlefield V fans who failed history are mad that the game has women in it
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I think 1886 that PS4 game had probably the same people react this way at the sight of a screenshots of one person of colour existing. Raging against what they thought were "inaccuracies", because what's accurate to them is their own notions before anything stemmed in reality.
Well yes and no
I have seen hours and hours of world war footage in my live and documentaries but not once saw women charging or being on the battlefield.
I am just stating a fact that i have experienced.
There have been some women though in ww2
Some aviators like the russian night witches and some other women on the ground like the polish Gretz and that russian sniper mentioned in the OP
These were all on the sovjet side though
So it would still be strange to see them on the american side
"During World War II, approximately 400,000 U.S. women served with the armed forces and more than 460 — some sources say the figure is closer to 543 — lost their lives as a result of the war, including 16 from enemy fire.
However, the U.S. decided not to use women in combat because public opinion would not tolerate it. Women became officially recognized as a permanent part of the U.S. armed forces after the war, with the passing of the Women's Armed Services Integration Act of 1948."
I have seen hours and hours of world war footage in my live and documentaries but not once saw women charging or being on the battlefield.
I am just stating a fact that i have experienced.
There have been some women though in ww2
Some aviators like the russian night witches and some other women on the ground like the polish Gretz and that russian sniper mentioned in the OP
These were all on the sovjet side though
So it would still be strange to see them on the american side
"During World War II, approximately 400,000 U.S. women served with the armed forces and more than 460 — some sources say the figure is closer to 543 — lost their lives as a result of the war, including 16 from enemy fire.
However, the U.S. decided not to use women in combat because public opinion would not tolerate it. Women became officially recognized as a permanent part of the U.S. armed forces after the war, with the passing of the Women's Armed Services Integration Act of 1948."
I know but at least dont tell people that you did research etc and then show something that screams Bad Company with over the top action.
I dont know. Sucks that the first Reveal trailer was this bad. At least for me.
And dont forget that favorit buzzword "immersion". This over the top customization ruins this so called immersion of a WW2 world.
They are wrong.
I just hope that we don't start painting the picture that this is the only problem people have with BF V.
The Ghostbusters reboot is still fresh in my mind. Enough idiots attacked the movie for its female cast, but that wasn't the main problem why the movie didn't succeed. The problem were terrible and unfunny jokes (mostly). Still, everybody disliking the movie was painted as a backward women hater. Interestingly enough wonder woman was very successful despite "all" nerds being anti women.
I have the feeling we are, again, starting to concentrate on some loud idiots. While ignoring that many people just dislike this "silly" approach to WW2 with close combat weapons that are straight out of dead rising.
I just hope that we don't start painting the picture that this is the only problem people have with BF V.
The Ghostbusters reboot is still fresh in my mind. Enough idiots attacked the movie for its female cast, but that wasn't the main problem why the movie didn't succeed. The problem were terrible and unfunny jokes (mostly). Still, everybody disliking the movie was painted as a backward women hater. Interestingly enough wonder woman was very successful despite "all" nerds being anti women.
I have the feeling we are, again, starting to concentrate on some loud idiots. While ignoring that many people just dislike this "silly" approach to WW2 with close combat weapons that are straight out of dead rising.
It's because they didn't lead with it.Call of Duty had had female characters for 5 games now and the reception to females in COD WW2 wasn't nearly this bad or widespread.
Heck Call of Duty Finest Hour had
Except we know for a fact there were women fighting in the war sooo
I heard that the female character models have a passive ability called "Cooties" and are totally OP against male characters /s
Have you ever played a Battlefield game? Every single one of them is wacky nonsense. The only difference is that this time they didn't hide it in their marketing. It's always been about "Battlefield moments" so they made a trailer full of them. boo hoo
The Red Army had regular female troops in ww2, due to the massive loss of population. They even let prisoners out to fight the war.
It's called World War for a reason.
It's called World War for a reason.
Call of Duty had had female characters for 5 games now and the reception to females in COD WW2 wasn't nearly this bad or widespread.
Heck Call of Duty Finest Hour had
It's almost assuredly because Battlefield was the last multiplayer AAA FPS series without a major role for women.
When Call of Duty added women, people could point to Battlefield as a place to go if you were upset about that. Now they have nowhere left.
This whole drama is embarrassing. Shit like this is why video games are seen as something not worthy of respect, and a "waste of time" by some in the general public.
These people screaming " Sjws!" are the worst. My girlfriend saw the trailer and she thinks it looks fun. Fuck anyone who begins their sentence with "But women..." !
These people screaming " Sjws!" are the worst. My girlfriend saw the trailer and she thinks it looks fun. Fuck anyone who begins their sentence with "But women..." !
Why not tell their stories, then? I thought DICE did a great job of inclusiveness with having the Harlem Hellfighters in BF1, and giving them a central role in the marketing.
Most of these fuckers were silent when Battlefield 1 made 2/3 of the Triple Entente part of DLC. So fuck off with this historical accuracy bullshit, its just a disguise to complain about women having a playable role in a war shooter.
The lengths people will go to construct layers of disingenuous supposed belief that any Battlefield game was ever supposed to be historically accurate and highly realistic as a defense of their dismay that one woman did some cool shit in a trailer blows my fucking mind
This is sad. I swear I feel like games are going through what Hollywood had too with subjects like these but in 2018. I just engorge it at this point. The hell with historical accuracy I just want a cool game to play and it has a women on it so what? If anything we need more women in the spotlight.
Just quoting myself from the other thread.
"Glorious authentic World War 1 aesthetic that fits the tone of what the war was actually like, not a HUGE reach in terms of accuracy":
"Unauthentic AF!"
-Armchair historian gamers™
Both pictures feature things that technically existed during the time period, but pushed forward to the forefront of the experience, because BF has never prided itself on it's accuracy. Only loose interpretations even when it's going through historical events.
The post your quoting literally says there were, but in a context that doesn't fit the trailer.
Soooo....
(For the record, i liked the character in question as presented in the trailer, but i am not too keen on the silliness factor of the game)
True. With WWII the whole topic basically died around release. Now people are asking for MORE faces, male and female to play as.
I wonder if BFV will be the same or not.
I don't think its racist or sexist. I think some are overreacting on both sides of the debate.
I think you can pick any era and war, and find things that wouldn't fit because of historical accuracy. I'm an African American, but I would be startled if there was a game depicting African Americans on the Sino side of the Boxer rebellion.
Oh no.....there are genuinely some people who think color didn't exist during world war 2.
Wrong. These people still play the games, I've seen PLENTY of "MAGA", "TRMP" clan signs on Cod WWII, as well as Nazi swastikas or SS for their custom emblem. They're hypocrites.
I still think it's fair to say that BF1 took liberties for gameplay purposes (e.g. every soldier having elite weaponry, semi-automatic rifles, etc.) but they were still aiming for immersion and accuracy for the most part. Hence the history and trivia they taught, the stories, the locations, and the seriousness and cinematic feel of the presentation.
BF2 is some alternate timeline, Hitler getting shot down by Jews in Inglorious Basterds, presentation.
Like I said in the other thread, if you are hyped por a world war game, part of the reason they are so popular is a game with a woman on the cover
Isn't she a resistance fighter? For me, the tone and quirkiness of the trailer completely put me off. I didn't even know it was set in WW2 until reading impressions afterwards. The issue isn't that people are just horribly sexist. If MGS VI was announced, excluding all the kojima/konami bs, people would be absolutely ecstatic to see a trailer of the boss running around WW2 Normandy. Maybe the issue is that BFV doesn't go far enough?
Anyway, it may just be a bad trailer, but for some reason the tone and quirkiness to BFV leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth.
I wonder if these same men were so hurt when they found out the WWI battles chosen as maps in BF1 didn't actually take place as they're depicted in the game. For example, I recently discovered that the geographical location of Empire's Edge, which was supposedly a coastal battle, is modeled after a mountaintop structure deep in inland Italy.
Wait...
No one cried about this?
Wait...
No one cried about this?
When many of the highest upvoted posts are complaining about DICE inserting SJW politics into the game and this being the worst thing since the Ghostbusters remake, it's not too hard to see what they're really hinting at, though.
I don't know why people care so much. It's a video game, and Battlefield has never been one for historical accuracy to begin with.
People been asking for it for years while DICE gave pathetic excuses why they haven't done it,
They kinda needed to make a big deal about it.
Especially with the last 2 Battlefields prominently featuring women in campaign
but just saying its too much work for MP at the time.
People are SO F-ING DUMB that they think the world looked like, in real life, what the video technology of the time was able to capture. Like that the Vietnam war was fought in a washed out green, 240p arena, not a lush, beautiful jungle...or that the European country side was somehow dull in 1942
Yea it's pretty dumb and depressing. I feel like you can tell the caliber of people you are dealing with when they referring to the female's arm as a "robotic arm". At first I thought people were just being obtuse on purpose, but the more I saw people questioning it I am not so sure anymore. I agree the trailer wasn't a good reveal, but it didn't give us any insight to what the actual gameplay will be like and based on JackFrags impression it sounds really different.
Hopefully EA/DICE can take this as a lesson and actually reveal the game at the reveal event. Showing a short trailer and giving vague details about the gameplay is lame.
Hopefully EA/DICE can take this as a lesson and actually reveal the game at the reveal event. Showing a short trailer and giving vague details about the gameplay is lame.
I'm glad DICE is pushing back on these idiots.
Honestly, it's the most excited I've ever been for a BF game. I generally don't play them but BF5 looks unique and interesting.
Honestly, it's the most excited I've ever been for a BF game. I generally don't play them but BF5 looks unique and interesting.
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