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nekomix

Member
Oct 30, 2017
472
This series man... It makes me feel so uncomfortable and I really think Gilead is some freaky religious assholes' wet dream. The way it's filmed, the colours used, it really makes it feel like a prison and a future I don't want even if humanity is on the brink of destruction. Ann Dowd and Yvonne Strahovski are amazing since the first episode, I really want to bash their characters' head on a wall and that last episode, damn...
 

J_Viper

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,707
That ending, hell the whole episode was fucking WILD

Netflix should be embarrassed at not being able to produce a series of this quality
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
I juuuuuust realized that the show's logo is a Canada joke. (alongside the handmaid reference of course) It's the inverted Canadian flag.
 

Armored Ape

Member
Oct 25, 2017
337
Cambridge Ma
Man. I just watched the latest episode of WestWorld and it sure makes this show look all the worse in comparison.

It's a crime against humanity that WestWorld season 2 OT is only at page 62 when trash like The Hand Maiden's Tale Season 2's OT is at 4 pages.

This season of WE is vastly superior to THT in every way. The writing, the substance of the show, the performances, the cinemtography and editing, it all makes The Handmaiden's Tale look like cheap, tawdry junk.

The newest episodes of both shows are a stark contrast.

It wouldn't bother me that this show is popular if WestWorld was getting way more discussion, there's certainly a lot more to talk about.

Seriously, if you feel THT is lacking this season watch WW. It's a revelation.
 

Nerdyone

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,723
Man. I just watched the latest episode of WestWorld and it sure makes this show look all the worse in comparison.

It's a crime against humanity that WestWorld season 2 OT is only at page 62 when trash like The Hand Maiden's Tale Season 2's OT is at 4 pages.

This season of WE is vastly superior to THT in every way. The writing, the substance of the show, the performances, the cinemtography and editing, it all makes The Handmaiden's Tale look like cheap, tawdry junk.

The newest episodes of both shows are a stark contrast.

It wouldn't bother me that this show is popular if WestWorld was getting way more discussion, there's certainly a lot more to talk about.

Seriously, if you feel THT is lacking this season watch WW. It's a revelation.
Why are you comparing the two shows?
 

Aiii

何これ
Member
Oct 24, 2017
8,178
I deal with enough system wars posts on a daily basis to not want to bother with dumb TV show stanning.

So yeh, great parody post Armored Ape but that is quite enough.

You have made the point, from here on this thread is about Handmaid's and not Westworld y'all.
 

Chumley

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,651
The rebellion has to start by the end of this season. I know some shit finally went down last week but they need to pick up the pace, the show can't sustain constant misery and torture any more than it already has.
 

mujun

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,851
Man. I just watched the latest episode of WestWorld and it sure makes this show look all the worse in comparison.

It's a crime against humanity that WestWorld season 2 OT is only at page 62 when trash like The Hand Maiden's Tale Season 2's OT is at 4 pages.

This season of WE is vastly superior to THT in every way. The writing, the substance of the show, the performances, the cinemtography and editing, it all makes The Handmaiden's Tale look like cheap, tawdry junk.

The newest episodes of both shows are a stark contrast.

It wouldn't bother me that this show is popular if WestWorld was getting way more discussion, there's certainly a lot more to talk about.

Seriously, if you feel THT is lacking this season watch WW. It's a revelation.

Sarcasm detector is ringing. I love Westworld but it is meandering at the moment if you ask me. I'm worried it's going down the Lost path.
 

LogicAirForce

Member
Oct 25, 2017
936
I got Hulu last week and marathoned this show over 2 days. I'm totally hooked and kind of hate that I have to wait for new episodes lol. I've also placed a hold on the book from my local library but there are about 18 people ahead of me, so who knows how long it will be until I can read it. Can't wait till Wednesday :D
 

Jules

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Oct 27, 2017
86
I got Hulu last week and marathoned this show over 2 days. I'm totally hooked and kind of hate that I have to wait for new episodes lol. I've also placed a hold on the book from my local library but there are about 18 people ahead of me, so who knows how long it will be until I can read it. Can't wait till Wednesday :D

If your library participates in online lending, check out the Overdrive app. You can download to the kindle or other apps and read on any device! Sometimes the wait is shorter that way.
 

LogicAirForce

Member
Oct 25, 2017
936
If your library participates in online lending, check out the Overdrive app. You can download to the kindle or other apps and read on any device! Sometimes the wait is shorter that way.
I don't have a kindle but I do have an Ipod Touch. I'll have to see if that app will work on it. Thanks for the tip!
 

Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
Does anyone think Giliead will become an ethnostate similar to how the books were? That's been one of the ongoing criticisms leveled at the show. I know why they took this route. But really, Moira and Luke haven't done much in the series so far.

If they did decide to right the course, how would that be explained? I've never been sold on the idea that they couldn't do that in the first place, given the time we're living in now and the deplorable line of thinking that inhabits a considerable number of people among us. They introduced child brides earlier than I was expecting. I figured that would be introduced in the latter half of the show's run, to reflect the growing desperation of Gilead as its power was slipping.
 

SArcher

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Oct 26, 2017
2,669
So this latest episode confused me. They brought back some of the handmaids from the colonies but aren't they suffering from radiation poisoning?
 

Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
OH HELL NAA EDEN


Pretty sure they're getting desperate now
Will the show be revisiting the colonies at some point in the future? It just puzzles me that the writers have June recaptured so early in the series. When she escapes, they can't play that card again.

Also, what's up with all the speculation of Serena being redeemable down the line? If anything, she would be the main villain of June's story.
 

Acorn

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Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
Anyone else think everything but the flashbacks suck?

I don't give a shit about any of the current stuff, I wanna see how it happened.
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,237
Serena (Waterford) is apparently far more manipulative than I thought. Her husband is out of the way (for now) and she was ready to take over to a limited extent intending to get things back to normal, even to the point of knowing how to maneuverer that agent out of the way.

I'd like to think she's actually more than redeemable, and has always intended to undermine the regime after coming to regret her part in building it. That'd certainly be an interesting twist.
 

McMahon

Banned
May 24, 2018
1,603
Los Angeles
Anyone else think everything but the flashbacks suck?

I don't give a shit about any of the current stuff, I wanna see how it happened.
Generally the fall of civilization as we know it is indeed much more of an entertaining prospect than the post-survival period. Though in this case, the fact that the world is figuring out how to deal with this situation in the US is more interesting to me.
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
Serena (Waterford) is apparently far more manipulative than I thought. Her husband is out of the way (for now) and she was ready to take over to a limited extent intending to get things back to normal, even to the point of knowing how to maneuverer that agent out of the way.

I'd like to think she's actually more than redeemable, and has always intended to undermine the regime after coming to regret her part in building it. That'd certainly be an interesting twist.
The problem is that Serena's baby lust is going to override her instincts elsewhere. It's what ultimately drives her complicity, she's the affluenza version of the crazy lady in the hospital in the S1 flashback. (A parallel that gets really obvious by the end of S1)
 

bye

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,418
Phoenix, AZ
Serena (Waterford) is apparently far more manipulative than I thought. Her husband is out of the way (for now) and she was ready to take over to a limited extent intending to get things back to normal, even to the point of knowing how to maneuverer that agent out of the way.

I'd like to think she's actually more than redeemable, and has always intended to undermine the regime after coming to regret her part in building it. That'd certainly be an interesting twist.

It's really hard to believe that given how upset she was at June asking to see her daughter.
 

Acorn

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Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
Generally the fall of civilization as we know it is indeed much more of an entertaining prospect than the post-survival period. Though in this case, the fact that the world is figuring out how to deal with this situation in the US is more interesting to me.
Fair point, I'm just struggling to care about any characters current plight.
 

RatskyWatsky

Are we human or are we dancer?
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Oct 25, 2017
14,931
That was a great episode. Serena Joy is savvy as heck which is both impressive and terrifying.
 

Jules

Member
Oct 27, 2017
86
That was a great episode. Serena Joy is savvy as heck which is both impressive and terrifying.

I agree! I'm not at all surprised she asked June for help. In fact, even though I can't stand Serena, that was a smart move. She's giving her just enough to keep her close, without giving her what she really wants. June flipping through the pages and then deciding on a pen seemed very symbolic to me. However, I was worried that Serena was going to find something in the office that would out June and Commander Waterford's interludes!
 

Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
So now that Emily and Janine are back in Boston, what roles will they play going forward? Or more to the point, how will they balance out June's character on a themetic level? I assume that June aligns best with the shrewd, intellectual operator. So where would that leave Emily and Janine? Emily did kill a guardian and an imprisoned wife. And short of a few lucid moments, Janine has always been broken down mentally. I enjoyed their return and wonder what this means going forward.
 

gofreak

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Oct 26, 2017
7,734
There seemed to be a bit of continuity weirdness between the end of episode 7, and the opening funerals in episode 8. 30-odd handmaids were killed? But in the scene with the explosion, I thought it showed all the handmaid's running pretty clear of the explosion? Perhaps there were more elsewhere, but watching the two episodes back to back made me wonder if there was going to be some sub-plot about a secret execution of those handmaids after the explosion, to deal with their potential threat or something.

Anyways, a good two episodes. Nice parallel between the ending of the two episodes... the click of the explosion vs the click of the pen. Serena and June make for compellingly uneasy bedfellows.
 

Addi

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Oct 25, 2017
4,222
There seemed to be a bit of continuity weirdness between the end of episode 7, and the opening funerals in episode 8. 30-odd handmaids were killed? But in the scene with the explosion, I thought it showed all the handmaid's running pretty clear of the explosion? Perhaps there were more elsewhere, but watching the two episodes back to back made me wonder if there was going to be some sub-plot about a secret execution of those handmaids after the explosion, to deal with their potential threat or something.

Anyways, a good two episodes. Nice parallel between the ending of the two episodes... the click of the explosion vs the click of the pen. Serena and June make for compellingly uneasy bedfellows.

Watch the explosion again, there are handmaids inside on the second floor, some of them fly backwards and smash into the windows.
 

Crackhead_Bob

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
1,865
There seemed to be a bit of continuity weirdness between the end of episode 7, and the opening funerals in episode 8. 30-odd handmaids were killed? But in the scene with the explosion, I thought it showed all the handmaid's running pretty clear of the explosion? Perhaps there were more elsewhere, but watching the two episodes back to back made me wonder if there was going to be some sub-plot about a secret execution of those handmaids after the explosion, to deal with their potential threat or something.

Anyways, a good two episodes. Nice parallel between the ending of the two episodes... the click of the explosion vs the click of the pen. Serena and June make for compellingly uneasy bedfellows.

They've never actually executed any handmaids in the show. We've seen indoctrination, birthing, and funerals. It would be interesting what fucked up take they could introduce into the show.

It's good seeing Emily and Janine back in the crew, but I wish they could have explored more aspects of the colonies or gone into detail on how Emily could cause trouble there. It's weird that Gilead would allow her back in Boston after killing that guardian in the marketplace. Why would any commander willingly choose to be assigned to Emily with that in mind, never mind her exposure to radiation poisoning.

Any indication of other handmaids being upgraded by the writers to give more points of view for June to bounce off of?
 

gofreak

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Oct 26, 2017
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Watch the explosion again, there are handmaids inside on the second floor, some of them fly backwards and smash into the windows.

Ah! Thanks! I missed that first time around.

I'm curious what the hell happened in the colonies. Nukes?

In the book, one of the issues that helps accelerate the fall to Gilead is environmental pollution... specifically radioactive pollution/waste. Perhaps accidents like Chernobyl/Fukushima. The book was written just before Chernobyl happened, but Three Mile Island would have been pretty fresh in the memory. To modern eyes, the idea of widespread radioactive contamination from pollution or nuclear waste might seem a little more unlikely, but back then I think anxieties around nuclear power waste might have been a little more pronounced.

As far as the TV show goes, I know they modeled some of the design/prop work in the colonies on Fukushima cleanup processes.
 

Kirblar

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Oct 25, 2017
30,744
I remember reading something about nuclear weapons being self-destructed in order to prevent Gilead from gaining access to them but it could have been a fan theory.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The reason I ask is because the "keepers" are using protective gear that probably wouldn't protect them from radiation.

But thanks for the answers :).