Maul survived TPM and went on to form a criminal syndicate. It's a major part of the Clone Wars cartoon. He doesn't die until about 2 years before ANH when he has a final showdown with Kenobi on Tatooine in Star Wars Rebels.
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Solo: A Star Wars Story |OT| Ron Shot Last [SPOILERS]
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Maul survived TPM and went on to form a criminal syndicate. It's a major part of the Clone Wars cartoon. He doesn't die until about 2 years before ANH when he has a final showdown with Kenobi on Tatooine in Star Wars Rebels.
I knew Maul was alive. Is Kira a major character in the Rebbels show? Are we supposed to know more about her than we got in this movie, or was it just setting up for something? Is she his apprentice or something?
Idk. I guess I'm just not feeling that. He is so significantly more cynical and shut off.
I don't feel like what happened at the end was enough for that level of change. And if it was, I don't think it was written well-enough to convey that. Nor do I think just an accumulation of running jobs would do that.
She's totally new to Solo: ASWS, so I'd assume it's just a setup for the future.
I love how maul is gonna be such a WTF moment for anyone who didn't watch clone wars or rebels.
ALSO.
Clearly there is going to be more.. I wonder if disney is gonna take the marvel playbook and have the next few 'star wars stories' play out as their own little chronology.
The eventual Obi-wan film could easily have solo on tatooine.
Likewise, "solo 2" could easily have an ewan mcgregor cameo, or even a larger role.
I LOVE that they're fleshing out maul back into the cinematic universe, and not just the television universe.. The fact that they weren't afraid to include him might just open up a ton of doors for further stories here.
And here I was thinking this would be the first star wars film without a lightsaber.
ALSO.
Clearly there is going to be more.. I wonder if disney is gonna take the marvel playbook and have the next few 'star wars stories' play out as their own little chronology.
The eventual Obi-wan film could easily have solo on tatooine.
Likewise, "solo 2" could easily have an ewan mcgregor cameo, or even a larger role.
I LOVE that they're fleshing out maul back into the cinematic universe, and not just the television universe.. The fact that they weren't afraid to include him might just open up a ton of doors for further stories here.
And here I was thinking this would be the first star wars film without a lightsaber.
For Clone Wars fans....I'm pretty sure the "Crimson Sun" is what remains of the "Black Sun" from the TV series. In season 5, Maul kills *beheads* all of the Black Sun leaders and takes control of the syndicate. The similarities between the ensignias are really apparent, and crimson sun and black sun are too close in name to just be a coincidence
They did not convey that level of dejection and emotional shift well if that singular event was what was supposed to cause that significant of a change.
It's almost played as "oh well that sucks and hurts, but let's go"
for a movie I was not looking forward to like at all, I really enjoyed it. I am very grateful that the shows influenced the movie in some way. This is something ive wanted for so long. Actual pay off to exploring things outside the movies in the movies. If a solo series is whats needed to keep that happening, then bring on the sequels.
Maul's cameo was the only thing that kind of bothered me about the movie, not because it reminded me of the prequels but because it reminded me of the Clone Wars and Rebels which no one will convince me weren't terrible. And I wasn't satisfied with the show's explanation of what Maul was doing all the years after TPM. Igniting a lightsaber in a hologram was also kind of lame. Still, on the the other hand excited to see him in a possible Solo sequel, and I hope the writers don't feel like they need to stick to the Rebels story if there's a Kenobi movie, just to stay consistent with a TV episode that less than 1% of the audience will have seen.
So...
Was anyone else expecting L-3 to become Lobot? I really thought that was the set up they were going for.
Alright. Thanks for the info.
Was anyone else expecting L-3 to become Lobot? I really thought that was the set up they were going for.
Alright. Thanks for the info.
Black Sun is still around as an independent entity until at least that end of the Civil War (they're involved in the background of the Aftermath novels). I think Crimson Dawn is just the organization that Maul forms out of the ruins of the Shadow Collective with a name that's sort of a pun on Black Sun because Darth Maul is...red.
I don't believe he sees it as being over at the end of Solo. The story seems unfinished.
Canon already took care of Lobot's deal too in the titular Lando comic, which is very good and which I would recommend that everyone read.
Depending on how this movie does. I can see them expanding on the Maul stuff. Like it would be interesting to get a story with him and his perspective of the criminal underworld.
So is L3 still alive in the Falcon? Or did they just jam her knowledge bank into the Falcon's computer?
I believe so! Han always did refer to the Falcon as a "she" and gave it more personality than normal.
I just realized this means he probably can't ever encounter Darth Maul then
Making his inclusion in the movie like a set up for a sequel more weird then.
That first teaser and then first full trailer killed any desire i had to see this but i went in and came out having had a good time. Thought it was really well done and an easy movie to watch and yet...
This is also very true for me as well. Not like telling this story has lifted a burden of curiosity that has weigned on me since 1977
This is also very true for me as well. Not like telling this story has lifted a burden of curiosity that has weigned on me since 1977
Unless Han never meets him. Or like someone said in the Boba Fett thread. Maul recruits Fett at some point.
Or it literally could have just been a fun easter to egg to throw at fans that have watched the cartoons and give people who didn't know he was alive something to look up.
Yeah, if so the series would be becoming more like the MCU.
Maul is Qira's boss now and he says they'll be working much more closely together. It would definitely be weird if there was a sequel and Maul was just an easter egg at the beginning of the first movie.
Who says they ever have to meet? He could appear as a subplot where his actions have consequences / affect the outcome of something to do with han, without him knowing it?
Also, random thought... the last "lesson" was totally going to be "always shoot first", and han shooting first was a hamfisted eye wink from the whole damned movie to its audience. lol.
Just wait until the time travel team up movie that brings togeher Alden's Han, Ewan's Obi-Wan, Glover's Lando and Jyn as they fight to save the universe from Darth Maul.
I think it's just sort of a symbolic living on. She does sort of "live on" through the L3 Assault Team which appears in Last Shot though.
I thought these lines were a low blow when I heard them. There's no way they were not an inside jab
I thought it was largely fine, just kinda bland. I get that this is a prequel, but my eyes rolled straight out of their sockets when they *gave* Han the name Solo.
I never really bought the main actor as Han, even though I think he did fine as an actor in his own right. None of this really felt like a prequel to star wars yet almost the entire movie was devoted to setting up things that come up later in star wars. It's bizarre.
Making Han a "hero" at the end is just so weird to me. Han's just some skeevy degenerate when we meet him in A New Hope. He's just a shlub. It's the fact that this shlub becomes invested in the cause that makes him interesting. Telling us he already had it in him is kinda weird.
I never really bought the main actor as Han, even though I think he did fine as an actor in his own right. None of this really felt like a prequel to star wars yet almost the entire movie was devoted to setting up things that come up later in star wars. It's bizarre.
Making Han a "hero" at the end is just so weird to me. Han's just some skeevy degenerate when we meet him in A New Hope. He's just a shlub. It's the fact that this shlub becomes invested in the cause that makes him interesting. Telling us he already had it in him is kinda weird.
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That was the most fun I've had watching a Star Wars movie since Return of the Jedi. Not saying it was the best, but certainly the most fun. Much better than expected.
Also was I crazy or did I see Cloud City in the background when they first entered the maelstrom.
Plus I LOVE how they pissed on Lucas' edits by having Hans just blast Beckett mid sentence.
Also was I crazy or did I see Cloud City in the background when they first entered the maelstrom.
Plus I LOVE how they pissed on Lucas' edits by having Hans just blast Beckett mid sentence.
I was legitimately surprised that they killed L3 so soon, after setting her up as a funny side character. That was a pretty brutal and hard-to-watch scene too.
That was really sad, I ended up really loving her. It's one of those deaths that they can get away with because she's a droids but essentially she was cut in half and her entrails were spilling all over as she had a seizure. It was a pretty horrible way to go.
It's really...complicated to explain but prior to Solo she basically creates a couple of droids based in her own image to track down and prevent a crazy cyborg guy from using a doomsday device that allows him to mind-control droids, and it comes to a head after RotJ.
Although contradicting a Rebels episode barely anyone has seen is much easier than contradicting A New Hope
If that Boba Fett movie gets made, I wouldn't be surprised if Maul gets tied into that. I just don't see how it can be a Han movie since it's made very clear he didn't believe in all that Jedi shit and it can't be in the Obi-Wan movie since he hadn't seen him until Rebels.
The way things are going, I feel like they're just going to flat out remake the original movies.
Lol I definitely was getting that feeling kinda as this movie went on
I thought "at what point do they just re-tell the trilogy again so they can make it all fit exactly how they want as opposed to having to make everything fit into a box they didn't make and was so far removed from what they are doing now"