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Solo: A Star Wars Story |OT| Ron Shot Last [SPOILERS]
- Thread starter MMarston
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The villain of the book has a weapon that puts droids into a murderous frenzy, which she and Lando encounter before the events of Solo, but only she really understands what it is at the time. She knows that some day Lando's going to encounter it again and she might not be around to save him, so she comes up with a plan. She builds a copy of herself that has an immunity to the weapon and sets it on a mission to find a way to build a better copy of itself that also has that same mission. Then in the present day storyline all the copies appear to save Lando when he's about to die in an explosion he triggers to take the weapon out. They tell him that they're repaying his kindness to her and it's a really nice moment.
Now that there is a Fett movie in the works, the Maul tie in seems to work best for that. Fett and Solo can still cross over while Maul stays in the background.
The only original movies they need to remake are the prequels
The positive word of mouth for the film here and on Twitter has me happy. Hopefully it leads to nice legs.
It would not work unless they do not care about retconning rebels.
Maul doesn't meet with Obi-wan until 2 years before a new hope and doesn't learn about him being on Tatooine until opening a sith holocron.
If they are exploring Maul in film, its going to be before he appears in rebels because when he is introduced he is basically a dark side hermit.
Well, uh, Glover was incredible like I expected, the train sequence was fun, Darth Maul was a nice surprise, Chewy was great and Harrelson was fine until the final act when he pulled his Dark Knight Rises Talia Al Ghul death.
Alden was totally fucking miserable though and never once felt like Han for even a second, Clarke is dreadful, the writing was pretty off in places and the amount of "'member this?" shit was really off putting.
Slightly better than I had expected, an objective 6/10, just still reeked of cynical commercialism and had a horribly miscast lead and it's easily the worst of the Disney Star Wars films so far. Hopefully they have the sense to dump Alden as Han and opt for Lando spin-offs if they want to keep building off this subseries or better yet, just make that damn Obi-Wan spin-off with Ewan McGregor already.
Alden was totally fucking miserable though and never once felt like Han for even a second, Clarke is dreadful, the writing was pretty off in places and the amount of "'member this?" shit was really off putting.
Slightly better than I had expected, an objective 6/10, just still reeked of cynical commercialism and had a horribly miscast lead and it's easily the worst of the Disney Star Wars films so far. Hopefully they have the sense to dump Alden as Han and opt for Lando spin-offs if they want to keep building off this subseries or better yet, just make that damn Obi-Wan spin-off with Ewan McGregor already.
man so great, it's far better than the sum of it's parts.
I gasped when Maul showed up. Man that's gonna confuse a ton of fans who haven't followed the EU
I gasped when Maul showed up. Man that's gonna confuse a ton of fans who haven't followed the EU
Like, I think the movie was fine...
But I am legit the most excited about Maul.
Like I heard the voice and went 'is that Maul?"
they got Sam Witwer to do his voice in the movie. So if Maul is returning, he is probably going to be a CG character
But I am legit the most excited about Maul.
Like I heard the voice and went 'is that Maul?"
they got Sam Witwer to do his voice in the movie. So if Maul is returning, he is probably going to be a CG character
Yep I really loved this film as sort of a backfill in life under the empire. The cast was fantastic much better than expected. Now I'm just curious if they're planning a Solo trilogy with the Maul stuff or if Emilia and Maul are destined for the Game of Thrones Producer's trilogy?
Alden was a great Han and they aren't recasting him come on now lol. Even mr grumpy himself Harrison Ford said he thought Alden did a great job.
What The point To Form Storygroup if they let movies rewrite canon that their approve ?
Maul Role Very important in Rebels Season 3
I was way more impressed with Alden than Donald Glover, although he was also very good
They've straight up fucked on every inch of that ship.
Yep I mean I'm 33 now and look like a child in my college sophomore pics and I'm almost a totally different person with work and various life milestones and that's just 13 years!
That's why people who shit on Luke in TLJ are full of shit that's a 30+ year gap that's inevitably going to get filled in. You'd change too.
Oh, I don't want or expect a recast. I just really don'f want to see more Han, especially not another standalone movie, haha.
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Harrison has flipped on opinions before. The guy making cash from the House of Kennedy and Mickey isn't going to walk onto Entertainment Tonight and proclaim the movie and Alden were dogshit. He's very much a part of the marketing machine
Things like Han helping the rebellion, especially to the degree he does at this early stage of his life, is just such a George Lucas prequel-style connection for connection's sake choice... there was absolutely a more interesting and subtle way for them to hint at his future potential without resorting to that.
Solo has good moments, and it's not a bad film, but it's just too straightforward for it's own good.
Solo has good moments, and it's not a bad film, but it's just too straightforward for it's own good.
If it's the same actor for maul then they should be setting him up to fight Ewan mgregor again for the obi wan movie
Oh shit really?
Oh man, they going to Vader this with Park as the body and Witwer as the voice?
It really is mostly positive stuff on Twitter tonight as opposed to the "mixed from opening night" reaction to The Last Jedi.
I've seen a number of people say this was the first Disney Star Wars film they actually enjoyed.
So yeah, we're in for a couple decades of no one ever being happy with Star Wars films and constant arguing.
I've seen a number of people say this was the first Disney Star Wars film they actually enjoyed.
So yeah, we're in for a couple decades of no one ever being happy with Star Wars films and constant arguing.
I would describe this movie as "Checklist: The Movie". This took prequel-style connecting the dots to the extremes. I was disgusted by this film.
Gotta be weird for Ray Park, is his voice that bad?
Sam Witwer's voice/acting in this felt so cartoony to me but I can't say for sure whether or not I felt that because I associate it with the cartoon
Yeeeep.
Even ignoring all the checklist stuff, everything in the movie felt weightless. A lot of opportunity squandered.
The best thing I can say about it is that the acting was much better than I thought it would be, and all the practical effect monsters were pretty awesome.
Star Wars fans don't need to like every movie. The idea here is the people behind the franchise diversifying the genres and types of movies they make within universe to appeal to a broad audience, not to make everyone happy. Thankfully, there's at least one movie someone can enjoy from the franchise.
We need a romantic comedy.
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but Aldens performance might not be one to one Han....
but it feels transiony like he is learning how to be "Harrison Ford's Han"
I wasn't blown away by his performance, but I didn't hate it.
Donald Glover and Woody Harelson (I always confuse him with Micheal Rooker for some reason) were the best performances
but it feels transiony like he is learning how to be "Harrison Ford's Han"
I wasn't blown away by his performance, but I didn't hate it.
Donald Glover and Woody Harelson (I always confuse him with Micheal Rooker for some reason) were the best performances
Can't Maul just not do Jedi shit when he meets Han? Or meet Lando instead and Lando needs Hans help? Plenty of ways to make it work.
I wouldn't go so far as to say the movie was boring, but it was really not all that interesting. I was just not really engaged at all. The characters seemed really thinly drawn and the movie has no satisfying arc or emotional core. It's just a bunch of stuff that happens.
It has all the major problems of a prequel, in that we largely know where the major characters are going to end up so the whole thing just feels like they are going through the motions. With Rogue One there were at least some surprises to be had since all the lead characters were unknown factors.
I totally do not buy that Han would have coughed up all the loot to a band of a dozen scrappy freedom fighters. To me that feels like a huge betrayal of the character......moreso than Greedo shooting first. Fuck, at least have him keep half the loot. For him to come out of the whole affair with basically nothing is ridiculous.
It has all the major problems of a prequel, in that we largely know where the major characters are going to end up so the whole thing just feels like they are going through the motions. With Rogue One there were at least some surprises to be had since all the lead characters were unknown factors.
I totally do not buy that Han would have coughed up all the loot to a band of a dozen scrappy freedom fighters. To me that feels like a huge betrayal of the character......moreso than Greedo shooting first. Fuck, at least have him keep half the loot. For him to come out of the whole affair with basically nothing is ridiculous.
It's not getting a lot of focus in the thread but I thought Bettany was fantastic in this. He wasn't in it much but he chewed up each scene he was in. The creepy stare he would give characters was great.
Yeah that shit sucked. The film seemed to be trying to make a point about how Han was such a "bad guy", but as soon as the marauders told they're sob story Han was like "omg we have to help!" It would've alleviated some of my pain if at the end of the climax he opened his jacket to Chewie and it was lined with magic juice.
Film was not bad, but definitely weak in the story department and you couldn't feel the stakes (but this is a problem with most prequel films when you know the outcomes of the main characters). 7/10 I would say. I definitely enjoyed Rogue One much more. There was a lot of stake and you could feel the OT-ness of it with the rebellion. This film is definitely a much different take on Star Wars. No force powers, no Empire vs Rebellion. Just some squandering outlaw trying to keep going. For some this isn't going to be Star Wars for them. Feels a bit like Shadows of the Empire, with Dash Rendar.
Also... wanted to add, the music wasn't that good for once. It felt overly adventure like, rather than the epic grandness of Star Wars. But of course it fits with the style and tone of the movie. It's a change that I and many others won't be used to. Maybe this film will grow on me later.
Also... wanted to add, the music wasn't that good for once. It felt overly adventure like, rather than the epic grandness of Star Wars. But of course it fits with the style and tone of the movie. It's a change that I and many others won't be used to. Maybe this film will grow on me later.
Just got back from my showing - I thought it was fantastic.
First thing I want to mention is the crowd I was with was really into the movie in the same way the crowds were when I saw TFA and TLJ (which was surprising to me). Lots of laughter, lots of cheering during big moments, and quite a bit of applause at the end. This really added to the experience, for me.
What I liked:
Can't wait!
First thing I want to mention is the crowd I was with was really into the movie in the same way the crowds were when I saw TFA and TLJ (which was surprising to me). Lots of laughter, lots of cheering during big moments, and quite a bit of applause at the end. This really added to the experience, for me.
What I liked:
- Alden's performance, overall. I find the guy really charismatic and just enjoyed every scene he was in. He had great chemistry with Chewie.
- Chewie
- Paul Bettany is a gem - really enjoyed him as Vos.
- L3
- Lando
- L3 and Lando
- The entire Kessel sequence (including the Kessel Run itself) - very exciting with lots of cool visuals (star destroyer, huge monster, gravity well, etc.).
- The train heist was terrific - probably the standout set piece
- Darth Maul's appearance
- Complete absence of the Force (no mention or use)
- A fair amount of the dialogue was bland and wasn't helped by bland delivery on the part of some of the actors/actresses.
- So many new characters and the film wasn't able to effectively get you invested in most of them by the end.
- Alden didn't really remind me of the Han Solo we know.
Can't wait!