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Solo: A Star Wars Story |OT| Ron Shot Last [SPOILERS]
- Thread starter MMarston
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That is something the movie should have shown but failed to do so.
I loved how they knew they had to do a 'Falcon confronts big space monster' scene and just said fuck it and went full C'thulu.
It's hilarious that they introduce themselves as a group dedicated to fighting mercenaries and crime syndicates......but as soon as they get the money they start talking about a rebellion. Was it really necessary to have Han be the unwitting catalyst for the entire Original Trilogy? Couldn't they have just made a movie that does not directly tie in to the OT?
That's who Han Solo is though. He puts on the facade of being a "bad guy" but in truth always was a good guy. It's the stereotypical tough guy act. He does care about people and he does do the right thing to help people, as we saw at the end of A New Hope.
Plus, this is still a younger and more naive Han. When he decided to help, he had his girl by his side. He still had an overall positive outlook. It's the events of this film that set him down the path to become more negative and less trusting.
I loved that too, I'm a sucker for any kind of planet sized creature, that was rad
Just getting back from the gym membership.
I hated just about everything story related. Han was fine. Lando wad wad. Woody was good.
I hated just about everything story related. Han was fine. Lando wad wad. Woody was good.
I would like to see the movie about the path because good guy Han is not that interesting to me.
If he was always a good guy, then Han has basically no story or emotional arc. He's just a good guy that pretends to be bad sometimes.
I would much prefer to think of him as someone who becomes a better and more noble person over the course of EP4-6.
That's not really the case.
The Rebel Alliance is called just that because it's an alliance of many different Rebel cells. Han ends up helping one of the many cells but he's not the catalyst that helps create the entire Rebel Alliance.
Went in with fairly moderate expectations and came out having thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Predictable, but really well done. Loved Han and Lando, but thought Qi'ra was kind of boring until the Maul surprise (which I loved). I hope they make another one, because I think they could go some interesting places.
But really I just hope that we see a Yojimbo/Sanjuro style Obi-Wan movie next.
But really I just hope that we see a Yojimbo/Sanjuro style Obi-Wan movie next.
I don't watch GoT so I really had no reference point but I also thought she was good in this movie. She fit the part well and had adequate chemistry with Han.
He starts a little more naive, more trusting of people and good hearted, becomes cynical and jaded after being betrayed by and killing his mentor and being abandoned by the girl he did everything or, he becomes an outlaw smuggler on the run who doesn't associate himself with causes and only interested in money, then years later he learns to trust people again, love Leia, join the Rebellions inspired in part by the nativity and optimism of Luke. That's his arc.
I guess from the trailers that she was going to end up the Falcon computer. That's the whole thing in Empire "talk to the Falcon" etc
Long story. Maul has multiple arcs throughout The Clone Wars and Rebels (the animated shows). He wasn't permanently dead after the Phantom Menace.
he did shoot first tho... and the inevitable sequel(s) will probably be much more gunslinger Han fighting his true heart of gold
it's to be noted Maul was finally killed (again) by Obi-Wan on Tatooine a couple years prior to ANH. It's one of the best sequences in Star Wars Rebels
I never saw the shows, my mind is blown. I didn't realize it was possible to survive getting cut in half.
I liked how they tied that in, makes the Falcon seem more of a character now that I know L3 is in there and it doesn't come off feeling like an asspull since we knew the Falcon already had an AI of sorts.
Man, I kinda feel dumb for not guessing the Darth Maul thing sooner, since what other shadowy character was a crime syndicate going to be revealed to be reporting to? Looking back I think there were some deliberate, albeit minor hints too.
Maul survived being cut in half in TPM because of the dark side. He came back during the Clone Wars to lead a crime syndicate, briefly conquered Mandalore, and has been scheming to get back at Sheev for ages. He gets killed by Obi-Wan In Rebels.
Yep - good point. It was a nice way to bring his whole story full-circle with Obi-Wan.
Also - typo in my original post - meant to say that he "wasn't" permanently dead after the Phantom Menace.
One thing to note is I think this is going to end up causing confusion with the mainstream audience. As soon as we walked out, I already heard people saying this movie had to take place before Episode 1, which obviously makes no sense if you even take one moment to think about the timing. I don't think some people picked up on the metal legs, like they were supposed to.
He could have just told people who Palpatine/Sidious was
That's really all he had to do
The film established they were best friends and obviously cared for each other a lot.
Seems like he will basically have to be in the Obi Wan movie in that case.
A strong connection to the Force and using the Dark Side to keep him alive, and presumably alien physiology. At some point he is grafted onto pretty much literal garbage.
I second this. I wasn't on the verge of tears or anything but it worked well enough.
Yeah it's dumb but it ended up being a fantastic call since his story arcs in Clone Wars and Rebels were great. The show completely salvages Maul as a character.
The thing is, the way it happens in Rebels makes it kind of impossible, unless they actually straight up retell the scene.
Prior to their final confrontation, Maul and Obi-Wan hadn't encountered each other since the Clone Wars. Maul actually spent years of his life trying to track him down.
going into the movie, I knew I was going to want a Lando movie.
What I didn't think I was going to want was a Solo sequel... but here we are
What I didn't think I was going to want was a Solo sequel... but here we are
There's no way this gets a sequel, right? Not with it being on track to being the first ever post Disney Star Wars to make less than a billion, and by a really significant margin
It's the only time anyone in the entire series has had any kind of emotional attachment to a droid. It's really weird just in that sense.
We don't really see his affection for her until she gets bashed to shit. He smack talks with her a bit, and she asserts to Kira that he loves her but we mostly take that to be her weird ego inferring something that isn't there.
Turns out the dumb cartoons that don't count and will be totally ignored in the movies do count, like a lot.
I very much doubt this gets a sequel. Maybe a Lando spin-off, and I'm even somewhat doubtful of that.
Yep. Unlike the Marvel showss, Disney seems A-OK with Star Wars crossing over.
Luke clearly has an emotional attachment to R2.
If he saw R2 ripped in half and permanently destroyed, he'd probably cry.
Same. Somehow, this film pushed all the right buttons for me that I actually want to see a continuation of these particular incarnations of Han and Chewie as well as more of Qi'ra and Maul. Go figure.
Lmao yeah I remember people saying they would be ignored. The floodgates are officially open now. I guess I have to check out rebels.
As someone who has really enjoyed all the new Star Wars films so far, I keep waiting for the dreaded day that they come out with one that I consider a real stinker. I know at some point it must happen. And with all the drama around the production of this movie I was a little worried it would be a mess. But I loved it.
Granted, I don't think it's an amazing or groundbreaking movie. But it is an engaging heist action movie that was more fun and had better action than most summer blockbusters out there. I have a really soft spot for simple, straightforward stories, and this totally delivered on that. I loved that they had a plot and followed that through from beginning to end. It wasn't full of twists and turns and cutaways to find out what other people are doing. This is Han's story and it works.
I know some people will be put off by all the references, but I feel like most of them were obscure enough that they gave texture to the world and added to the Star Wars feel while not hitting the audience over the head with basic universe stuff that the characters would have no realistic reason for talking about. Little things like Bossk, Aurra Sing, Teras Kasi... fun stuff rather than just "oh, a new type of TIE Fighter."
L3 was fantastic. Lando didn't steal the show nearly as much as I thought he would, but he certainly had his moments. Loved the little interactions between Han and Chewie. I guess my biggest complaint would be that Qi'Ra really lacks any kind of strong characterization. I didn't really get a feel for who she was. At the end there when she's talking to Maul, I got a little lost wondering if she's being the good guy by throwing the syndicate off the trail of Han, or if she's truly what Beckett said and just trying to wheel and deal to survive at all costs.
Honestly if we had never heard of all the stuff on set, and the change of directors, I don't think I would have noticed by just watching the movie. It felt more coherent than most movies I see these days.
Granted, I don't think it's an amazing or groundbreaking movie. But it is an engaging heist action movie that was more fun and had better action than most summer blockbusters out there. I have a really soft spot for simple, straightforward stories, and this totally delivered on that. I loved that they had a plot and followed that through from beginning to end. It wasn't full of twists and turns and cutaways to find out what other people are doing. This is Han's story and it works.
I know some people will be put off by all the references, but I feel like most of them were obscure enough that they gave texture to the world and added to the Star Wars feel while not hitting the audience over the head with basic universe stuff that the characters would have no realistic reason for talking about. Little things like Bossk, Aurra Sing, Teras Kasi... fun stuff rather than just "oh, a new type of TIE Fighter."
L3 was fantastic. Lando didn't steal the show nearly as much as I thought he would, but he certainly had his moments. Loved the little interactions between Han and Chewie. I guess my biggest complaint would be that Qi'Ra really lacks any kind of strong characterization. I didn't really get a feel for who she was. At the end there when she's talking to Maul, I got a little lost wondering if she's being the good guy by throwing the syndicate off the trail of Han, or if she's truly what Beckett said and just trying to wheel and deal to survive at all costs.
Honestly if we had never heard of all the stuff on set, and the change of directors, I don't think I would have noticed by just watching the movie. It felt more coherent than most movies I see these days.