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Solo: A Star Wars Story |OT| Ron Shot Last [SPOILERS]

Star-Lord

Star-Lord

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any idea what that one scene George lucas directed in this film?

SELIG said:
yeah i caught that, you mean at the end right? I saw one of the "Two-Tubes" brothers. one of these guys:
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I think the implication was that Enfys Nest's marauders eventually end up on the same line of rebellion as Saw's Partisans. Pretty cool inclusion
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Ya I thought the same thing neat that its connected to rogue one as well.
 
CloseTalker

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dreamcast said:
But it's consider canon, so it does.
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Yeah, I'm just saying that the Boba Fett movie could be respecting Clone Wars canon, but most everyone that sees the movie won't know or care, since they don't have context. Those people don't know anything about Boba Fett, so anything in the movie will be inherently new to them.

It's not a bad thing, I actually think it's a good thing. I'm just pointing out that any need for the Fett movie to adhere to Clone Wars lore won't matter to almost anyone who sees the movie.
 
SELIG

SELIG

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Oct 27, 2017
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Star-Lord said:
Any idea what that one scene George lucas directed in this film?
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he was on set for the lando's closet scene, and gave one note about how, when Han and Qi'ra are having their convo, at one point Han takes a cape on a hanger out of Qi'ra's hand and originally he hung it back on the rack. George's note was that Han wouldn't do that. In the movie he instead just tosses it over his shoulder and it falls to the floor.
 
OnPorpoise

OnPorpoise

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Oct 25, 2017
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dreamcast said:
lol .. I have to disagree with this statement. Knowing what he came from, how he was betrayed, all of it rounds his character out well. He's an outlaw good guy. It helps you understand why he left in ANH only to return and help Luke destroy the Death Star. And that history also explains why he ultimately split from Leia and he and Chewie continued in space into old age. Also explains the disconnected relationship he has with his son. I think it fleshed out his character and improved the other films the character is in for that added depth.
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I think there are a lot of obvious callbacks that this film wants people to think are actually clever setups for payoffs in future films, but they largely strip away any tension.

Things like Han supporting the Rebellion to the point of risking his life in this film actually removes tension and character growth from the later films. It's like finding out he was already frozen in carbonite once before, it deflates the impact of what comes later.

I'd argue Han ends the movie more optimistic and victorious than betrayed and disillusioned, there isn't much setup for the moral ambiguity and begrudging heroics he'll display by the time New Hope rolls around, and it makes things less interesting than they could have been.
 
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SELIG

SELIG

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Oct 27, 2017
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CloseTalker said:
Yeah, I'm just saying that the Boba Fett movie could be respecting Clone Wars canon, but most everyone that sees the movie won't know or care, since they don't have context. Those people don't know anything about Boba Fett, so anything in the movie will be inherently new to them.

It's not a bad thing, I actually think it's a good thing. I'm just pointing out that any need for the Fett movie to adhere to Clone Wars lore won't matter to almost anyone who sees the movie.
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Fett should probably land somewhere in the between Sith and up to ESB, that's a lot of ground open for exploration. I don't really want a Fett movie, but I'm going to find a way to get on board at some point. It really ought to include several bounty hunters, and it'd be great imo if it felt like the clone wars episodes when asajj ventress was working with him and his crew. There's huge potential for a crossover with mando stuff and with maul.
 
Orb

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nobunny said:
I think there are a lot of obvious callbacks that this film wants people to think are actually clever setups for payoffs in future films, but they largely strip away any tension.

Things like Han supporting the Rebellion to the point of risking his life in this film actually removes tension and character growth from the later films. It's like finding out he already frozen in carbonite once before, it deflates the impact of what comes later.

I'd argue Han ends the movie more optimistic and victorious than betrayed and disillusioned, there isn't much setup for the moral ambiguity and begrudging heroics he'll display by the time New Hope rolls around, and it makes things less interesting than they could have been.
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The OT and TFA already showed us that Han is the good guy who really doesn't want to be seen as the good guy. This movie reinforces that perfectly. I don't think it's fair to assume that him coming back for Luke at the end of ANH is the first time he's ever done a good deed.
 
Real Hero

Real Hero

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nobunny said:
I think there are a lot of obvious callbacks that this film wants people to think are actually clever setups for payoffs in future films, but they largely strip away any tension.

Things like Han supporting the Rebellion to the point of risking his life in this film actually removes tension and character growth from the later films. It's like finding out he already frozen in carbonite once before, it deflates the impact of what comes later.

I'd argue Han ends the movie more optimistic and victorious than betrayed and disillusioned, there isn't much setup for the moral ambiguity and begrudging heroics he'll display by the time New Hope rolls around, and it makes things less interesting than they could have been.
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yep, it is exactly what I feared the film would do.
 
BDS

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Nobunny said:
Things like Han supporting the Rebellion to the point of risking his life in this film actually removes tension and character growth from the later films.
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He isn't "supporting the Rebellion" though, he's working with Enfys Nest's gang to stop Vos who is their mutual enemy so that Qi'ra can be free. He's being self-serving. It's only after defeating Vos that Enfys informs Han she is part of the Rebellion and asks him to join and he refuses.
 
Miamiwesker

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Nobunny said:
I think there are a lot of obvious callbacks that this film wants people to think are actually clever setups for payoffs in future films, but they largely strip away any tension.

Things like Han supporting the Rebellion to the point of risking his life in this film actually removes tension and character growth from the later films. It's like finding out he already frozen in carbonite once before, it deflates the impact of what comes later.

I'd argue Han ends the movie more optimistic and victorious than betrayed and disillusioned, there isn't much setup for the moral ambiguity and begrudging heroics he'll display by the time New Hope rolls around, and it makes things less interesting than they could have been.
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I agree with the last paragraph and I hope there is another movie where he really goes through some tough stuff. We know he betrays Lando at some point. Qi'ra seems to be out of his life so something happens to her. Working for Jabba must lead to some shitty bad guy jobs. So if they do it where this movie shows us yeah he is the smuggler with the heart of gold but then another movie shows us becoming jaded then it will work with ANH having him come full circle.
 
Guybrush Threewood

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Oct 25, 2017
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I did a ranking last night and can't yet put it higher than any of the OT or VII, VIII, or Rogue One. We'll see. Probably end up going again sometime in the next week.

Note this is not to be confused with not liking the movie! Actually, I really liked it, but, goes to show that I think everything that's come out from post-Disney has been great. It's been fun to go through all of this with my kids and have them loving it, too (I'm almost 40, they're in elementary school).
 
Regulus Tera

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I honestly don't have any interest in watching this movie at all. Is there a post somewhere that summarises the plot points?
 
AgentOtaku

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just saw it and and to best summarize:

Felt like an overwritten film (which makes sense considering how long Kasden has wanted to do it) thats gorgeous to look at

Seriously, Ron Howard and Bradford Young shot the shit out of this.
 
borghe

borghe

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Oct 27, 2017
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BDS said:
He isn't "supporting the Rebellion" though, he's working with Enfys Nest's gang to stop Vos who is their mutual enemy so that Qi'ra can be free. He's being self-serving. It's only after defeating Vos that Enfys informs Han she is part of the Rebellion and asks him to join and he refuses.
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Yeah these complaints kind of piss me off. He didn't help the rebellion. His goal was to get Qi'ra out and he aligned himself with maurauders who hated Vos. They didn't turn into the good guys/Rebels until after all of that where Han turned them down.
 
borghe

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bigwinnerx said:
I did a ranking last night and can't yet put it higher than any of the OT or VII, VIII, or Rogue One. We'll see. Probably end up going again sometime in the next week.

Note this is not to be confused with not liking the movie! Actually, I really liked it, but, goes to show that I think everything that's come out from post-Disney has been great. It's been fun to go through all of this with my kids and have them loving it, too (I'm almost 40, they're in elementary school).
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I don't think there's anything wrong with this.. and while I think Rogue One was a better movie I'd still put this one spot higher just for being a lot more fun than Rogue One.

It's a side story. By definition it's going to be hard to top a story from the mainline series no matter what franchise.

I also squeal with glee at all the love the VCX-100 gets in these side stories. :D The shot in Rogue One and Han claiming that's what model his ship is.
 

Revenus Victor

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Nov 11, 2017
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Can someone explain Maul to me. The timeline seems weird as fuck...unless it's implied that he survived TPM, which... what? How?
 
Pilgrimzero

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Oct 27, 2017
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Liked it.

No mention of Chewies life debt.

Teras Kasi call out!

How does Mauls appearance jive with the Rebels show? And man people gasped in the audience at his reveal.
 
Osahi

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Revenus Victor said:
Can someone explain Maul to me. The timeline seems weird as fuck...unless it's implied that he survived TPM, which... what? How?
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He survived TPM yes. He is a character in the Clone Wars tv show, where we learn he survived being cut in half due to the dark side of the Force and alien fysiology. He gets robotlegs (like you see in Solo) and rises up in the crime world.

He also plays a role in the final Rebels season, where he confronts Obi Wan again. Haven't seen that one yet though.
 
a916

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Did anyone feel the movie was like super dark? I mean like visually... the opening scene was so dark it was hard to make out, especially the Proxima scenes and a lot of the mining scenes.
 
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